GPA exceptionalism

[DuffleKing]

Fun fact - hotels pubs restaurants chippys trains busses o'neills etc existed before the GPA

The GPA have paid for a report to justify funding and frame the GPA as indispensable

This is not an independent study, its advocacy economics/napkin maths 101 inflated by multipliers, assumptions, and the notion that every euro spent on a big match day somehow owes its existence solely to elite players

The GPA is sitting on the roof of a house built entirely by clubs and their leaders

The GPA has been strategically embedding itself, shifting from a "players' union" to an influential stakeholder inside GAA governance i.e. classic intuitional creep, its why they are so steadfast for integration, it creates holes and cracks for them to exploit and fill. Start as advocates, become embedded, shape policy, effectively co-govern: thats the vision

The GPAs latest pitch more money for elite amateurs is apparently about securing the future of Gaelic games for everyone - no harm Tom but thats an inverted pyramid of piffle

I won't be reading any of that as i'm not in the slightest but interested but if you don't think hotels, pubs, etc. don't benefit significantly from the IC season then you really shouldn't be in this conversation.

[tiempo]

The GPA was established in 1999, there is a downward trend in attendances in recent years, therefore hotels pubs etc must be less well off, I trust the GPA are owning this?

Should the players retain their grant funding, kit allowance, medical provision, mileage expenses and courses-training-advice via the GPA: yes

Should the GPA government grant be reviewed and increased to match inflation or more: yes

However, in my view the economic boost attributed to the IC game comes from the GAA as a whole, a product of the games themselves and the underpinning structures, and not any GPA intervention, they are a contrived sub-set being afforded too much influence

[Rossfan]

Rent-free.
Go out for a walk, the fresh air chill do you good.

[thewobbler]

Fun fact - hotels pubs restaurants chippys trains busses o'neills etc existed before the GPA

The GPA have paid for a report to justify funding and frame the GPA as indispensable

This is not an independent study, its advocacy economics/napkin maths 101 inflated by multipliers, assumptions, and the notion that every euro spent on a big match day somehow owes its existence solely to elite players

The GPA is sitting on the roof of a house built entirely by clubs and their leaders

The GPA has been strategically embedding itself, shifting from a "players' union" to an influential stakeholder inside GAA governance i.e. classic intuitional creep, its why they are so steadfast for integration, it creates holes and cracks for them to exploit and fill. Start as advocates, become embedded, shape policy, effectively co-govern: thats the vision

The GPAs latest pitch more money for elite amateurs is apparently about securing the future of Gaelic games for everyone - no harm Tom but thats an inverted pyramid of piffle

I won't be reading any of that as i'm not in the slightest but interested but if you don't think hotels, pubs, etc. don't benefit significantly from the IC season then you really shouldn't be in this conversation.

I'm drawn to argue here.

Do these businesses profit more because IC players choose the live the life of "indoctrinated slaves", or not?

I'm guessing their turnover (allowing for interest) is negligibly different to what they gained in 1995.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Fun fact - hotels pubs restaurants chippys trains busses o'neills etc existed before the GPA

The GPA have paid for a report to justify funding and frame the GPA as indispensable

This is not an independent study, its advocacy economics/napkin maths 101 inflated by multipliers, assumptions, and the notion that every euro spent on a big match day somehow owes its existence solely to elite players

The GPA is sitting on the roof of a house built entirely by clubs and their leaders

The GPA has been strategically embedding itself, shifting from a "players' union" to an influential stakeholder inside GAA governance i.e. classic intuitional creep, its why they are so steadfast for integration, it creates holes and cracks for them to exploit and fill. Start as advocates, become embedded, shape policy, effectively co-govern: thats the vision

The GPAs latest pitch more money for elite amateurs is apparently about securing the future of Gaelic games for everyone - no harm Tom but thats an inverted pyramid of piffle

I won't be reading any of that as i'm not in the slightest but interested but if you don't think hotels, pubs, etc. don't benefit significantly from the IC season then you really shouldn't be in this conversation.

