Man Utd Thread:

[Dag Dog]

Liverpool's worst run of form since the 1950s

Get used to the new normal...

[trueblue1234]

Liverpool's worst run of form since the 1950s

Get used to the new normal...

Being above United?

[clonian]

Solksjaer has shown interest in taking over, regardless of contract length, as per Fabrizio Romano.

Not sure there's many better options realistically until the end of the year?

By sounds of it they appear to want to get someone into the end of the season, with the world cup in the summer. This will increase the number of potential candidates available once the tournament is completed.

There seems to be some talk of Nagelsmann, Tuchel or even Ancelotti after the world cup. Did Tuchel not already turn them down when ETH was still there?

The issue is if the interim doesn't go well and you miss out on Europe again, financially that's another disaster. Then the new boss comes in late after the WC and if they don't start well you're in bother again.

Again I've no faith in the board to get the next decision right. They've had 3 big decisions to make and got them all wrong. ETH kept then sacked, waited months for Ashworth then sacked him and finally picked a manager who stated he played 343, which they hadn't the squad for, and then badgered him to change to the point he lost the head with them.

[Armagh18]

I genuinely don't think United will get 4th place.   

City and Arsenal are miles ahead of the rest, Villa will falter soon enough, but should hold onto 3rd.
After that, the standard is quite bad. Amorim had more than enough chances to nail down a top 4 spot this last month and never succeeded.

Sure I thought they're only a goalkeeper away from contending for the title   

It was a keeper and midfielder. If United had gotten Baleba or Wharton, they'd have a top 4 place nailed already.

I know you're taking the piss but they probably would be up around where Villa are with a proper midfield, when you look at all the silly points they dropped against poor teams

[Armagh18]

I was actually assuming that Ugarte was maybe the 1 actual midfielder 

Rory Beggan be better in midfield than that fella!

[NAG1]

Solksjaer has shown interest in taking over, regardless of contract length, as per Fabrizio Romano.

Not sure there's many better options realistically until the end of the year?

By sounds of it they appear to want to get someone into the end of the season, with the world cup in the summer. This will increase the number of potential candidates available once the tournament is completed.

There seems to be some talk of Nagelsmann, Tuchel or even Ancelotti after the world cup. Did Tuchel not already turn them down when ETH was still there?

The issue is if the interim doesn't go well and you miss out on Europe again, financially that's another disaster. Then the new boss comes in late after the WC and if they don't start well you're in bother again.

Again I've no faith in the board to get the next decision right. They've had 3 big decisions to make and got them all wrong. ETH kept then sacked, waited months for Ashworth then sacked him and finally picked a manager who stated he played 343, which they hadn't the squad for, and then badgered him to change to the point he lost the head with them.

Yeah and Glasner is favourite with the bookies, another 3-4-3 advocate. So what do they do?

A interim comes in does well, do they stick with him? It's rinse and repeat unfortunately.

[thewobbler]

I genuinely don't think United will get 4th place.   

City and Arsenal are miles ahead of the rest, Villa will falter soon enough, but should hold onto 3rd.
After that, the standard is quite bad. Amorim had more than enough chances to nail down a top 4 spot this last month and never succeeded.

Sure I thought they're only a goalkeeper away from contending for the title   

It was a keeper and midfielder. If United had gotten Baleba or Wharton, they'd have a top 4 place nailed already.

I know you're taking the piss but they probably would be up around where Villa are with a proper midfield, when you look at all the silly points they dropped against poor teams

The thing is, for every club in the "nearly" spots, there's always a missing piece of the jigsaw. And it's never as simple as getting one player in.

FWIW, over the past year, Man Utd's owners have made some serious strides in the right direction. Moving on Amorim now rather than giving him a window for buying players is the right move. They seem for now to have stopped buying in overpriced cast-offs. There are gaps in the squad, but moving on Casemiro and Maguire from the wage bill will create some leeway in the summer.

There are signs of learning. Further reducing their wage bill though is the key. Taking speculative punts on talent is one thing, doing so while paying them wages that means they can't ever be offloaded, that's been the longstanding problem for the club.

[Armagh18]

Solksjaer has shown interest in taking over, regardless of contract length, as per Fabrizio Romano.

Not sure there's many better options realistically until the end of the year?

By sounds of it they appear to want to get someone into the end of the season, with the world cup in the summer. This will increase the number of potential candidates available once the tournament is completed.

There seems to be some talk of Nagelsmann, Tuchel or even Ancelotti after the world cup. Did Tuchel not already turn them down when ETH was still there?

The issue is if the interim doesn't go well and you miss out on Europe again, financially that's another disaster. Then the new boss comes in late after the WC and if they don't start well you're in bother again.

Again I've no faith in the board to get the next decision right. They've had 3 big decisions to make and got them all wrong. ETH kept then sacked, waited months for Ashworth then sacked him and finally picked a manager who stated he played 343, which they hadn't the squad for, and then badgered him to change to the point he lost the head with them.

Yeah and Glasner is favourite with the bookies, another 3-4-3 advocate. So what do they do?

A interim comes in does well, do they stick with him? It's rinse and repeat unfortunately.

Seen quotes from Glasner that he likes the 343 at Palace as it suits their players, but that he's adaptable and will play whatever suits the team. Don't know enough about him to know whether that's true or not.

I think at this point United fans would back someone who'll play youth, play attacking football and make substitutions like a defender for a forward if you're chasing a goal late on, rather than subbing a centre back for another.

Amorim was saying a lot of the right stuff.

[Armagh18]

I genuinely don't think United will get 4th place.   

City and Arsenal are miles ahead of the rest, Villa will falter soon enough, but should hold onto 3rd.
After that, the standard is quite bad. Amorim had more than enough chances to nail down a top 4 spot this last month and never succeeded.

