The NI Legacy Bill

Started by seafoid, September 07, 2023, 08:18:55 AM

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Rossfan

The evidence wasn't very strong unfortunately.
A civil case probably wouldn't get to Court in the cnt's lifetime but would at least keep him under a but if pressure.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

weareros

Comments from the judge:

Judge Patrick Lynch heard evidence across a five-week trial which included statements by two of Soldier F's colleagues.

He dismissed evidence from two paratroopers, Soldiers G and H – described as decisive evidence during the trial – and accused them of committing perjury.

"Their statements, the sole and decisive evidence, cannot be tested in a way that witnesses giving evidence from the witness box would be," he said.

"Delay has, in my view, seriously hampered the capacity of the defence to test the veracity and accuracy of the hearsay statements.

"The two witnesses are themselves, on the basis of the Crown case guilty of murder as, in essence, accomplices with a motivation to name F as a participant in their murderous activities.

"I find that they have been serially untruthful about matters central to events giving rise to this prosecution.

"They have committed perjury, G once to the Widgery Inquiry and H twice to the Widgery and Saville Inquiries.

"This is the evidence the Crown present as proving the guilt of F. Whatever suspicions the court may have about the role of F, this court is constrained and limited by the evidence properly presented before it.

"To convict it has to be upon evidence that is convincing and manifestly reliable.

"The evidence presented by the Crown falls well short of this standard and signally fails to reach the high standard of proof required in a criminal case; that of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

RedHand88

Shite unreliable evidence. Nothing else that could be done.

Wildweasel74

#93
40yrs too late unfortunately, there was no way evidence from 50yrs ago most of it oral, would lead to a conviction. It also suit the UK govt who dont want to go down the route of multi enquiries on murders 40/30yrs ago

gallsman

Gavin f**king Robinson posting para insignia pictures on twitter.

RedHand88

Quote from: gallsman on October 23, 2025, 07:48:39 PMGavin f**king Robinson posting para insignia pictures on twitter.

See stuff like this doesn't help.

Armagh18

Quote from: gallsman on October 23, 2025, 07:48:39 PMGavin f**king Robinson posting para insignia pictures on twitter.
Bitter bastard. Expect nothing less.

David McKeown

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 23, 2025, 08:33:07 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 23, 2025, 07:48:39 PMGavin f**king Robinson posting para insignia pictures on twitter.
Bitter bastard. Expect nothing less.

Very insensitive I thought.
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AustinPowers

Robinson, Allister and that veterans  p***k outside court  are disgusting, rubbing the Bloody Sunday families nose in the  dirt.

14 unarmed civilians  murdered. The army are to blame, regardless of  any court conviction. Even if  you are  pro-veterans, that  is  unquestionable.

Anyone espousing it's  a great day for veterans  are as  disgusting as those  who pulled the triggers  on Bloody Sunday.

Truthsayer

#99
Carla Lockhard also with Para insignia up. Classy doll Carla.. stood with the soldier Dennis Hutchins who shot John Pat Cunningham (a man with the mental age of a child) in the back as he ran away across a field... Benburb 1974. He died of Covid during the trial unfortunately.. seems he was going to be convicted.

imtommygunn

It's the antagonistic nature of it too. Innocent people murdered by the "state" and these pricks almost celebrating it. Disgusting individuals. There were no winners and I hope the soldiers who did this sleep very uneasily at night >:(

weareros

DUP, Allister, Carla, Bryson, Burrows, Hoey - disgusting lot.I used to think we should make an effort to accommodate Unionists in a United Ireland with possibly a new flag and anthem. We should change nothing when the day comes, as it will. Let them f**k off to the lowlands again.

general_lee

Quote from: gallsman on October 23, 2025, 07:48:39 PMGavin f**king Robinson posting para insignia pictures on twitter.
These c***ts are just playing to their gallery. They do it because it's a vote winner. They turn their nose up at "terrorism" and act like butter wouldn't melt, but scratch the surface and they're utter degenerates to a man. I wouldn't piss on Carla Lockhart if she was on fire.

Brendan

Hopefully people remember their bare faced bigotry and finally come together to oust the likes of Robinson, Lockhart and Campbell at the next Westminster election, Allister unfortunately likely untouchable in North Antrim

AustinPowers

Quote from: general_lee on October 23, 2025, 10:15:18 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 23, 2025, 07:48:39 PMGavin f**king Robinson posting para insignia pictures on twitter.
These c***ts are just playing to their gallery. They do it because it's a vote winner. They turn their nose up at "terrorism" and act like butter wouldn't melt, but scratch the surface and they're utter degenerates to a man. I wouldn't piss on Carla Lockhart if she was on fire.

You're right. Everything  they say and do is all about self preservation.  They couldn't resist   getting their say in immediately after  today's verdict.

Sure never mind  about  annoying the families of 14  innocent murder  victims , when a  "playing to the gallery" tweet will win you a few  dozen Neanderthal voters  come next election.

They really are  absolute vermin of the highest order.