Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[seafoid]

   https://www.ft.com/content/f656aac7-4cb6-4401-99e6-8bd4b5c7df64

   The EU has struck a deal with Israel for a "substantial increase" in aid deliveries to Gaza, Brussels said on Thursday, following weeks of diplomatic pressure on Benjamin Netanyahu's government to unblock shipments to the enclave.

Brussels has demanded Israel end what it has described as "abhorrent" attacks on civilians in Gaza and ease restrictions on aid flows that EU officials have said could breach international law.

The EU also recently warned it could suspend its trade agreement with Israel over potential breaches of its human rights obligations enshrined in the pact.

[DaleCooper]

After some ChatGpt experimenting it gave consistent guess on Ukraines Casualties if the Gaza casualty rate was applied.

At Gaza's casualty rate, Ukraine's war would have resulted in over 620,000 deaths, including nearly half a million civilians — a staggering contrast to the actual toll, underscoring the disproportionate scale of destruction seen in Gaza.


Ukraine civilians deaths currently 13k
Gaza 52k

[High estimate]


note: this sounds hard to believe but the general point is how western governments treat both states comparatively.

[Banks of the Bann]

After some ChatGpt experimenting it gave consistent guess on Ukraines Casualties if the Gaza casualty rate was applied.

At Gaza's casualty rate, Ukraine's war would have resulted in over 620,000 deaths, including nearly half a million civilians — a staggering contrast to the actual toll, underscoring the disproportionate scale of destruction seen in Gaza.


Ukraine civilians deaths currently 13k
Gaza 52k

[High estimate]


note: this sounds hard to believe but the general point is how western governments treat both states comparatively.

Have the Russians reported how many people they murdered in Mariupol and elsewhere in occupied areas of Ukraine? (Hint: the answer is no)

The civilian death toll in Mariupol alone is estimated at 10-20k.

The Western governments do indeed treat the conflicts differently. They fly jets over Israel shooting down Iranian rockets whereas they allow Russia to murder civilians in Ukraine with impunity, not even bothering in some cases to shoot down rockets flying over their own airspace.

Also, as per your post in general, the ghoulish Irish pro-Palestinian disregard for Ukrainian lives continues. Barely mentioned or considered unless to use as a comparison with Gaza. Sickening.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

After some ChatGpt experimenting it gave consistent guess on Ukraines Casualties if the Gaza casualty rate was applied.

At Gaza's casualty rate, Ukraine's war would have resulted in over 620,000 deaths, including nearly half a million civilians — a staggering contrast to the actual toll, underscoring the disproportionate scale of destruction seen in Gaza.


Ukraine civilians deaths currently 13k
Gaza 52k

[High estimate]


note: this sounds hard to believe but the general point is how western governments treat both states comparatively.

Have the Russians reported how many people they murdered in Mariupol and elsewhere in occupied areas of Ukraine? (Hint: the answer is no)

The civilian death toll in Mariupol alone is estimated at 10-20k.

The Western governments do indeed treat the conflicts differently. They fly jets over Israel shooting down Iranian rockets whereas they allow Russia to murder civilians in Ukraine with impunity, not even bothering in some cases to shoot down rockets flying over their own airspace.

Also, as per your post in general, the ghoulish Irish pro-Palestinian disregard for Ukrainian lives continues. Barely mentioned or considered unless to use as a comparison with Gaza. Sickening.

I'll go back to ignoring you after this post.

wow, you just forget all the support the west has given Ukraine compared to Palestine and all the support given to Israel.. easy to ignore all the west's complicity in genocide as it wasn't  the Russians doing it!!

Once again, why have you never called for Palestinians to get all the military and finanical support Ukraine has got?

unless you want more war you are a tankie or a Putin appologists... People who call connelly all sorts of names but when they vote mcgunniess they will just forget about her record on letting people drown, voting to support VDL etc. and silence as the EU/UK and US ignore international law obligations....

[DaleCooper]

What an odd response. For fun you could throw in the Troubles rate for comparison sake.

If only the folk in the Dail were as exercised about that than the Ukraine or Gaza, Irish history might look different.

[Banks of the Bann]

What an odd response. For fun you could throw in the Troubles rate for comparison sake.

If only the folk in the Dail were as exercised about that than the Ukraine or Gaza, Irish history might look different.

You could have used the troubles for comparison sake but you didn't though, did you.

[Banks of the Bann]

After some ChatGpt experimenting it gave consistent guess on Ukraines Casualties if the Gaza casualty rate was applied.

At Gaza's casualty rate, Ukraine's war would have resulted in over 620,000 deaths, including nearly half a million civilians — a staggering contrast to the actual toll, underscoring the disproportionate scale of destruction seen in Gaza.


Ukraine civilians deaths currently 13k
Gaza 52k

[High estimate]


note: this sounds hard to believe but the general point is how western governments treat both states comparatively.

Have the Russians reported how many people they murdered in Mariupol and elsewhere in occupied areas of Ukraine? (Hint: the answer is no)

The civilian death toll in Mariupol alone is estimated at 10-20k.

