Ulster Championship 2025

[Applesisapples]

I was at the match, disappointing result, Armagh did not get the rub of the green, that said the second Donegal goal, failure to push up on Donegal sickouts in the first 20 and their own dire sickouts in that same period put them on the back foot. Some harsh calls from the ref undoubtedly but I'm not sure that it took the game out of Armagh's hands, I'm not neutral so difficult to assess. The row at the end was all down to the Donegal player goading. In Rugby the ref will cite the player causing the fracas. I'm not condoning in anyway what the Armagh bench did, but I imagine it was hard to take. Not much between the two but both need to improve to go further. What concerned me more than the players going at it was the number of Donegal fans on the pitch surrounding the majority of Armagh players who weren't involved it could have been nasty if one ejit hits a player. I love Donegal as a county and as a team, I was a big fan of McGuiness as a player it is disappointing to see this rancour.

So you're not condoning, just explaining and excusing? What about McQuillan acting the **** in Patton's face because they so gloriously turned over one of his kickouts? Presumably that was hard to take for the Donegal boys and maybe influenced their actions?

McQuillan wasn't alone in sledging going on throughout the match. You couldn't see it on TV but live both sides were at it. St Michael was giving Forker loads of verbals at the start, presumably reminding him of his short stay the last day. This is going on in all sports not just GAA. I watch a lotto Hurling and football and the idea that it is only Armagh is bullshit.

[Applesisapples]

I was at the match, disappointing result, Armagh did not get the rub of the green, that said the second Donegal goal, failure to push up on Donegal sickouts in the first 20 and their own dire sickouts in that same period put them on the back foot. Some harsh calls from the ref undoubtedly but I'm not sure that it took the game out of Armagh's hands, I'm not neutral so difficult to assess. The row at the end was all down to the Donegal player goading. In Rugby the ref will cite the player causing the fracas. I'm not condoning in anyway what the Armagh bench did, but I imagine it was hard to take. Not much between the two but both need to improve to go further. What concerned me more than the players going at it was the number of Donegal fans on the pitch surrounding the majority of Armagh players who weren't involved it could have been nasty if one ejit hits a player. I love Donegal as a county and as a team, I was a big fan of McGuiness as a player it is disappointing to see this rancour.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Are the Armagh lads that sensitive that they couldn't have enough restraint at the end of the game, not to go flying in all guns blazing? It comes across as poorly on them as it does on the Donegal lad who should have had more cop on. Disappointing in the context of it being a good game.

I am not a fan of the goading or screaming at opposition however Armagh does plenty of this at every tight game. For me its case of if you can give it you can take it. When Armagh does it the opposition does not start a mass brawl. Armagh have been at it now with Galway, Tyrone, Donegal. Its almost as if they are trying to show how hard they are. I have said it for a number of years that this hard man attitude has held Armagh back.

It's incredible that no one on here from Armagh seems to think responsibility should be taken for the violence we saw on Saturday. Again, justifying assaulting someone because of something verbal is utter madness.

I'm no fan of Armagh but the intensity of that game, players devastated by defeat you celebrate with your team-mates. Was inevitable he'd get thumped. To do that after the game was the utter madness. However the whole thing is being overcooked. No-one was injured wasn't that bad...

Common sense post

So we keep going until someone gets seriously injured ? Sounds about right for the gaa

If it had only been the players on the pitch, like you see in rugby it would have petered out, given the that Donegal fans were surrounding both teams, those that weren't involved that is where the danger was of someone getting seriously hurt.

[bennydorano]

How about a supporter puts the blame on their team for what happened. Ever comment on here is, it's out of line BUT!!!

Donegal boy shouldn't have done what he done. Armagh ones shouldn't have reacted the way they did. But he did and they did. It'll be dealt with and we will move on. Sin é

It's very clear there's little or no sympathy for McFadden Ferry bar from his own. He fucked around and found out, tighten him. There might be suspensions but there'll be few regrets imo - and 2 well motivated teams.

[Armagh18]

Seen a clip of Forker and McGuinness, looks to be the 2 of them are trying to split things up and Forker seems to be letting him know that McFadden Ferry said something he shouldn't have.

Anyway, move on, doubtful there will be bans unless theres proper footage that hasn't been released.

[mackers]

How about a supporter puts the blame on their team for what happened. Ever comment on here is, it's out of line BUT!!!

Donegal boy shouldn't have done what he done. Armagh ones shouldn't have reacted the way they did. But he did and they did. It'll be dealt with and we will move on. Sin é

It's very clear there's little or no sympathy for McFadden Ferry bar from his own. He fucked around and found out, tighten him. There might be suspensions but there'll be few regrets imo - and 2 well motivated teams.

There's definitely shades of 2005 around all of this. We won the Ulster title against Tyrone and properly over-celebrated a win after a match that had its fair share of spite and nastiness. It came back to bite us in the AI semi.  Will history repeat itself??

