Premier League 2024-2025

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tiempo

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 25, 2024, 03:03:59 PM
Quote from: tiempo on September 25, 2024, 01:22:09 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 25, 2024, 01:16:04 PMEveryone seems so pumped up these days but arsenal and arteta have taken it to a new level. Every decision nearly questioned. All so intense

Meh

RVN missed penalty back in the day was pretty pumped, and the 50th game to end the unbeaten run
Plenty of animosity between Utd-Chelsea, Chelsea-Liverpool, Liverpool-Utd, Utd-City, City-Liverpool going back overt the years
Mourinho even went buck mental at his own physio for treating an injured player

In terms of challenging every decision, it seems a tactic employed by certain teams that their ancillary staff in the dugout get het up

These big flashpoints tend to occur when the rivalry heats up and the stakes are high, nothing new

I take some of your point but the Arse are at it even at the smaller matches. Yes deffo a tactic to get the staff up as much as possible, Newcastle at it too

Get what you're saying

Might be a poor long term strategy, there's only so apoplectic you can get on a continual basis before the lads doing the hard yards see through it, especially as they get older, there's a balance to be struck and they're probably overdoing it

quit yo jibbajabba

Quote from: tiempo on September 25, 2024, 03:47:55 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 25, 2024, 03:03:59 PM
Quote from: tiempo on September 25, 2024, 01:22:09 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 25, 2024, 01:16:04 PMEveryone seems so pumped up these days but arsenal and arteta have taken it to a new level. Every decision nearly questioned. All so intense

Meh

RVN missed penalty back in the day was pretty pumped, and the 50th game to end the unbeaten run
Plenty of animosity between Utd-Chelsea, Chelsea-Liverpool, Liverpool-Utd, Utd-City, City-Liverpool going back overt the years
Mourinho even went buck mental at his own physio for treating an injured player

In terms of challenging every decision, it seems a tactic employed by certain teams that their ancillary staff in the dugout get het up

These big flashpoints tend to occur when the rivalry heats up and the stakes are high, nothing new

I take some of your point but the Arse are at it even at the smaller matches. Yes deffo a tactic to get the staff up as much as possible, Newcastle at it too

Get what you're saying

Might be a poor long term strategy, there's only so apoplectic you can get on a continual basis before the lads doing the hard yards see through it, especially as they get older, there's a balance to be struck and they're probably overdoing it

Agreed. It's making them much less likeable to the "neutral" like me who would normally be happy enough to see city knocked off their perch if pool aren't doing it. Not that they give a shiny shite  about little old me lol

johnnycool

Quote from: jcpen on September 25, 2024, 07:02:41 PMAgreed, Arsenal are very unlikable team and Arteta is a knob.

Is he any different to Alex Ferguson in his pomp?


5times5times

Quote from: johnnycool on September 26, 2024, 01:50:56 PM
Quote from: jcpen on September 25, 2024, 07:02:41 PMAgreed, Arsenal are very unlikable team and Arteta is a knob.

Is he any different to Alex Ferguson in his pomp?



Fergie actually won things.........

Captain Obvious

Quote from: 5times5times on September 26, 2024, 03:27:53 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 26, 2024, 01:50:56 PM
Quote from: jcpen on September 25, 2024, 07:02:41 PMAgreed, Arsenal are very unlikable team and Arteta is a knob.

Is he any different to Alex Ferguson in his pomp?



Fergie actually won things.........

The English media does like to hype up Arteta while ignoring this.


Puckoon

Unabashed Xenophobia at its finest in here.

johnnycool

Quote from: 5times5times on September 26, 2024, 03:27:53 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 26, 2024, 01:50:56 PM
Quote from: jcpen on September 25, 2024, 07:02:41 PMAgreed, Arsenal are very unlikable team and Arteta is a knob.

Is he any different to Alex Ferguson in his pomp?



Fergie actually won things.........

Not for the first few years he didn't.

quit yo jibbajabba


thewobbler

Arsenal not overlay dissimilar to Liverpool over the past few seasons. They know that in order to beat the sportswashing cheats to the title they'll  need as good as perfect of a season. Which is beyond them unless every little decision and stroke of luck goes their way. So it in manifests in overthinking and overdramatising any grey decision that goes against them, in an angry, paranoid way.

I can understand the mindset. It takes something extraordinary to beat the cheats at football.

Biggest difference between them and Scouse though is that Scouse played better football and Klopp was a properly charismatic ****. Arteta isn't charismatic but he is a ****.

quit yo jibbajabba

Wouldn't disagree with any of that tbh. You can see they have a 38 match cup final mentality, and it regularly boils over with the histrionics

JoG2

Quote from: thewobbler on September 26, 2024, 10:37:32 PMArsenal not overlay dissimilar to Liverpool over the past few seasons. They know that in order to beat the sportswashing cheats to the title they'll  need as good as perfect of a season. Which is beyond them unless every little decision and stroke of luck goes their way. So it in manifests in overthinking and overdramatising any grey decision that goes against them, in an angry, paranoid way.

I can understand the mindset. It takes something extraordinary to beat the cheats at football.

Biggest difference between them and Scouse though is that Scouse played better football and Klopp was a properly charismatic ****. Arteta isn't charismatic but he is a ****.

While I agree with your angle Wobbler re sports washing, cheating etc, a wee point of order, Scouse is a stew akin to Irish Stew. I read your post replacing Scouse with Irish Stew and it made less sense that it should, and there's plenty of sense in your post

Captain Obvious

Liverpool under the charismatic Klopp last season was top of the table with eight games to play with Manchester City sitting in 3rd. Klopp was on course for a perfect send off then his players messed up by failing to beat Manchester United,West Ham and lost to Everton,Crystal Palace.

jcpen

Quote from: JoG2 on September 26, 2024, 11:42:05 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 26, 2024, 10:37:32 PMArsenal not overlay dissimilar to Liverpool over the past few seasons. They know that in order to beat the sportswashing cheats to the title they'll  need as good as perfect of a season. Which is beyond them unless every little decision and stroke of luck goes their way. So it in manifests in overthinking and overdramatising any grey decision that goes against them, in an angry, paranoid way.

I can understand the mindset. It takes something extraordinary to beat the cheats at football.

Biggest difference between them and Scouse though is that Scouse played better football and Klopp was a properly charismatic ****. Arteta isn't charismatic but he is a ****.

While I agree with your angle Wobbler re sports washing, cheating etc, a wee point of order, Scouse is a stew akin to Irish Stew. I read your post replacing Scouse with Irish Stew and it made less sense that it should, and there's plenty of sense in your post
;D
SHOCKING REVELATIONS!!!

square_ball

Spurs last night showed Arsenal how to hold onto a lead with 10 men.

quit yo jibbajabba