Ulster Championship 2025

[statto]

Tyrone v Armagh then...Bookies have Tyrone slight favourites to win this game and the pundits are bigging up Tyrone saying they're back as contenders but how do they base this on one game v a very poor Cavan team. I know Armagh have had a fair few injuries lately but Armagh destroyed them in league and are All Ireland Champions yet Tyrone are fav's. Do bookies and pundits know more than me?. (TBF most people know more than me...lol) I'm just basing this on facts and results, I think Armagh will beat Tyrone TBH but the mighty Down/Donegal will await (more likely the mighty Donegal).

Not sure what they're judging off. Would expect Canavan to be back for us but even then Armagh are just to physical. Even their second string are bigger, taller, faster, just more athletic in general. Can't see us getting within 7 points of them

The new rules are tailor made for the bigger stronger sides. If Armagh don't win it would be a major surprise.
Tyrone were just ok against a very poor Cavan side. Didn't look that impressive tbh, albeit without Canavan.

With the panel Armagh have been boasting about for the last 2 years it should be straightforward win for them shouldn't it?

For real? Tyrone beat Cavan in a canter without coming out of 2nd gear. With Darragh likely back and Hampsey and Myler apparently close to full recovery, could give Armagh bother... especially with their best player Rian gone.. 

Huge risk for Tyrone to be relying on Hampsey and Meyler to come in and hit the ground running they have both missed a serious amount of football. While they can both make big impacts further down the line I would think this weekend would come too soon for them.

[Truthsayer]

Tyrone v Armagh then...Bookies have Tyrone slight favourites to win this game and the pundits are bigging up Tyrone saying they're back as contenders but how do they base this on one game v a very poor Cavan team. I know Armagh have had a fair few injuries lately but Armagh destroyed them in league and are All Ireland Champions yet Tyrone are fav's. Do bookies and pundits know more than me?. (TBF most people know more than me...lol) I'm just basing this on facts and results, I think Armagh will beat Tyrone TBH but the mighty Down/Donegal will await (more likely the mighty Donegal).

Not sure what they're judging off. Would expect Canavan to be back for us but even then Armagh are just to physical. Even their second string are bigger, taller, faster, just more athletic in general. Can't see us getting within 7 points of them

The new rules are tailor made for the bigger stronger sides. If Armagh don't win it would be a major surprise.
Tyrone were just ok against a very poor Cavan side. Didn't look that impressive tbh, albeit without Canavan.

With the panel Armagh have been boasting about for the last 2 years it should be straightforward win for them shouldn't it?

For real? Tyrone beat Cavan in a canter without coming out of 2nd gear. With Darragh likely back and Hampsey and Myler apparently close to full recovery, could give Armagh bother... especially with their best player Rian gone.. 

Huge risk for Tyrone to be relying on Hampsey and Meyler to come in and hit the ground running they have both missed a serious amount of football. While they can both make big impacts further down the line I would think this weekend would come too soon for them.

You could be right. I suppose what's happening at training tells the story..

[Wildweasel74]

Cavan were awful, hard use that as a benchmark.

[balladmaker]

Gone are the days when an Armagh v Tyrone game would have got a 50 page thread on it's own.  Changed times ... still, Armagh by 7 

[tbrick18]

Tyrone v Armagh then...Bookies have Tyrone slight favourites to win this game and the pundits are bigging up Tyrone saying they're back as contenders but how do they base this on one game v a very poor Cavan team. I know Armagh have had a fair few injuries lately but Armagh destroyed them in league and are All Ireland Champions yet Tyrone are fav's. Do bookies and pundits know more than me?. (TBF most people know more than me...lol) I'm just basing this on facts and results, I think Armagh will beat Tyrone TBH but the mighty Down/Donegal will await (more likely the mighty Donegal).

Not sure what they're judging off. Would expect Canavan to be back for us but even then Armagh are just to physical. Even their second string are bigger, taller, faster, just more athletic in general. Can't see us getting within 7 points of them

The new rules are tailor made for the bigger stronger sides. If Armagh don't win it would be a major surprise.
Tyrone were just ok against a very poor Cavan side. Didn't look that impressive tbh, albeit without Canavan.

With the panel Armagh have been boasting about for the last 2 years it should be straightforward win for them shouldn't it?