[J70]

How about a supporter puts the blame on their team for what happened. Ever comment on here is, it's out of line BUT!!!

Donegal boy shouldn't have done what he done. Armagh ones shouldn't have reacted the way they did. But he did and they did. It'll be dealt with and we will move on. Sin é

It's very clear there's little or no sympathy for McFadden Ferry bar from his own. He fucked around and found out, tighten him. There might be suspensions but there'll be few regrets imo - and 2 well motivated teams.

There's definitely shades of 2005 around all of this. We won the Ulster title against Tyrone and properly over-celebrated a win after a match that had its fair share of spite and nastiness. It came back to bite us in the AI semi.  Will history repeat itself??

If a tiny bit of extra spite and motivation matters, then maybe. But then I thought that could be the case on Saturday and they were still locked together at a near impasse. But in fairness so were Tyrone and Armagh in 2005. Tyrone just happened to be a point ahead when the whistle blew in the semi, just like us at the weekend.

[tiempo]

There's definitely shades of 2005 around all of this. We won the Ulster title against Tyrone and properly over-celebrated a win after a match that had its fair share of spite and nastiness. It came back to bite us in the AI semi.  Will history repeat itself??

Remember this well and thinking it would come back to bite

[Armamike]

How about a supporter puts the blame on their team for what happened. Ever comment on here is, it's out of line BUT!!!

Donegal boy shouldn't have done what he done. Armagh ones shouldn't have reacted the way they did. But he did and they did. It'll be dealt with and we will move on. Sin é

It's very clear there's little or no sympathy for McFadden Ferry bar from his own. He fucked around and found out, tighten him. There might be suspensions but there'll be few regrets imo - and 2 well motivated teams.

There's definitely shades of 2005 around all of this. We won the Ulster title against Tyrone and properly over-celebrated a win after a match that had its fair share of spite and nastiness. It came back to bite us in the AI semi.  Will history repeat itself??

All ifs and buts but Armagh had plenty of chances that day to win it but kicked too many wides.
If we meet Donegal again I'd expect us to be highly motivated and focused after this defeat.  But would also expect Donegal to be honed in on winning an AI. Would probably be another very tight one!

[Armamike]

How about a supporter puts the blame on their team for what happened. Ever comment on here is, it's out of line BUT!!!

Donegal boy shouldn't have done what he done. Armagh ones shouldn't have reacted the way they did. But he did and they did. It'll be dealt with and we will move on. Sin é

It's very clear there's little or no sympathy for McFadden Ferry bar from his own. He fucked around and found out, tighten him. There might be suspensions but there'll be few regrets imo - and 2 well motivated teams.

There's definitely shades of 2005 around all of this. We won the Ulster title against Tyrone and properly over-celebrated a win after a match that had its fair share of spite and nastiness. It came back to bite us in the AI semi.  Will history repeat itself??

If a tiny bit of extra spite and motivation matters, then maybe. But then I thought that could be the case on Saturday and they were still locked together at a near impasse. But in fairness so were Tyrone and Armagh in 2005. Tyrone just happened to be a point ahead when the whistle blew in the semi, just like us at the weekend.

That's about it.

[Rufus T Firefly]

How about a supporter puts the blame on their team for what happened. Ever comment on here is, it's out of line BUT!!!

Donegal boy shouldn't have done what he done. Armagh ones shouldn't have reacted the way they did. But he did and they did. It'll be dealt with and we will move on. Sin é

It's very clear there's little or no sympathy for McFadden Ferry bar from his own. He fucked around and found out, tighten him. There might be suspensions but there'll be few regrets imo - and 2 well motivated teams.

There's definitely shades of 2005 around all of this. We won the Ulster title against Tyrone and properly over-celebrated a win after a match that had its fair share of spite and nastiness. It came back to bite us in the AI semi.  Will history repeat itself??

All ifs and buts but Armagh had plenty of chances that day to win it but kicked too many wides.
If we meet Donegal again I'd expect us to be highly motivated and focused after this defeat.  But would also expect Donegal to be honed in on winning an AI. Would probably be another very tight one!

I don't believe 'over celebrating' the 2005 Ulster Final victory in anyway contributed to the semi-final loss. Armagh actually played their best game of 2005 against Tyrone in that match. Unfortunately the excellence of the overall team performance was undone at crucial stages by a few individual errors.

And for what it's worth, I don't believe the Ulster Final victory was over celebrated at all. 

[armaghniac]

I don't believe 'over celebrating' the 2005 Ulster Final victory in anyway contributed to the semi-final loss. Armagh actually played their best game of 2005 against Tyrone in that match. Unfortunately the excellence of the overall team performance was undone at crucial stages by a few individual errors.

And for what it's worth, I don't believe the Ulster Final victory was over celebrated at all.

