Man Utd Thread:

[Armagh18]

There seems to be some talk of Nagelsmann, Tuchel or even Ancelotti after the world cup. Did Tuchel not already turn them down when ETH was still there?

The issue is if the interim doesn't go well and you miss out on Europe again, financially that's another disaster. Then the new boss comes in late after the WC and if they don't start well you're in bother again.

Again I've no faith in the board to get the next decision right. They've had 3 big decisions to make and got them all wrong. ETH kept then sacked, waited months for Ashworth then sacked him and finally picked a manager who stated he played 343, which they hadn't the squad for, and then badgered him to change to the point he lost the head with them.

Its been a disasterclass

Taking Amorim out was completely the right move, if they're letting him lay waste to petulant children in the form of Garnacho Antony Rashford and Mainoo then he can't honestly sit there acting the ballix and expect the board to let him continue

Such a huge irony that in the end Ruben Amonrim was the Marcus Rashford of Jose Mourinhos

Jason Wilcox by the way, let that sink in, Jason Wilcox is running the 'football operation', would you trust him to run a corner shop? Totally gormless the fella

Utd's most decorated captain Roy Keane is the answer, its been staring them in the face for years and still an oul octogenarian holds sway due to a petty feud over a horse

Not sure I'd include Antony and definitely not Mainoo in that category. Antony tried he just is totally unsuited to the league and is happy enough where he is. Garnacho and Rashford are total clowns.

Mainoo has talent and by all accounts had the right attitude, just unfortunate that the only place for him in that system was the position Bruno plays which he was never getting. Think he'll come good.

[laoislad]

I genuinely don't think United will get 4th place.   

City and Arsenal are miles ahead of the rest, Villa will falter soon enough, but should hold onto 3rd.
After that, the standard is quite bad. Amorim had more than enough chances to nail down a top 4 spot this last month and never succeeded.

Sure I thought they're only a goalkeeper away from contending for the title   

It was a keeper and midfielder. If United had gotten Baleba or Wharton, they'd have a top 4 place nailed already.

I know you're taking the piss but they probably would be up around where Villa are with a proper midfield, when you look at all the silly points they dropped against poor teams

So it's only Man United that are allowed to count silly points dropped?
Could every team in the league not same the same thing?
Man United fans are hilarious.

Who's counting them? If you weren't trolling you be fit to see that yes a competent midfielder would have made a difference in a lot of those games, which is the original point.

I'm not trolling just calling out your bullshit.
I get it though, if Man United won all the games they didn't they would be top of the league 👍

[Armagh18]

Bullshit that a quality player in a vital part of the team would have helped a team that struggled in that area and they might have a few more points if they'd bought someone?

Come on now.

[laoislad]

You're not getting it, that's ok I didn't expect you too.

[Dag Dog]

You're not getting it, that's ok I didn't expect you too.

You're attempts at wind ups are 2/10 at best. Please do better.

[seafoid]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/01/05/sir-jim-ratcliffe-has-got-all-big-decisions-wrong-at-united/When you reflect on this saga, perhaps the most extraordinary detail is United's surprise at the manager that Amorim turned out to be. Ratcliffe prised him from Sporting Lisbon in the first place, knowing full well that he was a headstrong personality wedded to a rigid tactical system. And yet now he has cast him aside for the very same reasons. An impression grows that Ratcliffe, for all his staggering business successes, has not the faintest conception of how to put the listing United supertanker back on an even keel. For fans hoping fervently for a turning of the page, Amorim's exit signals less a masterstroke than another desperate stab in the dark.

[Blowitupref]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/01/05/sir-jim-ratcliffe-has-got-all-big-decisions-wrong-at-united/When you reflect on this saga, perhaps the most extraordinary detail is United's surprise at the manager that Amorim turned out to be. Ratcliffe prised him from Sporting Lisbon in the first place, knowing full well that he was a headstrong personality wedded to a rigid tactical system. And yet now he has cast him aside for the very same reasons. An impression grows that Ratcliffe, for all his staggering business successes, has not the faintest conception of how to put the listing United supertanker back on an even keel. For fans hoping fervently for a turning of the page, Amorim's exit signals less a masterstroke than another desperate stab in the dark.

