Ulster Championship 2025

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David McKeown

It sounded like the sideline was kicked just before the hooter there when they showed it again on the Sunday game. Although that may be a speed of sound thing depending on where the microphones were.
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rodney trotter

Donegal still do a lot of slow build up play. They had a few chances to finish off Monaghan but were passing it around and not taking the shot on.

straightred

Quote from: David McKeown on April 20, 2025, 11:16:14 PMIt sounded like the sideline was kicked just before the hooter there when they showed it again on the Sunday game. Although that may be a speed of sound thing depending on where the microphones were.
Canavan spoke about the 2 point free that donegal got but the highlights didnt show it. The highlights should show the major incidents

Tony Baloney

Quote from: David McKeown on April 20, 2025, 11:16:14 PMIt sounded like the sideline was kicked just before the hooter there when they showed it again on the Sunday game. Although that may be a speed of sound thing depending on where the microphones were.
You could hear it a good few seconds before he kicked it but also took a few secs to be picked up on the closest mics

on the sideline

Quote from: thewobbler on April 20, 2025, 09:49:25 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 20, 2025, 09:43:14 AM
Quote from: screenexile on April 20, 2025, 02:03:03 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 19, 2025, 10:58:01 PMHow many clean catches in 40 plus kickouts?

I can't find stats but there were plenty of clean catches by McGurn and Murdock...

Are you saying the 10 yard chip out to an unmarked corner back is more skilful?? How many of those did we used to get?

I'd rather have a scrappy contest for 50/50 ball in midfield than the 10 yard chip!
Sure if you're a neutral. If you're supporting a team there's no way you'd rather 50/50 balls than guaranteed possession? Especially if the opposition is winning the kickouts constantly

If you subscribe to the belief that every time a team has a shot (a wide or a score) then their opponent should be permitted to gain unchallenged possession, then you're correct.

The real question though surrounds why anyone would subscribe to that belief.


Why would it be unchallenged? Without the option of passing back to the keeper, there's far more incentive to press hard on kickouts. This would still be the case without the unnecessary kickout arc.

JoG2

Quote from: on the sideline on April 21, 2025, 01:10:21 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 20, 2025, 09:49:25 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on April 20, 2025, 09:43:14 AM
Quote from: screenexile on April 20, 2025, 02:03:03 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 19, 2025, 10:58:01 PMHow many clean catches in 40 plus kickouts?

I can't find stats but there were plenty of clean catches by McGurn and Murdock...

Are you saying the 10 yard chip out to an unmarked corner back is more skilful?? How many of those did we used to get?

I'd rather have a scrappy contest for 50/50 ball in midfield than the 10 yard chip!
Sure if you're a neutral. If you're supporting a team there's no way you'd rather 50/50 balls than guaranteed possession? Especially if the opposition is winning the kickouts constantly

If you subscribe to the belief that every time a team has a shot (a wide or a score) then their opponent should be permitted to gain unchallenged possession, then you're correct.

The real question though surrounds why anyone would subscribe to that belief.


Why would it be unchallenged? Without the option of passing back to the keeper, there's far more incentive to press hard on kickouts. This would still be the case without the unnecessary kickout arc.

Exactly

Main Street

Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 21, 2025, 12:01:37 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on April 20, 2025, 11:16:14 PMIt sounded like the sideline was kicked just before the hooter there when they showed it again on the Sunday game. Although that may be a speed of sound thing depending on where the microphones were.
You could hear it a good few seconds before he kicked it but also took a few secs to be picked up on the closest mics
So you're saying that the hooter blew some 3 or 4 seconds before Ryan kicked the ball and on top of that it took 2 or 3 seconds for the hooter sound to travel to the microphone?

You're some hoot.
 

