Premier League 2024-2025

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mrdeeds

Quote from: Armagh18 on December 21, 2024, 06:30:01 PM
Quote from: tiempo on December 21, 2024, 04:53:06 PMPep or Sir Alex seemed a relevant discussion, not any more, SAF is the goat
Yeah if Fergie had retired in about 1999.

Yeah first bad period in his whole managerial career and now Sir Alex is better. Good job Sir Alex never had a bad period.

From the Bunker

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Quote from: Armagh18 on December 21, 2024, 06:30:01 PM
Quote from: tiempo on December 21, 2024, 04:53:06 PMPep or Sir Alex seemed a relevant discussion, not any more, SAF is the goat
Yeah if Fergie had retired in about 1999.

Jez Lad, Don't jump the Gun - Your talking as if Pep is 70 or something!

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Armagh18

Obviously was brilliant with that Barca team but was helped by having one of if not the best to ever do it hit his prime.

Failed at Bayern tbh me or you would have won the Bundesliga with that team.

Yes has turned City into an unreal team (well up until a month ago.) but theres always going to be an asterisk at what they've won.

He's never went into a job where he wasn't taking on the strongest team in the league and with a blank cheque book. Yes City had a poor year before he took over but still had a serious squad at the time.

Unreal manager no doubt but not a patch on Fergie

jcpen

He schooled Fergie twice in Champions League Finals.
SHOCKING REVELATIONS!!!

tiempo

Quote from: Armagh18 on December 21, 2024, 06:30:01 PM
Quote from: tiempo on December 21, 2024, 04:53:06 PMPep or Sir Alex seemed a relevant discussion, not any more, SAF is the goat
Yeah if Fergie had retired in about 1999.

Fergie had to dismantle and build at Utd, before that his Aberdeen achievement equals anything anywhere any time

SAF built legacy at 2 clubs

Pep achieved greatness at Barce and City fair play, but he didn't build from anything remotely like a low base, there's no point counting Bayern it was a cake walk, SAF never had a meltdown like this

Pep schooled SAF in 2 CL finals has to count for something, but not enough to nudge it, only me opinion like

From the Bunker

Quote from: Armagh18 on December 21, 2024, 07:02:53 PMObviously was brilliant with that Barca team but was helped by having one of if not the best to ever do it hit his prime.

Failed at Bayern tbh me or you would have won the Bundesliga with that team.

Yes has turned City into an unreal team (well up until a month ago.) but theres always going to be an asterisk at what they've won.

He's never went into a job where he wasn't taking on the strongest team in the league and with a blank cheque book. Yes City had a poor year before he took over but still had a serious squad at the time.

Unreal manager no doubt but not a patch on Fergie

I'm no fan of Pep and you are 100% with what you say, bar Barcelona B.

Fergie had a dip 2004-2006. Which was to do with a changing of the guard. You can't keep dominating all the time.

You can't also go comparing two managers at different stages of their career.

thewobbler

There's hundreds of men have tried and failed to motivate millionaires.

He's among the greatest managers in history.


Blowitupref

Quote from: From the Bunker on December 21, 2024, 07:20:00 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 21, 2024, 07:02:53 PMObviously was brilliant with that Barca team but was helped by having one of if not the best to ever do it hit his prime.

Failed at Bayern tbh me or you would have won the Bundesliga with that team.

Yes has turned City into an unreal team (well up until a month ago.) but theres always going to be an asterisk at what they've won.

He's never went into a job where he wasn't taking on the strongest team in the league and with a blank cheque book. Yes City had a poor year before he took over but still had a serious squad at the time.

Unreal manager no doubt but not a patch on Fergie

I'm no fan of Pep and you are 100% with what you say, bar Barcelona B.

Fergie had a dip 2004-2006. Which was to do with a changing of the guard. You can't keep dominating all the time.

You can't also go comparing two managers at different stages of their career.

Not worth comparing when few other managers had the longevity of Ferguson.  From the success he had with Aberdeen in the early 80s including the last manager to beat Real Madrid in a European final in 1983 to winning the Premier league title in his retirement season 2013.

Pep Guardiola started out as a manager in 2008 and will he still managing in 2028?

A few weeks ago he said this "I'm not going to manage another team," I'm not going to do is leave Manchester City, go to another country, and do the same thing as now.

"I wouldn't have the energy. The thought of starting somewhere else, all the process of training and so on. No, no, no. Maybe a national team, but that's different.

"I want to leave it and go and play golf. I think stopping would do me good."


Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

jcpen

Some game, Liverpool in total control but Spurs look like they could still score a few.
 
SHOCKING REVELATIONS!!!

bennydorano


gallsman

Liquid football here from Liverpool.

Captain Obvious

Expected comfortable win for Liverpool. Time for more pundits and journalists to call it like it is. That Tottenham style of play doesn't work against any half decent team nevermind top of the table and champion elect team.

gallsman

Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 22, 2024, 05:58:24 PMExpected comfortable win for Liverpool. Time for more pundits and journalists to call it like it is. That Tottenham style of play doesn't work against any half decent team nevermind top of the table and champion elect team.

Pretty much all pundits and journalists have been consistently calling it like it is.

RedHand88

Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 22, 2024, 05:58:24 PMExpected comfortable win for Liverpool. Time for more pundits and journalists to call it like it is. That Tottenham style of play doesn't work against any half decent team nevermind top of the table and champion elect team.

What game are you watching??

jcpen

Quote from: jcpen on December 22, 2024, 05:20:55 PMSome game, Liverpool in total control but Spurs look like they could still score a few.
 

This is what I said at half time... Guess I was right..

Slot will be happy with the win but will be fuming at the soft goals conceded I reckon.

Goal difference could be the difference come the end of the season so that was a chance for Liverpool to put up a gap between them and the other title chasers.
Arsenal, Chelsea and Nottingham Forest.
SHOCKING REVELATIONS!!!