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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: whitey on Today at 10:32:19 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 10:23:04 AMYour,presumably deliberate, refusal to accurately understand the story is noted.



2 Sinn Fein TDs publicly called them gangsters and criminals and their license to run the IPAs center was revoked.

"Matt Carthy TD, has said the termination of a contract for IPAS accommodation in Drogheda, which was subject to an arson attack and associated with alleged links to criminality, highlights the need for a full review of all IPAS contracts"

The government obviously didn't vet who was getting the contract.

I really don't care what's in the CAB report nor do I think it's relevant.

The swift action of the government to revoke their license when this was made public tells me all I need to know









But they didn't call them 'gangsters and criminals'. They said an individual, who no longer was a director of the company, was 'allegedly linked' to another criminal.

That link, which you don't care about, was that he was in his front garden and witnessed a shooting. The criminal shot at being subject to a CAB investigation.

The contract was withdrawn because the fire safety wasn't up to standard and this was a near miss. And Carty is right to ask are centers safe.

I get it. You want the whole IPAS concept dragged through the mud and specifically that hardened gangsters have been given contracts. Unfortunately the facts don't back you up.

You are holding up this CAB report as 'proof' and then when you are told it doesn't say what you claim the report is now not relevant. Be serious.

Rossfan

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Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Rossfan on Today at 10:56:47 AMTrump lover using Trump tactics!
To be clear, there may be something sniffy here. But the facts we have don't add up to a scandal. So the facts have to go.

To be fair to whitey, he is being honest about that. The fact he introduced is now irrelevant because it doesn't say what he wants it to say. That is candour.

whitey

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 10:48:52 AM
Quote from: whitey on Today at 10:32:19 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 10:23:04 AMYour,presumably deliberate, refusal to accurately understand the story is noted.



2 Sinn Fein TDs publicly called them gangsters and criminals and their license to run the IPAs center was revoked.

"Matt Carthy TD, has said the termination of a contract for IPAS accommodation in Drogheda, which was subject to an arson attack and associated with alleged links to criminality, highlights the need for a full review of all IPAS contracts"

The government obviously didn't vet who was getting the contract.

I really don't care what's in the CAB report nor do I think it's relevant.

The swift action of the government to revoke their license when this was made public tells me all I need to know









But they didn't call them 'gangsters and criminals'. They said an individual, who no longer was a director of the company, was 'allegedly linked' to another criminal.

That link, which you don't care about, was that he was in his front garden and witnessed a shooting. The criminal shot at being subject to a CAB investigation.

The contract was withdrawn because the fire safety wasn't up to standard and this was a near miss. And Carty is right to ask are centers safe.

I get it. You want the whole IPAS concept dragged through the mud and specifically that hardened gangsters have been given contracts. Unfortunately the facts don't back you up.

You are holding up this CAB report as 'proof' and then when you are told it doesn't say what you claim the report is now not relevant. Be serious.

"It terrifies me that gangsters named by the Criminal Assets Bureau are securing contracts and profiteering on public money," Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne said in the Dáil on Tuesday

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: whitey on Today at 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 10:48:52 AM
Quote from: whitey on Today at 10:32:19 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 10:23:04 AMYour,presumably deliberate, refusal to accurately understand the story is noted.



2 Sinn Fein TDs publicly called them gangsters and criminals and their license to run the IPAs center was revoked.

"Matt Carthy TD, has said the termination of a contract for IPAS accommodation in Drogheda, which was subject to an arson attack and associated with alleged links to criminality, highlights the need for a full review of all IPAS contracts"

The government obviously didn't vet who was getting the contract.

I really don't care what's in the CAB report nor do I think it's relevant.

The swift action of the government to revoke their license when this was made public tells me all I need to know









But they didn't call them 'gangsters and criminals'. They said an individual, who no longer was a director of the company, was 'allegedly linked' to another criminal.

That link, which you don't care about, was that he was in his front garden and witnessed a shooting. The criminal shot at being subject to a CAB investigation.

The contract was withdrawn because the fire safety wasn't up to standard and this was a near miss. And Carty is right to ask are centers safe.

I get it. You want the whole IPAS concept dragged through the mud and specifically that hardened gangsters have been given contracts. Unfortunately the facts don't back you up.

You are holding up this CAB report as 'proof' and then when you are told it doesn't say what you claim the report is now not relevant. Be serious.

"It terrifies me that gangsters named by the Criminal Assets Bureau are securing contracts and profiteering on public money," Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne said in the Dáil on Tuesday

And she shouldn't have said that. The chap in question has no criminal convictions.

You are allowed to think for yourself.

whitey

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 02:14:31 PM
Quote from: whitey on Today at 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 10:48:52 AM
Quote from: whitey on Today at 10:32:19 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 10:23:04 AMYour,presumably deliberate, refusal to accurately understand the story is noted.



