All-Ireland QFs: Armagh/Roscommon, Dublin/Galway, Donegal/Louth, Kerry/Derry

[armaghniac]

Semi-Finals
 
13-14.07.2024 (Sat/Sun)

The four quarter-final winners shall play against each other in the Semi-Final based on a draw, subject to the avoidance of repeat pairings from the championship, where possible.

The value bet might be each way on Louth, i.e. to reach the AI final. They are only 2/1 against Cork and they cannot be drawn against Kerry or Dublin in the QFs or in the semi final (unless other results make it impossible) so they are priced at something like 6/1 against teams like Armagh or Donegal.

[J70]

Can we join now?

For the week or so anyway.

Will take that.

The big guns all hoping they draw us.

As opposed to Roscommon or Louth/Cork?

I'm sure I speak for all Donegal people when I say we have zero desire to meet Derry next week!

Derry v Donegal & Dubs v Galway double header please!

 

I really don't think Donegal would want Derry.
Some motivation for Derry to get Donegal - right some wrongs so to speak.

Notwithstanding the poor show Tyrone put up in Ballybofey last month, it's a very tough ask to beat the same team twice in championship. Donegal were a ravenous team with nothing to lose in Celtic Park. And there's obviously zero chance Derry will play those kamikaze tactics using Lynch again.

[statto]

Semi-Finals
 
13-14.07.2024 (Sat/Sun)

The four quarter-final winners shall play against each other in the Semi-Final based on a draw, subject to the avoidance of repeat pairings from the championship, where possible.

The value bet might be each way on Louth, i.e. to reach the AI final. They are only 2/1 against Cork and they cannot be drawn against Kerry or Dublin in the QFs or in the semi final (unless other results make it impossible) so they are priced at something like 6/1 against teams like Armagh or Donegal.

Louth won't be making an all Ireland final.

[bennydorano]

Can we join now?

For the week or so anyway.

Will take that.

The big guns all hoping they draw us.

As opposed to Roscommon or Louth/Cork?

I'm sure I speak for all Donegal people when I say we have zero desire to meet Derry next week!

Derry v Donegal & Dubs v Galway double header please!

 

I really don't think Donegal would want Derry.
Some motivation for Derry to get Donegal - right some wrongs so to speak.

Notwithstanding the poor show Tyrone put up in Ballybofey last month, it's a very tough ask to beat the same team twice in championship. Donegal were a ravenous team with nothing to lose in Celtic Park. And there's obviously zero chance Derry will play those kamikaze tactics using Lynch again.

Hard to gauge, Lynch spent plenty of time in the MF area but Mayo were so tactically inept, they themselves slowed down so many attacks letting Derry back to set up it was criminal. Speed kills when attacking.

[Armagh18]

Donegal will tank Derry again if they meet. McGuinness is far too shrewd for Harte.

[Hound]

From a Dubs viewpoint, Cork would be the easiest draw we could get on paper.
Comer is the man I fear most. It was great to see him back yesterday, but only saw highlights so not sure how he was moving.   A fully fit Comer can destroy our full back line. Of course Walsh going off injured not good. They can never seem to get the full complement of their best players fully fit at the same time.

The extra week is a deserved advantage obtained by the group toppers, but is no guarantee of success.

[galwayman]

From a Dubs viewpoint, Cork would be the easiest draw we could get on paper.
Comer is the man I fear most. It was great to see him back yesterday, but only saw highlights so not sure how he was moving.   A fully fit Comer can destroy our full back line. Of course Walsh going off injured not good. They can never seem to get the full complement of their best players fully fit at the same time.

The extra week is a deserved advantage obtained by the group toppers, but is no guarantee of success.

Seems as if the preliminary quarters will be done away with next year so the extra week won't be a factor anymore.
If we draw Donegal we have a chance - if we draw Kerry or Dublin we have no chance.
That's the way I see it.

[Hound]

From a Dubs viewpoint, Cork would be the easiest draw we could get on paper.
Comer is the man I fear most. It was great to see him back yesterday, but only saw highlights so not sure how he was moving.   A fully fit Comer can destroy our full back line. Of course Walsh going off injured not good. They can never seem to get the full complement of their best players fully fit at the same time.

The extra week is a deserved advantage obtained by the group toppers, but is no guarantee of success.

Seems as if the preliminary quarters will be done away with next year so the extra week won't be a factor anymore.
If we draw Donegal we have a chance - if we draw Kerry or Dublin we have no chance.
That's the way I see it.

I think there's an uncertainty about how good Kerry are. But even if they are really good, I think they'll be vulnerable in the quarters as they've coasted to here, and if they get Galway or Derry, they'll have to switch it on big time.

Dubs haven't reached the intensity of last year. This is similar to 2012, 2014 and 2020. It's very difficult to defend when you have reached the target the previous year and need to start from scratch again.  From 2015 the aim wasn't to win 1 AI, it was to win 2 in a row, and when that was achieved it was immediately switched to 5 in a row. Levels naturally dropped when that was achieved. We should not have won in 2020 but the way that season worked out we didn't face anyone good enough to beat us even playing in 2nd/3rd gear.