What's been going on since Ferguson retired in 2013, he ran the club on and off the field with a Iron fist and over the last decade it's clear under the ownership of the Glazers how desperately run the club are and has been no improvement by passing on the football side of things to Radcliffe and with hand picked guys.

I might add the day's of a manager holding everything together as Ferguson did are over and unless the club can become well run off the field you can't expect to be challenging for major honours on the field.

[NAG1]

Probably systematic across the whole league, the best run clubs are the ones that have to be. Your Brentford's and Brighton's for the simple fact that they can't afford not to be.

To be fair Arsenal have got there too but it took a while. The rest of the big 5/6 think they can just spend their way out of it. United have just both not spent well and not become better run behind the scenes which leaves them in this cycle.

[seafoid]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/01/05/sir-jim-ratcliffe-has-got-all-big-decisions-wrong-at-united/When you reflect on this saga, perhaps the most extraordinary detail is United's surprise at the manager that Amorim turned out to be. Ratcliffe prised him from Sporting Lisbon in the first place, knowing full well that he was a headstrong personality wedded to a rigid tactical system. And yet now he has cast him aside for the very same reasons. An impression grows that Ratcliffe, for all his staggering business successes, has not the faintest conception of how to put the listing United supertanker back on an even keel. For fans hoping fervently for a turning of the page, Amorim's exit signals less a masterstroke than another desperate stab in the dark.

What's been going on since Ferguson retired in 2013, he ran the club on and off the field with a Iron fist and over the last decade it's clear under the ownership of the Glazers how desperately run the club are and has been no improvement by passing on the football side of things to Radcliffe and with hand picked guys.

I might add the day's of a manager holding everything together as Ferguson did are over and unless the club can become well run off the field you can't expect to be challenging for major honours on the field.

Man Utd have spent £2 billion on players since Ferguson left.

[Armagh18]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/01/05/sir-jim-ratcliffe-has-got-all-big-decisions-wrong-at-united/When you reflect on this saga, perhaps the most extraordinary detail is United's surprise at the manager that Amorim turned out to be. Ratcliffe prised him from Sporting Lisbon in the first place, knowing full well that he was a headstrong personality wedded to a rigid tactical system. And yet now he has cast him aside for the very same reasons. An impression grows that Ratcliffe, for all his staggering business successes, has not the faintest conception of how to put the listing United supertanker back on an even keel. For fans hoping fervently for a turning of the page, Amorim's exit signals less a masterstroke than another desperate stab in the dark.

What's been going on since Ferguson retired in 2013, he ran the club on and off the field with a Iron fist and over the last decade it's clear under the ownership of the Glazers how desperately run the club are and has been no improvement by passing on the football side of things to Radcliffe and with hand picked guys.

I might add the day's of a manager holding everything together as Ferguson did are over and unless the club can become well run off the field you can't expect to be challenging for major honours on the field.

Man Utd have spent £2 billion on players since Ferguson left.

Wonder how much of that spend you could call a success? Or even better than useless?

[marty34]

I justdon't get a lot of these managers.

Look at Amorim and Nancy at Celtic. Stuck on rigid formations....that clearly didn't work. And they can't change it.

I mean imagine working in a job and only having one way of doing it and if it's isn't working, then you won't adapt.

WTF?

The money these lads are getting paid and not altering or even wanting to alter a formation (after it clearly not working) is a disgrace.

[clonian]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/01/05/sir-jim-ratcliffe-has-got-all-big-decisions-wrong-at-united/When you reflect on this saga, perhaps the most extraordinary detail is United's surprise at the manager that Amorim turned out to be. Ratcliffe prised him from Sporting Lisbon in the first place, knowing full well that he was a headstrong personality wedded to a rigid tactical system. And yet now he has cast him aside for the very same reasons. An impression grows that Ratcliffe, for all his staggering business successes, has not the faintest conception of how to put the listing United supertanker back on an even keel. For fans hoping fervently for a turning of the page, Amorim's exit signals less a masterstroke than another desperate stab in the dark.

What's been going on since Ferguson retired in 2013, he ran the club on and off the field with a Iron fist and over the last decade it's clear under the ownership of the Glazers how desperately run the club are and has been no improvement by passing on the football side of things to Radcliffe and with hand picked guys.

