Ulster Championship 2025

[flowerpot]

It was kicked into his chest.

[tonto1888]

Gough didn't have a great afternoon. Refs have an impossible task and are always going to make mistakes..but he had a few really poor ones. Ultimately though it's always too easy to blame the ref. Tyrone had the game in their hands in the closing stages and made some poor calls. Failing to pop the ball over the bar on their last two attacks was huge. Armagh on the other hand made all the right calls in those closing minutes and fair play to them.

But for all Tyrone didn't see it out and the issues on the kick out - where there is a lot of work to do - they came back admirably in the second half and a number of players stepped up. Among them McElhom, who came on and really impressed. Others still have much more to offer. I was wondering earlier where exactly Tyrone are. After watching that I'd say it's clearly an upward trajectory after two years of chaos and the potential is there to go much further. As such, plenty of positives in defeat, which certainly isn't something I'd have said after a 1 point Ulster semi final defeat in the old days

It was a cracking contest to watch too. Hopefully more of the same in the final and subsequent AI series.

Tyrone have been a mess for a while so hard to expect MOR to change things straight away. Positive signs though

They had a better league last year and had a similar performance in Ulster against a fancied team. I know no one likes to say a bad word about MOR but so far he's doing slightly worse than Dooher did last year

Not from Tyrone so don't really care what is said about him but to improve they need to give him time

[general_lee]

Thoroughly enjoyable victory, particularly for the sickening nature in which Tyronies got to watch their team come back and take the lead only to relinquish it to a second string Armagh side in the dying minutes.

I will concede that Tyrone probably should have had a free (for what I'm not quite sure) re the Raffetty incident.

[Rossfan]

Could those saying Gough had a bad game list all the wrong decisions?

[Stall the Bailer]

Tyrone no one to blame but themselves. Gough should have black carded armagh keeper but bottled it

Would like to see it again but he git the ball??

Doesnt matter. He either hit the ball and fouled it or threw himself on the ground to take out darragh. Either way its a black card and tyrone free

Or maybe it hit him in the chest and he never touched Darragh?

I'm not saying this is what happened. But it's a clearer explanation for what Gough saw than anything else.

No chance the replay showed he dived with both hands out and tripped Darragh

If not a black it should have been a free from where Rafferty touched the ball as it was a pass to him. Hard too see where the foul was in the last free, these couple of mistakes aside I thought Gough had a decent game.

It was a loose ball so he was entitled to go for it. He gets there first and the ball was off the ground. One of the few decisions I think Gough got correct today. I thought he had a terrible game.

This is wrong, there is nothing in rules about a loose ball. The Armagh player passed the ball towards Rafferty, he initially hesitated as he knew he couldn't touch it, but then saw Tyrone were through for goal if he didn't, he then went for it. The keeper can not touch the ball when played by their player. It was played from an Armagh player. No free was given for him touching it and then there was the black card shout as well

[Armagh18]

Could those saying Gough had a bad game list all the wrong decisions?

The steps. f**k me let the game go abit. Allow abit of contact. Enforce the mark rule.

[imtommygunn]

There was no black card shout...

RF surely the goalie diving on the ball like that was some kind of foul? Mcquillan's too long looked a bit iffy too.

The winning free was a very clear foul.

[BigGreenField]

It was a loose ball so he was entitled to go for it. He gets there first and the ball was off the ground. One of the few decisions I think Gough got correct today. I thought he had a terrible game.
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Is loose ball defined in the rules for the keeper to get it in his own half?

Tyrone didn't deserve to win because they didn't take their chances and allowed Armagh kickout to function to smoothly.

They do look like a team on an upward line, another couple of weeks with MOR and they could take a scalp  or two.

[rodney trotter]

Could those saying Gough had a bad game list all the wrong decisions?

The steps. f**k me let the game go abit. Allow abit of contact. Enforce the mark rule.

What would be the point of having the rule in place if not enforcing it? Murchan took a load of steps in All Ireland final in 2019 and wasn't blown.                                     

[Main Street]

That was a compelling match to watch. Had Armagh allowed Tyrone to overcome them it would have been the softest of surrenders, but fair play to them they were the team that had the end game.
Has Malachy watered down that (sometimes admirable) dark malicious intent in Tyrone to win at all costs by many means?

[SouthDublinBro]

Armagh have not been the best team in Ulster since 2008. It seems this might finally be their year.

[Truthsayer]

Gough didn't have a great afternoon. Refs have an impossible task and are always going to make mistakes..but he had a few really poor ones. Ultimately though it's always too easy to blame the ref. Tyrone had the game in their hands in the closing stages and made some poor calls. Failing to pop the ball over the bar on their last two attacks was huge. Armagh on the other hand made all the right calls in those closing minutes and fair play to them.

But for all Tyrone didn't see it out and the issues on the kick out - where there is a lot of work to do - they came back admirably in the second half and a number of players stepped up. Among them McElhom, who came on and really impressed. Others still have much more to offer. I was wondering earlier where exactly Tyrone are. After watching that I'd say it's clearly an upward trajectory after two years of chaos and the potential is there to go much further. As such, plenty of positives in defeat, which certainly isn't something I'd have said after a 1 point Ulster semi final defeat in the old days

It was a cracking contest to watch too. Hopefully more of the same in the final and subsequent AI series.

Tyrone have been a mess for a while so hard to expect MOR to change things straight away. Positive signs though

They had a better league last year and had a similar performance in Ulster against a fancied team. I know no one likes to say a bad word about MOR but so far he's doing slightly worse than Dooher did last year

You do know they played the All Ireland champions today? 🤔

[reddgnhand]

That was a compelling match to watch. Had Armagh allowed Tyrone to overcome them it would have been the softest of surrenders, but fair play to them they were the team that had the end game.
Has Malachy watered down that (sometimes admirable) dark malicious intent in Tyrone to win at all costs by many means?

Wise up Tyrone no different than anyone else.

[Truthsayer]

Memories of '05 Armagh celebrating Ulster win over the neighbours.. Tyrone still in the championship mix...

[Mario]

Gough didn't have a great afternoon. Refs have an impossible task and are always going to make mistakes..but he had a few really poor ones. Ultimately though it's always too easy to blame the ref. Tyrone had the game in their hands in the closing stages and made some poor calls. Failing to pop the ball over the bar on their last two attacks was huge. Armagh on the other hand made all the right calls in those closing minutes and fair play to them.

But for all Tyrone didn't see it out and the issues on the kick out - where there is a lot of work to do - they came back admirably in the second half and a number of players stepped up. Among them McElhom, who came on and really impressed. Others still have much more to offer. I was wondering earlier where exactly Tyrone are. After watching that I'd say it's clearly an upward trajectory after two years of chaos and the potential is there to go much further. As such, plenty of positives in defeat, which certainly isn't something I'd have said after a 1 point Ulster semi final defeat in the old days

It was a cracking contest to watch too. Hopefully more of the same in the final and subsequent AI series.

Tyrone have been a mess for a while so hard to expect MOR to change things straight away. Positive signs though

They had a better league last year and had a similar performance in Ulster against a fancied team. I know no one likes to say a bad word about MOR but so far he's doing slightly worse than Dooher did last year

You do know they played the All Ireland champions today? 🤔

Yeah with half their team missing. They played Donegal last year who turned out to be Ulster champions beating the soon to be AI champions in the final