Man Utd Thread:

[snoopdog]

If moyes had played smalling or vidic in the centre instead of Ferdinand then united would not have lost yesterday or at Anfield.
The guy is finished has been for a while, always ball watching. Admittedly a few more problems than just that, but united have been nothing special for the last few seasons, the main problem is the parasite Glazers.

[BennyCake]

I agree with supersub. RVP's goals did paper over the cracks last season, plus the rest of the teams were brutal. Fergie did well to win the title last year but he has left Moyes with a brutal squad.

Ferdinand, Vidic, Carrick are all past it.

Anderson, Nani, Young, Cleverley, De Gea, are not good enough. Never will be.

Jones, Smalling, Zaha, Evans, Welbeck are only squad players at best.

The only decent players United have is RVP, Rooney and Evra.

Fergie should've been looking ahead this last couple of years, getting proven replacements for Rio/Vidic, Scholes, Carrick, Valencia, VDS etc. This squad really is brutal. The worst I've ever known. While I admit Moyes isn't up to the job, this squad isn't helping his cause. United won't be back at the top for at least 5 or 6 years.

[Minder]

I actually think Moyes is doing well and Utd should be looking to give him a contract extension.

[Captain Obvious]

I think we're seeing how brilliant Fergie was. He could turn an average to good squad into champions by his presence on the sideline.

Or by buying the most inform goalscorer in the league to paper over the cracks for a season. RVP, not fergie, won utd the league last season with some vital goals and that is the reality. He hasnt been playing as much/in form so far this season and utd are struggling for goals.

In fairness they allotted the same number of points the season before Van Persie arrived and goal scoring wasn't a problem for Ferguson teams.

[Milltown Row2]

I think we're seeing how brilliant Fergie was. He could turn an average to good squad into champions by his presence on the sideline.

Or by buying the most inform goalscorer in the league to paper over the cracks for a season. RVP, not fergie, won utd the league last season with some vital goals and that is the reality. He hasnt been playing as much/in form so far this season and utd are struggling for goals.

I think Liverpool would settle for papering over the cracks for a season just to win the league, as would most clubs.

There is no doubt though that the league last year wasn't great.  This season City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal have improved their squads and that's why they have had a better start. Utd haven't bought anybody that will improve their squad, Moyes has inherited a squad, it isn't his, he's bought one player of note (jury still out) he will need time to work something, I doubt he'll get it though if the results continue, can see Fergie coming back lol

[laoislad]

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[supersub]

I think we're seeing how brilliant Fergie was. He could turn an average to good squad into champions by his presence on the sideline.

Or by buying the most inform goalscorer in the league to paper over the cracks for a season. RVP, not fergie, won utd the league last season with some vital goals and that is the reality. He hasnt been playing as much/in form so far this season and utd are struggling for goals.

In fairness they allotted the same number of points the season before Van Persie arrived and goal scoring wasn't a problem for Ferguson teams.

Yes and they didn't win the league that season, in fact lost it on goal difference, so he bought a proven goalscorer, who scored goals, and so they won the league despite the rest of the squad. So you have backed up my point, Van Persie's goals were the difference as without them they would have had less points than the season before. And I agree ferguson's teams never usually lacked goals, but RVP was badly needed last season hence why he bought him.

I think we're seeing how brilliant Fergie was. He could turn an average to good squad into champions by his presence on the sideline.

Or by buying the most inform goalscorer in the league to paper over the cracks for a season. RVP, not fergie, won utd the league last season with some vital goals and that is the reality. He hasnt been playing as much/in form so far this season and utd are struggling for goals.

I think Liverpool would settle for papering over the cracks for a season just to win the league, as would most clubs.

There is no doubt though that the league last year wasn't great.  This season City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal have improved their squads and that's why they have had a better start. Utd haven't bought anybody that will improve their squad, Moyes has inherited a squad, it isn't his, he's bought one player of note (jury still out) he will need time to work something, I doubt he'll get it though if the results continue, can see Fergie coming back lol

Yes I am sure they would, and would probably fill the cracks the following summer by adding more quality to the squad, which utd haven't done. This isn't a Utd v Liverpool or anyone else debate it is just a point about how RVP was so valuable to them last year and it is showing this season.

[EC Unique]

I think we're seeing how brilliant Fergie was. He could turn an average to good squad into champions by his presence on the sideline.

Or by buying the most inform goalscorer in the league to paper over the cracks for a season. RVP, not fergie, won utd the league last season with some vital goals and that is the reality. He hasnt been playing as much/in form so far this season and utd are struggling for goals.

In fairness they allotted the same number of points the season before Van Persie arrived and goal scoring wasn't a problem for Ferguson teams.