For real? Tyrone beat Cavan in a canter without coming out of 2nd gear. With Darragh likely back and Hampsey and Myler apparently close to full recovery, could give Armagh bother... especially with their best player Rian gone.. 

Yep.
Cavan actually cut Tyrone open a good few times in the first half but made stupid mistakes after doing the hard work.
At times, Cavan competed in MF and got a run at Tyrone - and when the game was done they actually started shooting in the 2nd half getting a few 2 pointers. They could have taken those same shots in the first half but were trying to get through for goals.

Tyrone up front were not that exciting. McCurry chipping over from unmarked positions or frees. Hardly a goal chance for them in the entire game - so for a game they were so dominant in, that was not a good sign.

Tyrone were by far the better side, but that has to be taken in the context of how poor Cavan actually were.

[ONeill]

Amazed that bookies have Tyrone favourites.

Their 7 points in the NFL was inflated because they met counties towards the end that weren't overly fussed.

Cavan did a Cavan in the SFC.

It's wouldn't surprise me if Armagh win this with a lot to spare. Tyrone are 1-2 years too early.

[twohands!!!]

Amazed that bookies have Tyrone favourites.

Their 7 points in the NFL was inflated because they met counties towards the end that weren't overly fussed.

Cavan did a Cavan in the SFC.

It's wouldn't surprise me if Armagh win this with a lot to spare. Tyrone are 1-2 years too early.

It's only narrow favourites but yeah I would have had Armagh favourites myself. I think the bookies might be putting a touch too much focus on the first half of the Antrim game.

Armagh are likely to be well rested anyway - just back from four nights away at Jobstown Estate last week.

[thewobbler]

Amazed that bookies have Tyrone favourites.

Their 7 points in the NFL was inflated because they met counties towards the end that weren't overly fussed.

Cavan did a Cavan in the SFC.

It's wouldn't surprise me if Armagh win this with a lot to spare. Tyrone are 1-2 years too early.

How can Tyrone be early? 11 or 12 of the team that played v Dublin to stay up, were on the field when winning the AI final 4 seasons ago.

Something isn't adding up there.

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Imho if Tyrone's first XV are all actually fit and well, then this game will go down to the wire. But as it's been about 3-4 years since a Tyrone player burst onto the scene with any distinction, I just wouldn't trust them to compete with Armagh, if a few men light.

[Truthsayer]

Tyrone v Armagh then...Bookies have Tyrone slight favourites to win this game and the pundits are bigging up Tyrone saying they're back as contenders but how do they base this on one game v a very poor Cavan team. I know Armagh have had a fair few injuries lately but Armagh destroyed them in league and are All Ireland Champions yet Tyrone are fav's. Do bookies and pundits know more than me?. (TBF most people know more than me...lol) I'm just basing this on facts and results, I think Armagh will beat Tyrone TBH but the mighty Down/Donegal will await (more likely the mighty Donegal).

Not sure what they're judging off. Would expect Canavan to be back for us but even then Armagh are just to physical. Even their second string are bigger, taller, faster, just more athletic in general. Can't see us getting within 7 points of them

The new rules are tailor made for the bigger stronger sides. If Armagh don't win it would be a major surprise.
Tyrone were just ok against a very poor Cavan side. Didn't look that impressive tbh, albeit without Canavan.

With the panel Armagh have been boasting about for the last 2 years it should be straightforward win for them shouldn't it?

For real? Tyrone beat Cavan in a canter without coming out of 2nd gear. With Darragh likely back and Hampsey and Myler apparently close to full recovery, could give Armagh bother... especially with their best player Rian gone.. 

Yep.
Cavan actually cut Tyrone open a good few times in the first half but made stupid mistakes after doing the hard work.
At times, Cavan competed in MF and got a run at Tyrone - and when the game was done they actually started shooting in the 2nd half getting a few 2 pointers. They could have taken those same shots in the first half but were trying to get through for goals.

Tyrone up front were not that exciting. McCurry chipping over from unmarked positions or frees. Hardly a goal chance for them in the entire game - so for a game they were so dominant in, that was not a good sign.

Tyrone were by far the better side, but that has to be taken in the context of how poor Cavan actually were.