The Western governments do indeed treat the conflicts differently. They fly jets over Israel shooting down Iranian rockets whereas they allow Russia to murder civilians in Ukraine with impunity, not even bothering in some cases to shoot down rockets flying over their own airspace.

Also, as per your post in general, the ghoulish Irish pro-Palestinian disregard for Ukrainian lives continues. Barely mentioned or considered unless to use as a comparison with Gaza. Sickening.

I'll go back to ignoring you after this post.

wow, you just forget all the support the west has given Ukraine compared to Palestine and all the support given to Israel.. easy to ignore all the west's complicity in genocide as it wasn't  the Russians doing it!!

Once again, why have you never called for Palestinians to get all the military and finanical support Ukraine has got?

unless you want more war you are a tankie or a Putin appologists... People who call connelly all sorts of names but when they vote mcgunniess they will just forget about her record on letting people drown, voting to support VDL etc. and silence as the EU/UK and US ignore international law obligations....

You're some lad, 'back to ignoring me'. You read my every post but don't respond because you can't refute a single thing I say.

I haven't forgotten the support the west have given Ukraine, I just haven't mentioned it in my last post. I have merely highlighted the cowardice of the west and the different stance they have when it comes to rockets over Israel and rockets over Ukraine. That really triggered you, why was that pray tell?

I have also stated that the western position on Gaza and Ukraine is hypocritical many times over.

'unless you want more war you are a tankie or a Putin appologists.' - the issue with your desire for 'less war' and it has been stated to you over and over and over again by everyone who actually knows anything about Russia, is that the only thing that provokes Russia is showing weakness. So in your desire for 'less war', i.e. appeasing Putin, you will only get more war...

Witness Trump's hapless attempts to get an immediate 30 day ceasefire in Ukraine back in March. Ukraine immediately accepted, what did Russia do? Take advantage of American and Western dithering and launch more and more ferocious indiscriminate attacks on civilians all over Ukraine.

Arming Ukraine is not calling for more war, it is the only way to bring peace (along with actual meaningful sanctions) when you're dealing with a monster like Russia. You still don't f**king get it after 3.5 years of slaughter.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

yawn 🥱 3.5 years and slaughter and your answer is more...

[Milltown Row2]

yawn 🥱 3.5 years and slaughter and your answer is more...

Its best just to roll over and get your belly tickled

[PadraicHenryPearse]

yawn 🥱 3.5 years and slaughter and your answer is more...

Its best just to roll over and get your belly tickled

Best to ignore a poster banned muliple times, and wasting my time with hypocrites.

more sleepy now, weren't you not saying resistence wasn't the answer when discussing Palestine, it was all about negotiated peace.. negoaited peace not the answer for Ukraine then... hypocrisy as ever on show!! you still defending the genocidal germans too!

[Banks of the Bann]

yawn 🥱 3.5 years and slaughter and your answer is more...

Oh sure yawn away, better than having to refute anything I say.

My answer is the only way to bring peace to Ukraine. Btw, the Ukrainians understand this which is why they will never capitulate to Russia.

Your great so-called plan for peace will mean todays Ukrainian teenagers will still be fighting this war after surprise, surprise it turns out Russia wasn't just happy to be given 5 regions of Ukraine.

In fairness to Connolly she is just a moron and doesn't get it. As for her bedfellows, Wallace just an opportunist and grifter, like Chay Bowes. Daly is a bitter hardcore tankie and knows the score.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

there you have it and why I yawned and ignore this poster..

My answer is the only way to bring peace to Ukraine

[Banks of the Bann]

there you have it and why I yawned and ignore this poster..

My answer is the only way to bring peace to Ukraine

No you yawned because you can't refute what I have to say. If you try to debate it you'll be shown up for a fool, like you have multiple times before.

That's why you yawn.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

there you have it and why I yawned and ignore this poster..

My answer is the only way to bring peace to Ukraine

No you yawned because you can't refute what I have to say. If you try to debate it you'll be shown up for a fool, like you have multiple times before.

That's why you yawn.

as always even when I say why I did/wrote something and I think I'd know best what i meant and why i did it...you arrogently tell me you know better... back to ignoring...

[Banks of the Bann]

there you have it and why I yawned and ignore this poster..

My answer is the only way to bring peace to Ukraine

No you yawned because you can't refute what I have to say. If you try to debate it you'll be shown up for a fool, like you have multiple times before.

That's why you yawn.

as always even when I say why I did/wrote something and I think I'd know best what i meant and why i did it...you arrogently tell me you know better... back to ignoring...

I think you're a disingenuous coward who is afraid to get into a debate because deep down you know you can't defend your position.

You're stuck having to defend your position because you will never admit you are wrong.

Ukrainians, who know the Russians much better than you or I, have stated over and over, and over and over, that Russia will never abide by any peace agreement with them. They've broken every single one in the past and will break every single one in the future. Russia only backs down when forced to back down. That means properly arming Ukraine to really hurt Russia on the battlefield and proper hard hitting crippling sanctions. Anything else is useless.