Yes and they didn't win the league that season, in fact lost it on goal difference, so he bought a proven goalscorer, who scored goals, and so they won the league despite the rest of the squad. So you have backed up my point, Van Persie's goals were the difference as without them they would have had less points than the season before. And I agree ferguson's teams never usually lacked goals, but RVP was badly needed last season hence why he bought him.

I think we're seeing how brilliant Fergie was. He could turn an average to good squad into champions by his presence on the sideline.

Or by buying the most inform goalscorer in the league to paper over the cracks for a season. RVP, not fergie, won utd the league last season with some vital goals and that is the reality. He hasnt been playing as much/in form so far this season and utd are struggling for goals.

I think Liverpool would settle for papering over the cracks for a season just to win the league, as would most clubs.

There is no doubt though that the league last year wasn't great.  This season City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal have improved their squads and that's why they have had a better start. Utd haven't bought anybody that will improve their squad, Moyes has inherited a squad, it isn't his, he's bought one player of note (jury still out) he will need time to work something, I doubt he'll get it though if the results continue, can see Fergie coming back lol

Yes I am sure they would, and would probably fill the cracks the following summer by adding more quality to the squad, which utd haven't done. This isn't a Utd v Liverpool or anyone else debate it is just a point about how RVP was so valuable to them last year and it is showing this season.

You def have a point regarding RVP but his contribution was not the difference in top of the league and 12th! The rest of the squad need to have a look at themselves and tighten the f*&k up!!

[The Worker]

Without Rvp utd will not be a top 4 team. Serious investment is needed in the squad over the next year.

[Milltown Row2]

I think we're seeing how brilliant Fergie was. He could turn an average to good squad into champions by his presence on the sideline.

Or by buying the most inform goalscorer in the league to paper over the cracks for a season. RVP, not fergie, won utd the league last season with some vital goals and that is the reality. He hasnt been playing as much/in form so far this season and utd are struggling for goals.

In fairness they allotted the same number of points the season before Van Persie arrived and goal scoring wasn't a problem for Ferguson teams.

Yes and they didn't win the league that season, in fact lost it on goal difference, so he bought a proven goalscorer, who scored goals, and so they won the league despite the rest of the squad. So you have backed up my point, Van Persie's goals were the difference as without them they would have had less points than the season before. And I agree ferguson's teams never usually lacked goals, but RVP was badly needed last season hence why he bought him.

I think we're seeing how brilliant Fergie was. He could turn an average to good squad into champions by his presence on the sideline.

Or by buying the most inform goalscorer in the league to paper over the cracks for a season. RVP, not fergie, won utd the league last season with some vital goals and that is the reality. He hasnt been playing as much/in form so far this season and utd are struggling for goals.

I think Liverpool would settle for papering over the cracks for a season just to win the league, as would most clubs.

There is no doubt though that the league last year wasn't great.  This season City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal have improved their squads and that's why they have had a better start. Utd haven't bought anybody that will improve their squad, Moyes has inherited a squad, it isn't his, he's bought one player of note (jury still out) he will need time to work something, I doubt he'll get it though if the results continue, can see Fergie coming back lol

Yes I am sure they would, and would probably fill the cracks the following summer by adding more quality to the squad, which utd haven't done. This isn't a Utd v Liverpool or anyone else debate it is just a point about how RVP was so valuable to them last year and it is showing this season.

RVN also done it, Cole to. Messi currently doing it for Barca and Ronaldo doing it for Real. That's how it works ffs

[ONeill]

Without Rvp utd will not be a top 4 team. Serious investment is needed in the squad over the next year.

Do Utd fans blame Fergie for that?

[Captain Obvious]

Yes and they didn't win the league that season, in fact lost it on goal difference, so he bought a proven goalscorer, who scored goals, and so they won the league despite the rest of the squad. So you have backed up my point, Van Persie's goals were the difference as without them they would have had less points than the season before. And I agree ferguson's teams never usually lacked goals, but RVP was badly needed last season hence why he bought him.

United could have won the league last season with seventy eight points, the points dropped by City,Chelsea last season was as much the reason and if Van Persie wasn't bought Ferguson would have given Rooney or Hernández a bigger role.

Under Moyes United will be lucky if they reach seventy points this season.

[laoislad]

Fergie knew well that the squad he was leaving behind wasn't good enough going forward and at his age he wasn't going to start rebuilding it. He was smart to retire when he did as he was going out at the top.

I think United will still finish top 4 and I think people are writing them off too soon for this season but I can't see them getting the same level of success over the next few years that they have been use to.

[BennyCake]

Definitely agree with your first point.

I think there are 4 better teams than United this season, so 5th place might be the best they get.