Last year was a really massive effort and the goal was achieved. Intensity levels have, naturally, been down a bit this year. I felt we would need to suffer a sore loss to get it back and come through that way. Now maybe the Mayo draw when we could/should have lost will get us back to that level, it should certainly bring us on somewhat. But we are definitely not unbeatable for a Galway, Derry, Armagh, Donegal (as we pretty much were for those teams during the 5 in a row period) if they can produce a very good performance.

[Rossfan]

Why can't the draw be done this evening or tonight seeing as it's only a week to the Quarters?

Then they wonder why attendances are down!

[Armagh18]

From a Dubs viewpoint, Cork would be the easiest draw we could get on paper.
Comer is the man I fear most. It was great to see him back yesterday, but only saw highlights so not sure how he was moving.  A fully fit Comer can destroy our full back line. Of course Walsh going off injured not good. They can never seem to get the full complement of their best players fully fit at the same time.

The extra week is a deserved advantage obtained by the group toppers, but is no guarantee of success.

Seems as if the preliminary quarters will be done away with next year so the extra week won't be a factor anymore.
If we draw Donegal we have a chance - if we draw Kerry or Dublin we have no chance.
That's the way I see it.

I think there's an uncertainty about how good Kerry are. But even if they are really good, I think they'll be vulnerable in the quarters as they've coasted to here, and if they get Galway or Derry, they'll have to switch it on big time.

Dubs haven't reached the intensity of last year. This is similar to 2012, 2014 and 2020. It's very difficult to defend when you have reached the target the previous year and need to start from scratch again.  From 2015 the aim wasn't to win 1 AI, it was to win 2 in a row, and when that was achieved it was immediately switched to 5 in a row. Levels naturally dropped when that was achieved. We should not have won in 2020 but the way that season worked out we didn't face anyone good enough to beat us even playing in 2nd/3rd gear.

Last year was a really massive effort and the goal was achieved. Intensity levels have, naturally, been down a bit this year. I felt we would need to suffer a sore loss to get it back and come through that way. Now maybe the Mayo draw when we could/should have lost will get us back to that level, it should certainly bring us on somewhat. But we are definitely not unbeatable for a Galway, Derry, Armagh, Donegal (as we pretty much were for those teams during the 5 in a row period) if they can produce a very good performance.

Long long time from we played Dublin in championship, would be a free hit if we did meet as we'd obviously be written off.

Dublin or Kerry will beat Derry out the gate. Galway with a full team have a good chance against any but given the turnaround and injuries they'll struggle.

[From the Bunker]

Why can't the draw be done this evening or tonight seeing as it's only a week to the Quarters?

Then they wonder why attendances are down!

Yes, the media would have the analysis for the Monday morning papers, podcasts, etc. The hype needs to start straight away.

I presume it's RTE's way of making you tune into Radio 1 in the morning and hoping you don't change the dial for the rest of the day.

[AustinPowers]

Why can't the draw be done this evening or tonight seeing as it's only a week to the Quarters?

Then they wonder why attendances are down!

Yes, the media would have the analysis for the Monday morning papers, podcasts, etc. The hype needs to start straight away.

I presume it's RTE's way of making you tune into Radio 1 in the morning and hoping you don't change the dial for the rest of the day.

It's mad that they even  do the draws on the radio

It's like having a bonfire or fireworks  display on  the radio

Two minutes would  do the thing on the Sunday Game

[armaghniac]

Why can't the draw be done this evening or tonight seeing as it's only a week to the Quarters?

Then they wonder why attendances are down!

Yes, the media would have the analysis for the Monday morning papers, podcasts, etc. The hype needs to start straight away.

I presume it's RTE's way of making you tune into Radio 1 in the morning and hoping you don't change the dial for the rest of the day.

It's mad that they even  do the draws on the radio

It's like having a bonfire or fireworks  display on  the radio

Two minutes would  do the thing on the Sunday Game

They could do it after the 6pm news on TV or during the evening Sunday Game, which would have a GAA audience.

[RedHand88]

Why can't the draw be done this evening or tonight seeing as it's only a week to the Quarters?

Then they wonder why attendances are down!

Yes, the media would have the analysis for the Monday morning papers, podcasts, etc. The hype needs to start straight away.

I presume it's RTE's way of making you tune into Radio 1 in the morning and hoping you don't change the dial for the rest of the day.

It's mad that they even  do the draws on the radio

It's like having a bonfire or fireworks  display on  the radio

Two minutes would  do the thing on the Sunday Game

They could do it after the 6pm news on TV or during the evening Sunday Game, which would have a GAA audience.

As someone said, it's about getting those morning commute listeners.

[Armagh18]

Shur how would they fix it on tv