General Election 2024

Started by Rossfan, November 03, 2024, 05:44:39 PM

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Truthsayer

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on December 01, 2024, 01:18:05 PMMarie Sherlock might creep in ahead of Hutch yet...
One candidate where they're may be a bit of vote rigging... The Monk getting in be some indictment of FF/FG government...

Captain Scarlet

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marty34

Quote from: trileacman on December 01, 2024, 01:05:16 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 01, 2024, 11:51:26 AMJust a general take away from election:

FFG should merge. The big two slipping points in every election but voting for each other as 2nd preferences. Now there's 3 smaller parties.

SF did well/not so well depending on your starting comparsion point. Didn't call for left alliance soon enough.
 
Junior party don't go into government with FFG i.e. Geen Party.

Labour and Soc. Democrats should merge.

Aontu a one man band â la TUV.

II are a rural based, mainly western based party.

They are the political dichotomy upon which the state is literally founded. I don't think you understand that families are usually strictly FG or FF.

PBP, Labour and SF should amalgamate and form a new party given they really have no difference in their political positions.


I don't think you understand they're the same.

You are clearly not looking at the transfer rates between both parties in this election....given that families are usually strictly FG or FF.

Not a ballot sheet of paper between them.

armaghniac

Pascal Donohoe now with 1500 surplus and Sherlock needs only 120 more than Hutch from that.
PR voting will save the day.
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Armagh18

Quote from: armaghniac on December 01, 2024, 02:28:48 PMPascal Donohoe now with 1500 surplus and Sherlock needs only 120 more than Hutch from that.
PR voting will save the day.
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trileacman

Quote from: armaghniac on December 01, 2024, 02:28:48 PMPascal Donohoe now with 1500 surplus and Sherlock needs only 120 more than Hutch from that.
PR voting will save the day.

Would love to see a reformed criminal enter the Dail and speak on behalf of marginalised die-hard Northsiders from the North inner city. But that's not Gerry Hutch. He was and still is a major crime figure whose silence shows he is opposed to helping the Gardai put murderers behind bars. A man who should not be vindicated or legitamised by a Dail seat.
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Truthsayer

Quote from: trileacman on December 01, 2024, 03:22:12 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 01, 2024, 02:28:48 PMPascal Donohoe now with 1500 surplus and Sherlock needs only 120 more than Hutch from that.
PR voting will save the day.

Would love to see a reformed criminal enter the Dail and speak on behalf of marginalised die-hard Northsiders from the North inner city. But that's not Gerry Hutch. He was and still is a major crime figure whose silence shows he is opposed to helping the Gardai put murderers behind bars. A man who should not be vindicated or legitamised by a Dail seat.
Agreed - he didn't get in anyway. Back to the day job.

weareros

As the old saying goes about politicians entering the Dáil. If he wasn't a gangster going in, he would have been coming out.

Rossfan

FF and FG probably ending up with 83 or 84 seats.
I'd expect they will do a deal with some individual Indies.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

seafoid

Fianna Fail haven't been able to reach their pre 2007 heights when they used to be able to reach a majority or needed a few seats from the Progressive Dems or the Greens to reach a majority. I don't see how anyone in the party can get excited about the return this time around.

From the Bunker

Quote from: seafoid on December 01, 2024, 06:43:34 PMFianna Fail haven't been able to reach their pre 2007 heights when they used to be able to reach a majority or needed a few seats from the Progressive Dems or the Greens to reach a majority. I don't see how anyone in the party can get excited about the return this time around.

FF lost 57 seats in 2011. They ended up with 20. They have doubled that in just over a decade. They have been in Government and they will be in Government again. That to me is enough for any Party to get excited.

SF are as far away as ever from entering government.

Premier Emperor

Quote from: Truthsayer on December 01, 2024, 01:20:10 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on December 01, 2024, 01:18:05 PMMarie Sherlock might creep in ahead of Hutch yet...
One candidate where they're may be a bit of vote rigging... The Monk getting in be some indictment of FF/FG government...
Or could it be an indictment of the voters from around there?
Why are do-gooders always absolving them of their bad decisions?

Maybe they just like a sc**bag like Gerry Hutch because he is one of their own.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Rossfan on December 01, 2024, 06:39:12 PMFF and FG probably ending up with 83 or 84 seats.
I'd expect they will do a deal with some individual Indies.


The Healy-Raes (Fianna Fail connections), Lowry (ex-Fianna Gael) Mattie McGrath (ex-Fianna Fail)

Rossfan

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Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

weareros

I'd say tensions will emerge over rotating Taoiseach. FF will likely want it full term if they have 8-10 seats more. FG won't want to be FF's bridesmaid and will point that their transfers contributed to FF success as they were more disciplined in giving transfers to FF. When own parties excluded, it was at a rate 60% to 46%. It slightly opens the door to a FF-SF coalition. There will be some in FG that argue for opposition. They had a poor campaign, were punished for arrogance, poor seat management and will likely get less seats than SF despite a 2% higher first preference, and exit polls that showed them higher for second preference. Surprised there's little talk of how poorly they did in this regard. SF on other hand have performed well at constituency level despite a 6% decline at national level. Of course the 14 extra seats probably covers some things up for the 3 main parties.