Man Utd Thread:

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magpie seanie

Quote from: Minder on April 22, 2014, 09:29:15 AM
According to Matt Ogden, the journalist that broke the story yesterday, United will not be going after Klopp.

Looks like it will be Van Gaal so. Hope the people who track predictions round here remember who said it first....

Geoff Tipps

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 22, 2014, 09:28:42 AM
It will be very interesting now to see what happens with the 'wish list' of signings. Obviously they have been doing a lot of work behind the seens but surely potentials would be saying who will be taking over,who will  be staying?  I don't think it is going to be as easy to get players in as some people might think.

I think it will be a hell of a lot easier than if they had kept Moyes.
Do we know if Fergie is going to choose again?? Perhaps Moyes can choose his successor??
On the upside if Fergie chooses again it'll be a choice between Allardyce and McCleish. ;D

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: magpie seanie on April 22, 2014, 09:24:50 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 22, 2014, 09:07:05 AM
Quote from: deiseach on April 22, 2014, 08:57:36 AM
No longer is there a club that is immune to the shallow quick-fix hire-and-fire culture. A dark day for humanity.

I  know deiseach Man United have never been a sacking club till this dreadful experience,well apart from

Wilf McGuinness 1969-1970 SACKED
Frank O'Farrell 1971-1972   SACKED
Tommy Docherty 1972-1977 SACKED
Dave Sexton  1977-1981 SACKED
Ron Atkinson 1981-1986 SACKED
David Moyes 2013-2014 SACKED

Since 1945 United have had 8 managers and sacked them all except Busby and Fergie.

I think you've made the point very well.  ;)

The thing is though seanie that the culture of clubs until football was invented by Sky was to  keep managers and have a contingency in place. Most clubs were like that and United were no different.  Ferguson and Busby took up 45 years or so of that whole period  After Busby they sacked a manager every couple of years,  I wonder will the same pattern develop?

EC Unique

Feel sorry for Moyes but as a Utd fan I feel this is the turning point. Big name manager (I suspect Van Gaal) to come in with a few massive signings in the summer. The ABUs are obviously on here pissed off I can understand their frustrations as Utds downturn will be short lived. Good times await.  ;D

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: magpie seanie on April 22, 2014, 09:30:20 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 22, 2014, 09:28:42 AM
It will be very interesting now to see what happens with the 'wish list' of signings. Obviously they have been doing a lot of work behind the seens but surely potentials would be saying who will be taking over,who will  be staying?  I don't think it is going to be as easy to get players in as some people might think.

You keep clinging to that!

Do you seriously think keeping Moyes there would have madeit easier to get players in?

I am not clinging to anything.  If it is Van Gaal who comes in he is a very strong minded individual who  could do very well,  but will he be happy with Fergie in the background?  It won't be Klopp.   Apart from that who?

Quote from: EC Unique on April 22, 2014, 09:35:33 AM
Feel sorry for Moyes but as a Utd fan I feel this is the turning point. Big name manager (I suspect Van Gaal) to come in with a few massive signings in the summer. The ABUs are obviously on here pissed off I can understand their frustrations as Utds downturn will be short lived. Good times await.  ;D

Source?


nrico2006

It could be Klopp, Simeone, Van Gaal or someone else?  Hopefully they pick the right man this time.  I think Klopp would be too much of a risk at this stage though.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

Hound

With only a 1 year payoff if they fail to qualify for CL, it was a no brainer to push the button as soon as it was mathematically impossible for them to qualify.

I think Laurent Blanc would do well at United, but it does look like Van Gaal.

Be interesting to see how Giggs does as interim manager, and whether he does anything different.

Hoof Hearted

Brendan Rodgers must be favourite to take over, best manager about at the minute
Treble 6 Nations Fantasy Rugby champion 2008, 2011 & 2012

Bord na Mona man

Feel sorry for Moyes.
Just didn't have the qualities to manage a monolith like Utd.
Bought himself a bit of time lately with a credible CL performance, but the Everton performance killed that last hope.

