Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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Denn Forever

It is basically the Biden deal since may. Trump coming to power soon, Israel didn't think they could ignore him like Biden.
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on January 16, 2025, 10:38:20 AMSeems this deal was on the table since May!?


The Israeli fascists in the Government blocked it.

Truthsayer

The last thing Netenyahu wants, or ever wanted, is peace and a settlement. The epitome of evil. The slaughtering of innocent civilians continues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c3rwqpj70ert

Blowitupref

Quote from: Rossfan on January 16, 2025, 10:38:20 AMSeems this deal was on the table since May!?


Trump trying to take credit for it is somewhat humorous.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Tubberman

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 16, 2025, 11:33:31 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 16, 2025, 10:38:20 AMSeems this deal was on the table since May!?


Trump trying to take credit for it is somewhat humorous.

Do you think its just coincidence that it was agreed now?
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

johnnycool

Quote from: Tubberman on January 16, 2025, 11:47:24 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 16, 2025, 11:33:31 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 16, 2025, 10:38:20 AMSeems this deal was on the table since May!?


Trump trying to take credit for it is somewhat humorous.

Do you think its just coincidence that it was agreed now?

Trump as spooked the Zionists evidently, but I see there's a lot of wriggling going on with Netanyahu and his government, so I'd still have reservations on this ceasefire.

It was never about the hostages with them, the genocidal maniacs.


Blowitupref

#3981
Quote from: Tubberman on January 16, 2025, 11:47:24 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 16, 2025, 11:33:31 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 16, 2025, 10:38:20 AMSeems this deal was on the table since May!?


Trump trying to take credit for it is somewhat humorous.

Do you think its just coincidence that it was agreed now?
It's typical of Trump taking credit for something he had nothing to do with and when things goes wrong in his 2nd term he'll blame Biden for it or scapegoat one of his cabinet picks.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

red hander

I can't abide Trump, but apparently something in it.

Evening Standard reporting: 'The efforts of Trump appear to be decisive...most critical has been the peculiar blunt force diplomacy of Trump's special envoy Steve Witkoff,who simply told Netanyahu to meet him in his office in Jerusalem last weekend, despite it being the Sabbath. The terms of the ceasefire were put to him - and in no uncertain terms.'

Genocide Joe has done nothing to secure a ceasefire, just gave the Zionist Nazis more bombs to murder Palestinian children with.

Armagh18

Quote from: red hander on January 16, 2025, 07:55:24 PMI can't abide Trump, but apparently something in it.

Evening Standard reporting: 'The efforts of Trump appear to be decisive...most critical has been the peculiar blunt force diplomacy of Trump's special envoy Steve Witkoff,who simply told Netanyahu to meet him in his office in Jerusalem last weekend, despite it being the Sabbath. The terms of the ceasefire were put to him - and in no uncertain terms.'

Genocide Joe has done nothing to secure a ceasefire, just gave the Zionist Nazis more bombs to murder Palestinian children with.
That's good then, if true. Trump did promise to sort it in fairness.

seafoid

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-01-16/ty-article/.premium/cease-fire-deal-netanyahu-hopes-hamas-will-rescue-him-from-his-own-web-of-lies/00000194-6fc1-d545-a39e-efc96a2a0000?lts=1737062847054Netanyahu is caught between conflicting promises that he made to Smotrich, Trump and the hostage families.He promised the families he would bring back all the hostages, not just the 33 who are included in the first phase.

He promised Trump to finish the war in Gaza so that a normalization deal with Saudi Arabia could be fast-tracked.

But now, under pressure, he also promised Smotrich to renew the war after the first phase – a move that would lead to the sacrificing of the remaining hostages, and could jeopardize Trump's Saudi dream.

His best way to deal with this problem is to simply play for time: implement the first phase, while promising Smotrich to blow up the second; promise Trump to work on the Saudi track, while preparing his supporters in Israel for the impending renewal of the war.

At the same time, he will continue to tell the hostage families that he's committed to bringing back all their loved ones, contradicting his own commitments to the far-right parties in his coalition.


johnnycool

The subtle phasing of this ceasefire on the BBC there this lunch time just shows you how much fear and control the Zionists have over the British establishment.

The Israelis are hostages yet the Palestinians are prisoners in this exchange!


tbrick18

Quote from: johnnycool on January 17, 2025, 01:23:13 PMThe subtle phasing of this ceasefire on the BBC there this lunch time just shows you how much fear and control the Zionists have over the British establishment.

The Israelis are hostages yet the Palestinians are prisoners in this exchange!



BBC in particular but British media in general have been really deliberate in their reporting so as to not paint Israel in a poor light. Constantly referring to the war....not sure how something so one sided could be considered a war. Not once have I heard them use the words Invasion or genocide. Its disgraceful.
The lack of reporting on what the Zionist settlers are doing, nothing short of pogrom after pogrom against the Palestinian people. Really winds me up.

Tubberman

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Quote from: tbrick18 on January 17, 2025, 01:51:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 17, 2025, 01:23:13 PMThe subtle phasing of this ceasefire on the BBC there this lunch time just shows you how much fear and control the Zionists have over the British establishment.

The Israelis are hostages yet the Palestinians are prisoners in this exchange!



BBC in particular but British media in general have been really deliberate in their reporting so as to not paint Israel in a poor light. Constantly referring to the war....not sure how something so one sided could be considered a war. Not once have I heard them use the words Invasion or genocide. Its disgraceful.
The lack of reporting on what the Zionist settlers are doing, nothing short of pogrom after pogrom against the Palestinian people. Really winds me up.


Channel 4 news is quite fair from the bits I've watched.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

tbrick18

Quote from: Tubberman on January 17, 2025, 01:57:36 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 17, 2025, 01:51:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 17, 2025, 01:23:13 PMThe subtle phasing of this ceasefire on the BBC there this lunch time just shows you how much fear and control the Zionists have over the British establishment.

The Israelis are hostages yet the Palestinians are prisoners in this exchange!



BBC in particular but British media in general have been really deliberate in their reporting so as to not paint Israel in a poor light. Constantly referring to the war....not sure how something so one sided could be considered a war. Not once have I heard them use the words Invasion or genocide. Its disgraceful.
The lack of reporting on what the Zionist settlers are doing, nothing short of pogrom after pogrom against the Palestinian people. Really winds me up.


Channel 4 news is quite far from the bits I've watched.

C4 is the exception - and show objectivity in their reporting.

Rossfan

That arrogant yoke of an ambassador from a genocidal Government trying to tell an Independent State who should or shouldn't speak at a memorial!!!

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/0119/1491690-higgins-erlich/
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.