General Election 2024

[Armagh18]

This is funny.

https://x.com/ConorSketches/status/1861746948933390733

He is brilliant in fairness.

[AustinPowers]

This is funny.

https://x.com/ConorSketches/status/1861746948933390733

Jaysus,  but I enjoyed those two punches!!   

[Pub Bore]

Final poll before Election Day.

📊 RED C POLL 📊

Fianna Fáil - 21% (-)
Sinn Féin - 20% (+2)
Fine Gael - 20% (-2)
Independents - 14% (-1)
Social Democrats - 6% (-)
Labour - 4% (+1)
Ind Ireland - 4% (+1)
Greens - 4% (-)
Aontú – 4% (-1)
PBP - 2% (-)

It's mad that Soc. Democrats and Labour haven't merged. No difference between them.

Same as FFG.

Probbly two big egos leading Labour and the Soc. Democrats.

They'd be on at least 10% and could be kingmakers.

T'would be a brave man or woman that would call this now...

Interesting that in his interview last night MM blamed the Provies for starting and continuing the Troubles.  Quite the take from the leader of The Republican Party.  Having said that I think "...but the 'RA" wasn't a major feature in this campaign.

[Armagh18]

Final poll before Election Day.

📊 RED C POLL 📊

Fianna Fáil - 21% (-)
Sinn Féin - 20% (+2)
Fine Gael - 20% (-2)
Independents - 14% (-1)
Social Democrats - 6% (-)
Labour - 4% (+1)
Ind Ireland - 4% (+1)
Greens - 4% (-)
Aontú – 4% (-1)
PBP - 2% (-)

It's mad that Soc. Democrats and Labour haven't merged. No difference between them.

Same as FFG.

Probbly two big egos leading Labour and the Soc. Democrats.

They'd be on at least 10% and could be kingmakers.

T'would be a brave man or woman that would call this now...

Interesting that in his interview last night MM blamed the Provies for starting and continuing the Troubles.  Quite the take from the leader of The Republican Party.  Having said that I think "...but the 'RA" wasn't a major feature in this campaign.

MM is a joke of a leader tbh.

In fairness bar Harris' wee dig about the garda the other night it hasn't been too bad

[Rossfan]

Apart from a few ritual "Border poll" calls by the Shinners the 6 Counties,as usual, not an issue in this election.
If 1st prefs and seats turn out as per the poll above
FF 38 (1 seat already - an CC)
FG & SF 35 each.
The rest 66

[Snapchap]

Final poll before Election Day.

📊 RED C POLL 📊

Fianna Fáil - 21% (-)
Sinn Féin - 20% (+2)
Fine Gael - 20% (-2)
Independents - 14% (-1)
Social Democrats - 6% (-)
Labour - 4% (+1)
Ind Ireland - 4% (+1)
Greens - 4% (-)
Aontú – 4% (-1)
PBP - 2% (-)

It's mad that Soc. Democrats and Labour haven't merged. No difference between them.

Same as FFG.

Probbly two big egos leading Labour and the Soc. Democrats.

They'd be on at least 10% and could be kingmakers.

T'would be a brave man or woman that would call this now...

Interesting that in his interview last night MM blamed the Provies for starting and continuing the Troubles.  Quite the take from the leader of The Republican Party.  Having said that I think "...but the 'RA" wasn't a major feature in this campaign.

I would say the f**ker needs a history book, but I have no doubt he knows precisely who actually started the violence in the north.

[Pub Bore]

Apart from a few ritual "Border poll" calls by the Shinners the 6 Counties,as usual, not an issue in this election.
If 1st prefs and seats turn out as per the poll above
FF 38 (1 seat already - an CC)
FG & SF 35 each.
The rest 66

My gut tells me that FF will do a bit better than the polls suggest and SF a bit worse.  I think Aontú might have a good day and the Greens will be hammered.

FF - Low 40s
FG - Mid 30s
SF - Low 30s

Mind you, I thought Harris would beat Trump ,  so don't rush to the bookies.

[Rossfan]

Aontú is a leader (impressive) without a party.

[weareros]

The Exit Poll will be unveiled tomorrow night at 10pm on The Late Late Show. Conducted by: RTE/Virgin Media/TG4/Irish Times, and Ipsos. They are not always right but will give first sense of 1st preference votes.

[Hound]

What  Is the reason for FF/FG's hatred of SF? It just seems strange, given FF and FG  are opposing parties historically , but they obviously  hate SF  a lot more

I have my own suspicions , but just interested in  others thoughts on it


Btw, what was the  reason for the position of each  candidate in the line up last night? Is this usually the order they  stand? Seemed to me it was deliberate , so that MM/SH could  give it to Mary Lou  from both sides (I'm not a  SF voter btw)

There's a lot of middle aged people who remember SF's support for the provos and remember the Provos being involved in organized armed robberies, violence against Gardai and indiscriminate killings of innocent people. I know that is scoffed at by many in here, but it's a fact that some people still would not vote SF because it's still in the memory banks of voters, but getting less important every election.

More important for FF and FG is economic policy. SF are far to the left of FG and FF, they espoused Marxist policies,  anti EU policies and anti enterprise policies. But SF have definitely moved in a bit from their far left positions, so I think they are no longer unpalatable to FF. I think MM would reluctantly accept a coalition on a 'will of the people' basis, if that's the way the electorate voted. But only if FF are the biggest party. Otherwise if FF went into coalition with SF I think he would stand down as leader.