I might add the day's of a manager holding everything together as Ferguson did are over and unless the club can become well run off the field you can't expect to be challenging for major honours on the field.

Man Utd have spent £2 billion on players since Ferguson left.

How much have Arsenal spent since Arteta took over? Chelsea have nearly spent that in the last couple of years.

[93-DY-SAM]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/01/05/sir-jim-ratcliffe-has-got-all-big-decisions-wrong-at-united/When you reflect on this saga, perhaps the most extraordinary detail is United's surprise at the manager that Amorim turned out to be. Ratcliffe prised him from Sporting Lisbon in the first place, knowing full well that he was a headstrong personality wedded to a rigid tactical system. And yet now he has cast him aside for the very same reasons. An impression grows that Ratcliffe, for all his staggering business successes, has not the faintest conception of how to put the listing United supertanker back on an even keel. For fans hoping fervently for a turning of the page, Amorim's exit signals less a masterstroke than another desperate stab in the dark.

What's been going on since Ferguson retired in 2013, he ran the club on and off the field with a Iron fist and over the last decade it's clear under the ownership of the Glazers how desperately run the club are and has been no improvement by passing on the football side of things to Radcliffe and with hand picked guys.

I might add the day's of a manager holding everything together as Ferguson did are over and unless the club can become well run off the field you can't expect to be challenging for major honours on the field.

Man Utd have spent £2 billion on players since Ferguson left.

How much have Arsenal spent since Arteta took over? Chelsea have nearly spent that in the last couple of years.

Arteta has spent about a billion.

[clonian]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/01/05/sir-jim-ratcliffe-has-got-all-big-decisions-wrong-at-united/When you reflect on this saga, perhaps the most extraordinary detail is United's surprise at the manager that Amorim turned out to be. Ratcliffe prised him from Sporting Lisbon in the first place, knowing full well that he was a headstrong personality wedded to a rigid tactical system. And yet now he has cast him aside for the very same reasons. An impression grows that Ratcliffe, for all his staggering business successes, has not the faintest conception of how to put the listing United supertanker back on an even keel. For fans hoping fervently for a turning of the page, Amorim's exit signals less a masterstroke than another desperate stab in the dark.

What's been going on since Ferguson retired in 2013, he ran the club on and off the field with a Iron fist and over the last decade it's clear under the ownership of the Glazers how desperately run the club are and has been no improvement by passing on the football side of things to Radcliffe and with hand picked guys.

I might add the day's of a manager holding everything together as Ferguson did are over and unless the club can become well run off the field you can't expect to be challenging for major honours on the field.

Man Utd have spent £2 billion on players since Ferguson left.

How much have Arsenal spent since Arteta took over? Chelsea have nearly spent that in the last couple of years.

Arteta has spent about a billion.

Spent fairly well to be fair too.

[Baile Brigín 2]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/01/05/sir-jim-ratcliffe-has-got-all-big-decisions-wrong-at-united/When you reflect on this saga, perhaps the most extraordinary detail is United's surprise at the manager that Amorim turned out to be. Ratcliffe prised him from Sporting Lisbon in the first place, knowing full well that he was a headstrong personality wedded to a rigid tactical system. And yet now he has cast him aside for the very same reasons. An impression grows that Ratcliffe, for all his staggering business successes, has not the faintest conception of how to put the listing United supertanker back on an even keel. For fans hoping fervently for a turning of the page, Amorim's exit signals less a masterstroke than another desperate stab in the dark.

What's been going on since Ferguson retired in 2013, he ran the club on and off the field with a Iron fist and over the last decade it's clear under the ownership of the Glazers how desperately run the club are and has been no improvement by passing on the football side of things to Radcliffe and with hand picked guys.

I might add the day's of a manager holding everything together as Ferguson did are over and unless the club can become well run off the field you can't expect to be challenging for major honours on the field.

Man Utd have spent £2 billion on players since Ferguson left.

How much have Arsenal spent since Arteta took over? Chelsea have nearly spent that in the last couple of years.

Arteta has spent about a billion.

And are top of the league.

The reality is since Ferguson left you would struggle to name any successful signings. Shaw? Bruno? Anyone else?