2 Sinn Fein TDs publicly called them gangsters and criminals and their license to run the IPAs center was revoked.

"Matt Carthy TD, has said the termination of a contract for IPAS accommodation in Drogheda, which was subject to an arson attack and associated with alleged links to criminality, highlights the need for a full review of all IPAS contracts"

The government obviously didn't vet who was getting the contract.

I really don't care what's in the CAB report nor do I think it's relevant.

The swift action of the government to revoke their license when this was made public tells me all I need to know









But they didn't call them 'gangsters and criminals'. They said an individual, who no longer was a director of the company, was 'allegedly linked' to another criminal.

That link, which you don't care about, was that he was in his front garden and witnessed a shooting. The criminal shot at being subject to a CAB investigation.

The contract was withdrawn because the fire safety wasn't up to standard and this was a near miss. And Carty is right to ask are centers safe.

I get it. You want the whole IPAS concept dragged through the mud and specifically that hardened gangsters have been given contracts. Unfortunately the facts don't back you up.

You are holding up this CAB report as 'proof' and then when you are told it doesn't say what you claim the report is now not relevant. Be serious.

"It terrifies me that gangsters named by the Criminal Assets Bureau are securing contracts and profiteering on public money," Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne said in the Dáil on Tuesday

And she shouldn't have said that. The chap in question has no criminal convictions.

You are allowed to think for yourself.


So now she did say it

So I'm not going crazy


whitey

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 02:14:31 PM
Quote from: whitey on Today at 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 10:48:52 AM
Quote from: whitey on Today at 10:32:19 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 10:23:04 AMYour,presumably deliberate, refusal to accurately understand the story is noted.



2 Sinn Fein TDs publicly called them gangsters and criminals and their license to run the IPAs center was revoked.

"Matt Carthy TD, has said the termination of a contract for IPAS accommodation in Drogheda, which was subject to an arson attack and associated with alleged links to criminality, highlights the need for a full review of all IPAS contracts"

The government obviously didn't vet who was getting the contract.

I really don't care what's in the CAB report nor do I think it's relevant.

The swift action of the government to revoke their license when this was made public tells me all I need to know









But they didn't call them 'gangsters and criminals'. They said an individual, who no longer was a director of the company, was 'allegedly linked' to another criminal.

That link, which you don't care about, was that he was in his front garden and witnessed a shooting. The criminal shot at being subject to a CAB investigation.

The contract was withdrawn because the fire safety wasn't up to standard and this was a near miss. And Carty is right to ask are centers safe.

I get it. You want the whole IPAS concept dragged through the mud and specifically that hardened gangsters have been given contracts. Unfortunately the facts don't back you up.

You are holding up this CAB report as 'proof' and then when you are told it doesn't say what you claim the report is now not relevant. Be serious.

"It terrifies me that gangsters named by the Criminal Assets Bureau are securing contracts and profiteering on public money," Sinn Féin TD Joanna Byrne said in the Dáil on Tuesday

And she shouldn't have said that. The chap in question has no criminal convictions.

You are allowed to think for yourself.

What about this chap?

From Matt Carty

"While the person in question has resigned as a director of the Secure Accommodation and is due to be sentenced having pleading guilty to violent disorder, the company continues to provide emergency accommodation in Cavan and Louth"

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: whitey on Today at 02:26:30 PMWhat about this chap?

From Matt Carty

"While the person in question has resigned as a director of the Secure Accommodation and is due to be sentenced having pleading guilty to violent disorder, the company continues to provide emergency accommodation in Cavan and Louth"
So not convicted. And this is in relation to a car crash. Not gangland.

But you seem to be doing your research, which is better late then never.

So we are agreed that the chap in question has no involvement in the company providing the services, has no criminal convictions, admittedly one is pending for a motoring incident and he has nothing to do with the company losing a contract. He is referenced by CAB incidentally in a way any of us could be.

We are moving very quickly from gangsters running IPAS centres, aren't we.

whitey

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 03:19:11 PM
Quote from: whitey on Today at 02:26:30 PMWhat about this chap?

From Matt Carty

"While the person in question has resigned as a director of the Secure Accommodation and is due to be sentenced having pleading guilty to violent disorder, the company continues to provide emergency accommodation in Cavan and Louth"
So not convicted. And this is in relation to a car crash. Not gangland.

But you seem to be doing your research, which is better late then never.

So we are agreed that the chap in question has no involvement in the company providing the services, has no criminal convictions, admittedly one is pending for a motoring incident and he has nothing to do with the company losing a contract. He is referenced by CAB incidentally in a way any of us could be.

We are moving very quickly from gangsters running IPAS centres, aren't we.


Haha

If you plead guilty to violent disorder  you are a convicted criminal

From AI

"Yes, a guilty plea is a form of conviction, as it is a formal admission of guilt that waives the right to a trial and proceeds directly to sentencing. This results in a criminal conviction on your record, just as if you had been found guilty by a jury"



HAS no (current) involvement but HAD involvement when they got the contract