Main Street

Quote from: straightred on April 20, 2025, 11:46:57 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on April 20, 2025, 11:16:14 PMIt sounded like the sideline was kicked just before the hooter there when they showed it again on the Sunday game. Although that may be a speed of sound thing depending on where the microphones were.
Canavan spoke about the 2 point free that donegal got but the highlights didnt show it. The highlights should show the major incidents
There were too many games over the 2 codes to cover. And those hurling lads love their chit chat post game. There should be a Saturday night show to cover the Saturday games.

snoopdog

Quote from: Main Street on April 21, 2025, 07:34:20 AM
Quote from: straightred on April 20, 2025, 11:46:57 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on April 20, 2025, 11:16:14 PMIt sounded like the sideline was kicked just before the hooter there when they showed it again on the Sunday game. Although that may be a speed of sound thing depending on where the microphones were.
Canavan spoke about the 2 point free that donegal got but the highlights didnt show it. The highlights should show the major incidents
There were too many games over the 2 codes to cover. And those hurling lads love their chit chat post game. There should be a Saturday night show to cover the Saturday games.
The Sunday game is dreadful. They never showed or mentioned the black card in Down game. They just said it was a smash and grab. Lazy analysis.
As long as they spend plenty of time on the hurling though.

David McKeown

Quote from: Main Street on April 21, 2025, 07:23:47 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 21, 2025, 12:01:37 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on April 20, 2025, 11:16:14 PMIt sounded like the sideline was kicked just before the hooter there when they showed it again on the Sunday game. Although that may be a speed of sound thing depending on where the microphones were.
You could hear it a good few seconds before he kicked it but also took a few secs to be picked up on the closest mics
So you're saying that the hooter blew some 3 or 4 seconds before Ryan kicked the ball and on top of that it took 2 or 3 seconds for the hooter sound to travel to the microphone?

You're some hoot.
 

Watching on GAA+ it was hard to tell because it sounded like whatever primary microphone they were using for the game was very near a young girl and you could hear her asking questions which was distracting. The Sunday game audio definitely sounded like a kick before the hooter went. Hard to tell though there couldn't have been much in it.
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Tyrone v Armagh then...Bookies have Tyrone slight favourites to win this game and the pundits are bigging up Tyrone saying they're back as contenders but how do they base this on one game v a very poor Cavan team. I know Armagh have had a fair few injuries lately but Armagh destroyed them in league and are All Ireland Champions yet Tyrone are fav's. Do bookies and pundits know more than me?. (TBF most people know more than me...lol) I'm just basing this on facts and results, I think Armagh will beat Tyrone TBH but the mighty Down/Donegal will await (more likely the mighty Donegal).
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snoopdog

Are both semis in Clones so the good people  in the town  won't complain when the Ulster final is  over to croke pk for Donegal v Armagh.??
Up to Tyrone and or Down to blow that out of the water.

Tony Baloney

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Quote from: David McKeown on April 21, 2025, 09:43:16 AM
Quote from: Main Street on April 21, 2025, 07:23:47 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 21, 2025, 12:01:37 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on April 20, 2025, 11:16:14 PMIt sounded like the sideline was kicked just before the hooter there when they showed it again on the Sunday game. Although that may be a speed of sound thing depending on where the microphones were.
You could hear it a good few seconds before he kicked it but also took a few secs to be picked up on the closest mics
So you're saying that the hooter blew some 3 or 4 seconds before Ryan kicked the ball and on top of that it took 2 or 3 seconds for the hooter sound to travel to the microphone?

You're some hoot.
 

Watching on GAA+ it was hard to tell because it sounded like whatever primary microphone they were using for the game was very near a young girl and you could hear her asking questions which was distracting. The Sunday game audio definitely sounded like a kick before the hooter went. Hard to tell though there couldn't have been much in it.
What age are you lads?! Get your hearing aids adjusted - MR2 can help you. The hooter was clearly* going off before the ball crossed the sideline. I don't know what way the speakers are arranged but you could hear it in the background and then it got louder. There is a video on Twitter from the other side of the pitch which indicates the same. The Maor Uisce standing in the road didn't help him get the ball away.

*Could be an air horn in the crowd 😏

Milltown Row2

I'd love to help  ;) I can check for earwax too, GAA board rates
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J70

On the two point free Murphy scored when Langan and a Monaghan player (can't remember who) violated the three-up rule...

Haven't seen any of the highlights yet, and missed most of the half-time analysis of the live broadcast, but I do remember seeing a brief replay from behind the Monaghan goal  which showed Langan quickly turning back while the Monaghan player was a little further down the field ahead of him. Coldrick consulted with the linesman at the time before awarding the free. Did he give it to Donegal because Langan turned around more quickly and didn't go as far? It was mentioned as well at some point that there is a four metre grace allowed. Was Langan within that while the Monaghan player wasn't?