FG are still far away from SF, so it would be a bit of a nonsense for FG to want to go into a coalition with SF, and vice versa of course.

[seafoid]

I think FG are vulnerable

[Hound]

For all the wealth Ireland has, the place is a complete mess - housing, health and education etc. Never mind immigration. I watched Katie Hannon's Up Front programme last night and you'd swear that FFG were new to the whole experience in government. It was just a mess.

'The place is a complete mess' is a very confusing statement for me.

I think it's a great place to live and land of great opportunity. Now, it's not perfect, by a long way. A&E is horrendous and there are long waiting lists for various things that should be better. Personally I have had a number of procedures since COVID and been treated very well

The homeless situation is worse than it should be. Prices of houses are expensive. But those issues are no different to the vast amount of economically successful cities around the world. Personally I think there should be more focus on decentralisation and I think there has been a bit of a lost opportunity post Covid in that regard and not too much in manifestos about it.

I think the education system is really good. We are producing lots of bright students. My kids worked hard for the Leaving (in a non-fee DEIS school), are working hard in university and hopefully should have great opportunities when they graduate. I have a nephew who dropped out of college recently (first year) as it wasn't for him. But he immediately was out looking for work and already picked up a job in a FinTech outfit in Dublin paying about 35k. As an 18 year old with zero experience, I can't imagine what he'll be doing but it's a foot on the ladder into the real world

If people want to vote for change, then so be it. But the very most important thing is the economy. Once you have full employment like we have now, then you have the opportunity to spend tax revenues and try to make a positive difference. And while Cowen and Lenihan had a monumental fook up with the banking crisis, we otherwise have about 40 years of really good decision making from FF and FG to put us in the super economic situation we are in now

[Hound]

I think FG are vulnerable

Even if Harris hadn't messed up, FG were never going to have a great election imo. Too many new candidates. I actually don't think Harris will impact in any material way the seat numbers they end up with, but now he will be blamed for it!  Which is probably a good thing for FG in the long run. Get Paschal in for the next election. The person who is qualified but doesn't want it, is often the best person for it.

[Rossfan]

For all the wealth Ireland has, the place is a complete mess - housing, health and education etc. Never mind immigration. I watched Katie Hannon's Up Front programme last night and you'd swear that FFG were new to the whole experience in government. It was just a mess.

'The place is a complete mess' is a very confusing statement for me.

I think it's a great place to live and land of great opportunity. Now, it's not perfect, by a long way. A&E is horrendous and there are long waiting lists for various things that should be better. Personally I have had a number of procedures since COVID and been treated very well

The homeless situation is worse than it should be. Prices of houses are expensive. But those issues are no different to the vast amount of economically successful cities around the world. Personally I think there should be more focus on decentralisation and I think there has been a bit of a lost opportunity post Covid in that regard and not too much in manifestos about it.

I think the education system is really good. We are producing lots of bright students. My kids worked hard for the Leaving (in a non-fee DEIS school), are working hard in university and hopefully should have great opportunities when they graduate. I have a nephew who dropped out of college recently (first year) as it wasn't for him. But he immediately was out looking for work and already picked up a job in a FinTech outfit in Dublin paying about 35k. As an 18 year old with zero experience, I can't imagine what he'll be doing but it's a foot on the ladder into the real world

If people want to vote for change, then so be it. But the very most important thing is the economy. Once you have full employment like we have now, then you have the opportunity to spend tax revenues and try to make a positive difference. And while Cowen and Lenihan had a monumental fook up with the banking crisis, we otherwise have about 40 years of really good decision making from FF and FG to put us in the super economic situation we are in now

But but all the Nordie SF crew say it's a terrible place........

[armaghniac]

For all the wealth Ireland has, the place is a complete mess - housing, health and education etc. Never mind immigration. I watched Katie Hannon's Up Front programme last night and you'd swear that FFG were new to the whole experience in government. It was just a mess.

'The place is a complete mess' is a very confusing statement for me.

I think it's a great place to live and land of great opportunity. Now, it's not perfect, by a long way. A&E is horrendous and there are long waiting lists for various things that should be better. Personally I have had a number of procedures since COVID and been treated very well

The homeless situation is worse than it should be. Prices of houses are expensive. But those issues are no different to the vast amount of economically successful cities around the world. Personally I think there should be more focus on decentralisation and I think there has been a bit of a lost opportunity post Covid in that regard and not too much in manifestos about it.

I think the education system is really good. We are producing lots of bright students. My kids worked hard for the Leaving (in a non-fee DEIS school), are working hard in university and hopefully should have great opportunities when they graduate. I have a nephew who dropped out of college recently (first year) as it wasn't for him. But he immediately was out looking for work and already picked up a job in a FinTech outfit in Dublin paying about 35k. As an 18 year old with zero experience, I can't imagine what he'll be doing but it's a foot on the ladder into the real world

If people want to vote for change, then so be it. But the very most important thing is the economy. Once you have full employment like we have now, then you have the opportunity to spend tax revenues and try to make a positive difference. And while Cowen and Lenihan had a monumental fook up with the banking crisis, we otherwise have about 40 years of really good decision making from FF and FG to put us in the super economic situation we are in now

But but all the Nordie SF crew say it's a terrible place........

SF always characterise the 26 counties as a terrible place, which is strange as they are supposed to be trying to unite Ireland. They never come out and say clearly that things are much better in independent Ireland. I'd say that it will be characterised as a much better place if they get into power.