Sure I thought they're only a goalkeeper away from contending for the title   

It was a keeper and midfielder. If United had gotten Baleba or Wharton, they'd have a top 4 place nailed already.

I know you're taking the piss but they probably would be up around where Villa are with a proper midfield, when you look at all the silly points they dropped against poor teams

The thing is, for every club in the "nearly" spots, there's always a missing piece of the jigsaw. And it's never as simple as getting one player in.

FWIW, over the past year, Man Utd's owners have made some serious strides in the right direction. Moving on Amorim now rather than giving him a window for buying players is the right move. They seem for now to have stopped buying in overpriced cast-offs. There are gaps in the squad, but moving on Casemiro and Maguire from the wage bill will create some leeway in the summer.

There are signs of learning. Further reducing their wage bill though is the key. Taking speculative punts on talent is one thing, doing so while paying them wages that means they can't ever be offloaded, that's been the longstanding problem for the club.

Yeah absolutely, although I can see Maguire getting another year on less money which I probably wouldn't be opposed to.

They absolutely should be buying a midfielder in January and probably 2 more in the summer, given that Casemiro and Ugarte will hopefully be gone in the summer.

[tiempo]

There seems to be some talk of Nagelsmann, Tuchel or even Ancelotti after the world cup. Did Tuchel not already turn them down when ETH was still there?

The issue is if the interim doesn't go well and you miss out on Europe again, financially that's another disaster. Then the new boss comes in late after the WC and if they don't start well you're in bother again.

Again I've no faith in the board to get the next decision right. They've had 3 big decisions to make and got them all wrong. ETH kept then sacked, waited months for Ashworth then sacked him and finally picked a manager who stated he played 343, which they hadn't the squad for, and then badgered him to change to the point he lost the head with them.

Its been a disasterclass

Taking Amorim out was completely the right move, if they're letting him lay waste to petulant children in the form of Garnacho Antony Rashford and Mainoo then he can't honestly sit there acting the ballix and expect the board to let him continue

Such a huge irony that in the end Ruben Amonrim was the Marcus Rashford of Jose Mourinhos

Jason Wilcox by the way, let that sink in, Jason Wilcox is running the 'football operation', would you trust him to run a corner shop? Totally gormless the fella

Utd's most decorated captain Roy Keane is the answer, its been staring them in the face for years and still an oul octogenarian holds sway due to a petty feud over a horse

[laoislad]

I genuinely don't think United will get 4th place.   

City and Arsenal are miles ahead of the rest, Villa will falter soon enough, but should hold onto 3rd.
After that, the standard is quite bad. Amorim had more than enough chances to nail down a top 4 spot this last month and never succeeded.

Sure I thought they're only a goalkeeper away from contending for the title   

It was a keeper and midfielder. If United had gotten Baleba or Wharton, they'd have a top 4 place nailed already.

I know you're taking the piss but they probably would be up around where Villa are with a proper midfield, when you look at all the silly points they dropped against poor teams

So it's only Man United that are allowed to count silly points dropped?
Could every team in the league not same the same thing?
Man United fans are hilarious.

[clonian]

There seems to be some talk of Nagelsmann, Tuchel or even Ancelotti after the world cup. Did Tuchel not already turn them down when ETH was still there?

The issue is if the interim doesn't go well and you miss out on Europe again, financially that's another disaster. Then the new boss comes in late after the WC and if they don't start well you're in bother again.

Again I've no faith in the board to get the next decision right. They've had 3 big decisions to make and got them all wrong. ETH kept then sacked, waited months for Ashworth then sacked him and finally picked a manager who stated he played 343, which they hadn't the squad for, and then badgered him to change to the point he lost the head with them.

Its been a disasterclass

Taking Amorim out was completely the right move, if they're letting him lay waste to petulant children in the form of Garnacho Antony Rashford and Mainoo then he can't honestly sit there acting the ballix and expect the board to let him continue

Such a huge irony that in the end Ruben Amonrim was the Marcus Rashford of Jose Mourinhos

Jason Wilcox by the way, let that sink in, Jason Wilcox is running the 'football operation', would you trust him to run a corner shop? Totally gormless the fella

Utd's most decorated captain Roy Keane is the answer, its been staring them in the face for years and still an oul octogenarian holds sway due to a petty feud over a horse

Nicky Butt was agreeing with you but if Wilcox was shocked at Amorim's reaction I don't think he has the character to deal with Roy.

[Milltown Row2]

Liverpool's worst run of form since the 1950s

Get used to the new normal...

Being above United?

That could change at the weekend.. though wouldn't hold my breath

[tiempo]

Nicky Butt was agreeing with you but if Wilcox was shocked at Amorim's reaction I don't think he has the character to deal with Roy.

Wilcox a classic case of The Peter principle, promoted to the level of his incompetence

[Armagh18]

I genuinely don't think United will get 4th place.   

City and Arsenal are miles ahead of the rest, Villa will falter soon enough, but should hold onto 3rd.
After that, the standard is quite bad. Amorim had more than enough chances to nail down a top 4 spot this last month and never succeeded.

Sure I thought they're only a goalkeeper away from contending for the title   

It was a keeper and midfielder. If United had gotten Baleba or Wharton, they'd have a top 4 place nailed already.

I know you're taking the piss but they probably would be up around where Villa are with a proper midfield, when you look at all the silly points they dropped against poor teams

So it's only Man United that are allowed to count silly points dropped?
Could every team in the league not same the same thing?
Man United fans are hilarious.

Who's counting them? If you weren't trolling you be fit to see that yes a competent midfielder would have made a difference in a lot of those games, which is the original point.