Not to the tune of €600m though.

And your trip to Croke Park is just you spending money in Dublin versus at home. The GAA season simply doesn't generate €600m and the point is the GPA are deluded enough to think this bought report will open doors, let's talk magic beans

[Armagh18]

Ask the owners of the Clonliffe house or those pokey pubs in Clones if they benefit from intercounty football. Have spent a fecking fortune in them this last few years.

[tiempo]

Had the players and GPA built the stadiums, set the fixtures, printed the tickets, etc etc there might be a point

The GAA as a whole is worth billions to the Irish economy, underpinned at grassroots via club committees, without this you have nothing

https://www.shu.ac.uk/news/all-articles/latest-news/gaelic-games#:~:text=28%20November%202024-,New%20study%20finds%20economic%20and%20social%20value%20of%20Gaelic%20Games,society%20is%20almost%20%E2%82%AC3bn&text=Independent%20analysis%20of%20the%20economic,2.87%20billion%20to%20Irish%20society.

The GPA are not the IC game

London and New York contested the Junior final at Croke 2 weeks ago, these players aren't grant funded and it didn't stop them giving their all

[DuffleKing]

Glad I don't spend any time thinking about it - unlike some...

[befair]

I used to coach underage teams; our training ground was a council pitch, and our first job before every session was to lift the dog shite from around the goalposts. Perhaps the GPA would like to include it in their report

[tiempo]

Players from the four Munster counties 'marginalised' by the decision to introduce a seeded draw for the province's football championship in 2026 could escalate their opposition, GPA chief executive Tom Parsons has suggested.

Such is the strength of feeling among the groups that Parsons has refused to rule out withdrawal from the competition at this time. The counties are due to meet the provincial council to discuss the issue which sees Kerry and Cork kept apart for the 2026 draw, based on last season's league placings.

Considering Kerry cant get a ticket to the Munster hurling championship would Tom not be as well to put a sock in it and let Provincial councils run competitions as they see fit?

[Rossfan]

He's representing his members.
The 4 small Counties are pissed off with the MC.
I wonder did the other 3 Provinces put pressure on to stop Munster Finalists leap frogging higher League teams?

[Armagh18]

Players from the four Munster counties 'marginalised' by the decision to introduce a seeded draw for the province's football championship in 2026 could escalate their opposition, GPA chief executive Tom Parsons has suggested.

Such is the strength of feeling among the groups that Parsons has refused to rule out withdrawal from the competition at this time. The counties are due to meet the provincial council to discuss the issue which sees Kerry and Cork kept apart for the 2026 draw, based on last season's league placings.

Considering Kerry cant get a ticket to the Munster hurling championship would Tom not be as well to put a sock in it and let Provincial councils run competitions as they see fit?

Doubt anyone would notice..

[twohands!!!]

He's representing his members.
The 4 small Counties are pissed off with the MC.
I wonder did the other 3 Provinces put pressure on to stop Munster Finalists leap frogging higher League teams?

The Munster Council would have told the other 3 Provinces to take a running jump if any of the other Councils had tried to put any pressure on. T

The fact that the Limerick Munster Council delegate went against the wishes of the Limerick team and management and was so blatantly bought off with promises of extra funds for coaching definitely helped footballers from the 4 counties feel like they are getting screwed over.

[APM]

An unseeded provincial championship makes a mockery of the all Ireland group stages if it means weak provincial are routinely coming through and getting slaughtered in all three games. Tom Parsons and the GPA should stay out of it.

Again on the preseason competitions, which should have been played last year to roll in the rule changes. Instead teams probably played the same number of challenges games but that's no problem for the GPA. It seems to be about getting headlines and creating the sense that the GPA (not players) has a veto on everything - they should be wound up.

[Rossfan]

Extra €1.6m in Budget for Inter Co players.