Now is the perfect time for another man to take charge. Lowered expectations so less pressure, the owners have no choice but to open the wallet and also the bar hasn't been raised by any of Utd's rivals in the mean time.

screenexile

Fantastic ... United are the New Chelsea!!

brokencrossbar1

Not that United were looking him  :P but Klopp rules himself out

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http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/22/jurgen-klopp-job-manchester-united-moyes-borussia-dortmund?CMP=twt_gu

Jürgen Klopp has ruled himself out of the Manchester United job. The 46-year-old told the Guardian: "Man Utd is a great club and I feel very familiar with their wonderful fans. But my commitment to Borussia Dortmund and the people is not breakable."

Klopp, who was widely reported to be one of the United board's preferred candidates to succeed David Moyes, extended his contract at the Bundesliga side until 2018 in October and explained that he was "still in love" with the club last week. United did inquire about the possibility of attaining his services recently but were told that Klopp was insistent on honoring his contract at the Signal Iduna Park.

Contrary to the perception in England, neither Dortmund nor their coach believe that the team have hit their glass ceiling after losing two key players, Mario Götze and Robert Lewandowski, to the league winners Bayern Munich.

The club have only begun to establish themselves as the German league's second force after nearly going out of business in 2005. Strong financial growth over the course of the last three years has seen their turnover rise to £256m in 2012-13, a figure that puts them ahead of Premier League teams like Liverpool £240m and Tottenham Hotspur £172m.

Since taking on the job the 2008, Klopp has led his young squad to two championships, one German FA Cup and an appearance at the Champions League final in Wembley last may. Dortmund have qualified for the next Champions League group stage and will also contest this year's cup final in Berlin, where Bayern will once again provide the opposition.

Dortmund, meanwhile, are interested in resigning Shinji Kagawa from United. The Japanese midfielder has struggled to be a regular at Old Trafford since his £17.6m move from Dortmund in 2012. Kagawa was believed to be weighing up the option of a return to Germany but is now expected to wait for the arrival of United's new manager, in the hope that his chances will improve.

Shrewdness

Giggs and Butt could be in charge for Saturday. I hear that Chris Woods might stay on as goalkeeping coach until end of season.

rodney trotter

Quote from: magpie seanie on April 22, 2014, 09:31:46 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 22, 2014, 09:29:15 AM
According to Matt Ogden, the journalist that broke the story yesterday, United will not be going after Klopp.

Looks like it will be Van Gaal so. Hope the people who track predictions round here remember who said it first....

Why would Kloop have taken the Utd job anyway? when he signed a new deal last October until 2018 and has Champions League football next year. Some of the players let Moyes down with very poor displays and Rio talking crap on Twitter.

But it was probaly time for a change, Van Gaal seems the likely choice.

AZOffaly

It has been said that the best job in football would be to take over from the man who succeeds Alex ferguson. Obviously the thinking being that ferguson would have the bar set too high. A new sacrificial lamb would come in and bear the brunt of the inevitable frustrations. Then the next man up would have a huge club with probably looser purse strings and more manageable expectations.

I suppose we are about to find out.

dferg

Quote from: AZOffaly on April 22, 2014, 10:50:48 AM
It has been said that the best job in football would be to take over from the man who succeeds Alex ferguson. Obviously the thinking being that ferguson would have the bar set too high. A new sacrificial lamb would come in and bear the brunt of the inevitable frustrations. Then the next man up would have a huge club with probably looser purse strings and more manageable expectations.

I suppose we are about to find out.

Are they an attractive proposition to a top manager though?  More like a difficult challenge.

Some of there main players last season.

Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra
Scholes
Giggs
Rooney
Van Persie

All too old or in the case of Rooney and Van Persie overrated.

They have an aging squad and are a PLC with 60 million interest on there debt to pay every year, so they can't go mad buying anyone and everyone like Chelsea, Man City, PSG, Real Madrid.