Tyrone v Armagh then...Bookies have Tyrone slight favourites to win this game and the pundits are bigging up Tyrone saying they're back as contenders but how do they base this on one game v a very poor Cavan team. I know Armagh have had a fair few injuries lately but Armagh destroyed them in league and are All Ireland Champions yet Tyrone are fav's. Do bookies and pundits know more than me?. (TBF most people know more than me...lol) I'm just basing this on facts and results, I think Armagh will beat Tyrone TBH but the mighty Down/Donegal will await (more likely the mighty Donegal).

Not sure what they're judging off. Would expect Canavan to be back for us but even then Armagh are just to physical. Even their second string are bigger, taller, faster, just more athletic in general. Can't see us getting within 7 points of them

The new rules are tailor made for the bigger stronger sides. If Armagh don't win it would be a major surprise.
Tyrone were just ok against a very poor Cavan side. Didn't look that impressive tbh, albeit without Canavan.

With the panel Armagh have been boasting about for the last 2 years it should be straightforward win for them shouldn't it?

For real? Tyrone beat Cavan in a canter without coming out of 2nd gear. With Darragh likely back and Hampsey and Myler apparently close to full recovery, could give Armagh bother... especially with their best player Rian gone.. 

Yep.
Cavan actually cut Tyrone open a good few times in the first half but made stupid mistakes after doing the hard work.
At times, Cavan competed in MF and got a run at Tyrone - and when the game was done they actually started shooting in the 2nd half getting a few 2 pointers. They could have taken those same shots in the first half but were trying to get through for goals.

Tyrone up front were not that exciting. McCurry chipping over from unmarked positions or frees. Hardly a goal chance for them in the entire game - so for a game they were so dominant in, that was not a good sign.

Tyrone were by far the better side, but that has to be taken in the context of how poor Cavan actually were.

I was at the game.. it was that easy and that boring I went into the club in the second half for a coffee and watched 20 mins on the big screen. Cavan wouldn't have won if they'd been there to midnight.. Tyrone needed a goal to kill it off and duly got it easy peasy..

[Milltown Row2]

The bookies ain't stupid. The handicap in the Antrim game was 12 points, Armagh won by 11, they don't get too much wrong

If it wasn't for two pointers the draw is a good bet, but the two points generally makes a draw harder..

Tyrone by 2, a sending off, couple of black cards and two controversial calls on the new rules

[ONeill]

Amazed that bookies have Tyrone favourites.

Their 7 points in the NFL was inflated because they met counties towards the end that weren't overly fussed.

Cavan did a Cavan in the SFC.

It's wouldn't surprise me if Armagh win this with a lot to spare. Tyrone are 1-2 years too early.

How can Tyrone be early? 11 or 12 of the team that played v Dublin to stay up, were on the field when winning the AI final 4 seasons ago.

Something isn't adding up there.

The way I see it, a new manager, a new full back line, new wing forwards. All that takes time to bed in.
Armagh seem to have a clear goal this year of winning the Ulster title.
Tyrone will make a big statement soon, but I just don't see it against Armagh in Clones.

Anyone know our last championship win in Clones?

[Armagh18]

Amazed that bookies have Tyrone favourites.

Their 7 points in the NFL was inflated because they met counties towards the end that weren't overly fussed.

Cavan did a Cavan in the SFC.

It's wouldn't surprise me if Armagh win this with a lot to spare. Tyrone are 1-2 years too early.

How can Tyrone be early? 11 or 12 of the team that played v Dublin to stay up, were on the field when winning the AI final 4 seasons ago.

Something isn't adding up there.

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Imho if Tyrone's first XV are all actually fit and well, then this game will go down to the wire. But as it's been about 3-4 years since a Tyrone player burst onto the scene with any distinction, I just wouldn't trust them to compete with Armagh, if a few men light.

Think we're likely to be a few men light ourselves, Tyrone are obviously strong at midfield and if Crealey isn't back its a massive disadvantage.

All cute hoorism aside it's a 50/50 game.

[tyroneman]

Lot will depend on whether DC is fit enough to play. If he is still out then Armagh`s game to lose.

[An Watcher]

Sure we'll turn up against the all ireland champions n see how we get on.  Hopefully we'll still be in touch at ht.  Armagh only having 5 starters from their all ireland winning team definitely gives us a chance of being within 10.  Really looking forward to playing the big boys

[flowerpot]

Lot will depend on whether DC is fit enough to play. If he is still out then Armagh`s game to lose.

When does it become Tyrones to win?