I agree. While there was a perception that Tyrone had an advantage in the semi-final, the reality is that Tyrone probably should have won Ulster and we should have won the semi-final. There was nothing between the teams, it just happened that Tyrone were ahead at the whistle.
The corollary of this is that we do not have any advantage if we play Donegal again, we just have to cut down the errors.

[red hander]

How about a supporter puts the blame on their team for what happened. Ever comment on here is, it's out of line BUT!!!

Donegal boy shouldn't have done what he done. Armagh ones shouldn't have reacted the way they did. But he did and they did. It'll be dealt with and we will move on. Sin é

It's very clear there's little or no sympathy for McFadden Ferry bar from his own. He fucked around and found out, tighten him. There might be suspensions but there'll be few regrets imo - and 2 well motivated teams.

There's definitely shades of 2005 around all of this. We won the Ulster title against Tyrone and properly over-celebrated a win after a match that had its fair share of spite and nastiness. It came back to bite us in the AI semi.  Will history repeat itself??

All ifs and buts but Armagh had plenty of chances that day to win it but kicked too many wides.
If we meet Donegal again I'd expect us to be highly motivated and focused after this defeat.  But would also expect Donegal to be honed in on winning an AI. Would probably be another very tight one!

I don't believe 'over celebrating' the 2005 Ulster Final victory in anyway contributed to the semi-final loss. Armagh actually played their best game of 2005 against Tyrone in that match. Unfortunately the excellence of the overall team performance was undone at crucial stages by a few individual errors.

And for what it's worth, I don't believe the Ulster Final victory was over celebrated at all.

Might have had something to do with the other team being even more excellent, no?

[armaghniac]

How about a supporter puts the blame on their team for what happened. Ever comment on here is, it's out of line BUT!!!

Donegal boy shouldn't have done what he done. Armagh ones shouldn't have reacted the way they did. But he did and they did. It'll be dealt with and we will move on. Sin é

It's very clear there's little or no sympathy for McFadden Ferry bar from his own. He fucked around and found out, tighten him. There might be suspensions but there'll be few regrets imo - and 2 well motivated teams.

There's definitely shades of 2005 around all of this. We won the Ulster title against Tyrone and properly over-celebrated a win after a match that had its fair share of spite and nastiness. It came back to bite us in the AI semi.  Will history repeat itself??

All ifs and buts but Armagh had plenty of chances that day to win it but kicked too many wides.
If we meet Donegal again I'd expect us to be highly motivated and focused after this defeat.  But would also expect Donegal to be honed in on winning an AI. Would probably be another very tight one!

I don't believe 'over celebrating' the 2005 Ulster Final victory in anyway contributed to the semi-final loss. Armagh actually played their best game of 2005 against Tyrone in that match. Unfortunately the excellence of the overall team performance was undone at crucial stages by a few individual errors.

And for what it's worth, I don't believe the Ulster Final victory was over celebrated at all.

Might have had something to do with the other team being even more excellent, no?

No, because the other team were not more excellent.

[Rufus T Firefly]

How about a supporter puts the blame on their team for what happened. Ever comment on here is, it's out of line BUT!!!

Donegal boy shouldn't have done what he done. Armagh ones shouldn't have reacted the way they did. But he did and they did. It'll be dealt with and we will move on. Sin é

It's very clear there's little or no sympathy for McFadden Ferry bar from his own. He fucked around and found out, tighten him. There might be suspensions but there'll be few regrets imo - and 2 well motivated teams.

There's definitely shades of 2005 around all of this. We won the Ulster title against Tyrone and properly over-celebrated a win after a match that had its fair share of spite and nastiness. It came back to bite us in the AI semi.  Will history repeat itself??

All ifs and buts but Armagh had plenty of chances that day to win it but kicked too many wides.
If we meet Donegal again I'd expect us to be highly motivated and focused after this defeat.  But would also expect Donegal to be honed in on winning an AI. Would probably be another very tight one!

I don't believe 'over celebrating' the 2005 Ulster Final victory in anyway contributed to the semi-final loss. Armagh actually played their best game of 2005 against Tyrone in that match. Unfortunately the excellence of the overall team performance was undone at crucial stages by a few individual errors.

And for what it's worth, I don't believe the Ulster Final victory was over celebrated at all.

Might have had something to do with the other team being even more excellent, no?

The other team was excellent, young Red, no doubt - but the errors I'm thinking of were individual misjudgements, albeit probably brought about by the pressure of the situation. Unforced errors, as Dan Maskell used to say at Wimbledon.

[Armagh18]

I'd say Armagh will take something from the hurt of losing the other day and that of course will be a help however small if we were to meet Donegal again. However the biggest boost we'll get is that boys who didn't play Saturday will hopefully be back for a potential meeting down the line whereas Donegal were full out.