All Ireland Club Championships 2024

Started by SouthOfThe Bann, July 31, 2024, 10:32:30 AM

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Blowitupref

Out of interest how would people rate/rank Cuala compared to previous Dublin Senior All Ireland champions over the last 20 years?

2023 - Kilmacud Crokes
2016 - Ballyboden St Enda's
2014 - St Vincents
2009 - Kilmacud Crokes
2008 - St Vincents
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Tyrone Dreamer

Quote from: marty34 on January 20, 2025, 11:20:26 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 20, 2025, 10:48:02 PMErrigal actually dropped a free short to get it back to 2 points with a few minutes left. You wonder if Darragh Canavan had been fit to come back on in those last ten mins could that have given them enough energy to get over the line.

Not with concussion.

It wouldn't be worth the risk. Only a game of football at the end of the day.

I wasn't saying that he should have come back on.

Armagh18

Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 21, 2025, 07:31:32 AM
Quote from: marty34 on January 20, 2025, 11:20:26 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on January 20, 2025, 10:48:02 PMErrigal actually dropped a free short to get it back to 2 points with a few minutes left. You wonder if Darragh Canavan had been fit to come back on in those last ten mins could that have given them enough energy to get over the line.

Not with concussion.

It wouldn't be worth the risk. Only a game of football at the end of the day.

I wasn't saying that he should have come back on.
Yeah, think if he had been fit then that last few minutes would have been even more interesting.

 EC did miss a couple of chances late on, think Ruairi snatched at a shot with his left under pressure when he had a runner, and then at the end when Harte makes that good run and the fella he slipped it to gets blocked down by Con, maybe Darragh in those situations is on the ball and takes the right option.

Anyway all ifs and buts, Cuala were deserved winners overall.

Milltown Row2

There were two late Conor Gormley blocks in that game at both ends. It was a strange game, while exciting and both showed their quality, they just didn't show their quality at the same time, that would have made it a more outstanding game.
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brokencrossbar1

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Quote from: tbrick18 on January 20, 2025, 11:02:20 AMCuala blew them away in the first half - given how far ahead they were at half time they were never going to continue at that level in the 2nd half.
EC pulled back as Cuala dropped off a bit, and Peter Harte played like a man possessed.
But Cuala always had that extra gear when it go too close - the result was never in doubt after about 20 mins in the first half.
EC couldnt get out of their own half.

Cuala were Faster, bigger, stronger and better.



Cannot believe I'm agreeing with tbrick18 on anything, but his last line is absolutely key.

Look at the absolute club kingpins from Ulster as regards the Club Championship (The Rangers).
Yes they had brilliant footballers, don't think I need to name them, but they ( when they were successful) also had plenty of old dogs ( no offence Brokencrossbar) for the hard road.
They could football you off the pitch but they had mem who loved the physical side too.
Any successful team (especially at Club level) needs that.
Yes Oisin  McConville/ Aaron Kernan etc were Rolls Royces of footballers but never underestimate the contributions of the Donal Murtaghs/ John Donaldsons etc.

In my humble opinion Errigal  lacked a bit  of "physical presence ".

Know/ do business with a few from Ballygawley and they'll be gutted today.

None taken....taken as a compliment actually!  Was talking about this last week at training that the core of our team were physically very strong,  12 of our wearing team in excess of 6 foot and well made. We could play anyone at football but if needed we physically dominated.  EC didn't have that yesterday. Physically not up to it and that's not a criticism,  just an observation.

While the come back was excellent a few factors need to be considered. There was the inevitable bounce from
Darraghs injury,  'let's do it for him' approach and that's fine. The only thing is that energy is not sustainable and Cuala were able to keep them somewhat at arms length.

Secondly,  no matter how much you say it doesn't play into your mind Cuala were playing for the final whistle from half time. They were 'managing' the game and I always felt they had the gears to up it if needed. They are a very good team.

With all that said,  and with genuine congratulations to Cuala,  I'd be sitting there as a manager of a senior club team and saying these AIs for winning. I'd say there are 5-6 teams sick this morning thinking 'what if'. While that could be said any year I wouldn't be fearing them if I was playing them next year.

If you're 14 points up and managing the game then you use the extra gears way before it gets down to 3 points in the closing stages. Not credible to suggest otherwise.

Understood but I think they dropped intensity as they were playing for the final whistle and struggled to lift it up when EC went at them initially. They had enough in them though to manage it out. If they score the blocked goal effort they coast on out. If EC come within 2 points anything happens. They were the better balanced team overall and a 3-4 point win probably reflective of the difference between the teams.

blanketattack

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Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.

I don't think he  meant to take him out of the game,  but  it  did look
Like he  put the knee in . He doesn't attempt to play the ball  with the foot so why  put the knee in?

Just on the first watch I thought he could have avoided the collision, would need to watch again in real time, slow mo makes things look worse

Looks deliberate enough. No call for the knee to be there at all. Darragh is on the ball already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfoSoD2i-4&pp=ygUPZGFycmFnaCBjYW5hdmFu

Not for me, the balls there and
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Quote from: Armagh18 on January 19, 2025, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 19, 2025, 05:25:44 PMWas  Canavan  taken out?
only seen it once, looked accidental but was hit hard.

I don't think he  meant to take him out of the game,  but  it  did look
Like he  put the knee in . He doesn't attempt to play the ball  with the foot so why  put the knee in?

Just on the first watch I thought he could have avoided the collision, would need to watch again in real time, slow mo makes things look worse

Looks deliberate enough. No call for the knee to be there at all. Darragh is on the ball already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfoSoD2i-4&pp=ygUPZGFycmFnaCBjYW5hdmFu

Not for me. Player makes a move towards the movement of the ball and Canavan moves to it as well. Accidental in my opinion.

The only way he was going to get the ball was to go through the player. He had zero chance of winning the ball. He was quick enough to get away from the scene

While the knee to head looks poor, only the Cuala player knows if it was deliberate or not.  The fact both Caravans end up in hosp with concussion points to a game plan to target them however.  Could you imagine the media outcry if it was both O'Callaghan's in hosp??

The only difference if the two O'Callaghans had ended up in hospital, is that there would be a post on ReservoirDubs instead of here saying "Could you imagine the media outcry if it was both Canavans's [sic] in hosp??"

And that applies to 99.9% of all these hypothetical scenarios of swapping players/counties around especially scenarios proposed by poor craters from counties whose players would never harm a fly 🙄.

imtommygunn

What did cause Ruairi to be concussed?

(I agree with above post - could have happened either way. This was not exactly a Meath 96 scenario here.)

gallsman

QuoteNo need for the knee to be there at all

You try moving your feet forward without your knee and see how you get on.

Conspiracy theory wankery. Darragh was most certainly not "on the ball already" as is plainly seen in the video. How many teams do you reckon with an 11 point lead after 20 mins think about deliberately kneeing people in the head?


JoG2

Quote from: gallsman on January 25, 2025, 11:04:02 AM
QuoteNo need for the knee to be there at all

You try moving your feet forward without your knee and see how you get on.

Conspiracy theory wankery. Darragh was most certainly not "on the ball already" as is plainly seen in the video. How many teams do you reckon with an 11 point lead after 20 mins think about deliberately kneeing people in the head?



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Blowitupref

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Milltown Row2

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