Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork

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JoG2

Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 01, 2024, 04:50:02 PMBig result for Cork there today. Joke it wasn't available on TV anywhere.

Cork turned Donegal over repeatedly - basically did a Donegal on them. Finished 3 goals and missed 2/3 more chances. Donegal made a valiant effort to get level but Cork just about held out.

Blows group wide open now. Cork v Tyrone is a big one.

Ulster overrated a tad or Donegal just a bit jaded/complacent??

More competitive then overrated I'd say. 3 teams at could potentially reach a semi, 4 if Tyrone (hopefully don't) get themselves sorted. Tbh I'd be very surprised if Donegal get out of the quarters.

Leinster has 1, Munster maybe 2 and Connacht 2 that could reach the last 4

markl121

Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.

JoG2

Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.

A mighty take. Whatever about the rest which is left field, Kerry winning a hypothetical 8 is a load of, well, balls

Mario

Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 05:24:46 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.

A mighty take. Whatever about the rest which is left field, Kerry winning a hypothetical 8 is a load of, well, balls
Why do Kerry always get grouped with Dublin. They are very much in the pack behind Dublin with the top Ulster and Connacht teams. They were embarrassed in their last visit to Croke park

Dunneroyal

Quote from: markl121 on June 01, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Dublin have swept aside ulster teams as easily as they have Leinster for most of the last decade.
Hon the royal

JoG2

Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: markl121 on June 01, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Dublin have swept aside ulster teams as easily as they have Leinster for most of the last decade.

If you're going to double down, best to make it a good one!

Armagh18

Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: markl121 on June 01, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Dublin have swept aside ulster teams as easily as they have Leinster for most of the last decade.

If you're going to double down, best to make it a good one!
How many have they met? Cavan in 2020, Monaghan last year, Tyrone in a final and semi final. Long time from us, Derry or Donegal played them.

Rebel84

How come Donegal always play that bit better against Tyrone?

Dunneroyal

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 01, 2024, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: markl121 on June 01, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Dublin have swept aside ulster teams as easily as they have Leinster for most of the last decade.

If you're going to double down, best to make it a good one!
How many have they met? Cavan in 2020, Monaghan last year, Tyrone in a final and semi final. Long time from us, Derry or Donegal played them.
do you honestly think Dublin would o have won b Donegal Tyrone Armagh etc over the last 10 12 years. ? Genuine question
Hon the royal

Armagh18

Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 02, 2024, 08:20:36 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 01, 2024, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: markl121 on June 01, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Dublin have swept aside ulster teams as easily as they have Leinster for most of the last decade.

If you're going to double down, best to make it a good one!
How many have they met? Cavan in 2020, Monaghan last year, Tyrone in a final and semi final. Long time from us, Derry or Donegal played them.
do you honestly think Dublin would o have won b Donegal Tyrone Armagh etc over the last 10 12 years. ? Genuine question
Ah of course they would. But they wouldn't have had it as easy as they do in Leinster imo. 

Truthsayer

Went to purchase ticket for Tyrone v Clare last night... £22! I genuinely thought it would be bout £12. Maybe I'm very niave. Anyway I won't be there. Ridiculous pricing.

Dunneroyal

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 02, 2024, 08:31:52 AM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 02, 2024, 08:20:36 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 01, 2024, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: markl121 on June 01, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Dublin have swept aside ulster teams as easily as they have Leinster for most of the last decade.

If you're going to double down, best to make it a good one!
How many have they met? Cavan in 2020, Monaghan last year, Tyrone in a final and semi final. Long time from us, Derry or Donegal played them.
do you honestly think Dublin would o have won b Donegal Tyrone Armagh etc over the last 10 12 years. ? Genuine question
Ah of course they would. But they wouldn't have had it as easy as they do in Leinster imo. 
I'd agree with that. But Meath did hold them to 6 points with them getting a penalty that wasn't and we not getting one that was. However that was only one game. I honestly think it's the scars that have left it so easy on dubs. Getting beat once or twice is alright. However when it becomes known before games then it becomes a what's the point exercise. Look what they did to cavan yesterday. 
Hon the royal

J70

Quote from: Rebel84 on June 01, 2024, 11:18:41 PMHow come Donegal always play that bit better against Tyrone?

No we don't. Got hammered last year after a spirited win over Monaghan. 2021 they beat us with a few to spare, albeit after Murphy missed a penalty and got the line. It goes back and forth.

Hound

Is there any local radio coverage that covers Tyrone GAA matches?

mick999

Quote from: Hound on June 02, 2024, 01:16:57 PMIs there any local radio coverage that covers Tyrone GAA matches?

Clare fm are covering it