Irish neutrality

[jb77]

Please delete previous quotes from your quote PLEASE

[JoG2]

Please delete previous quotes from your quote PLEASE

Can't, and no idea how that happened, what would you have done with that extra half second scrolling is the question though?

[jb77]

Not even worth thinking about all the things I could have done 

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2025/12/12/stephen-collins-if-russia-decides-to-attack-the-eu-irelands-wide-open-back-door-may-give-it-a-way-in/?

The Commission on the Defence Forces, which reported to the Government in 2022, identified three levels of ambition. The first, to leave things as they were, was rejected on the basis the country would be left "without a credible military capability to protect Ireland, its people and its resources for any sustained period".
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The second level of ambition was to address some of the current deficiencies through a significant strengthening of cyber defence and military intelligence, as well as revitalising the Army Reserve. The Government committed itself to meeting these goals by 2028, but they now seem far too modest given the escalating threat.
The third level of ambition put forward by the Commission included the development of a substantial mechanised component of the army. It also called for a balanced fleet of at least 12 naval ships, supported by appropriate technology, the acquisition of a squadron of combat aircraft, a joint cyber-defence command and an expansion of the Army Ranger wing to include dedicated combat helicopter assets.
The emphasis on turning the army into an effective fighting force is key. At present, the Army Rangers are the only component of the Defence Forces fully trained for combat, but they are just about 150 strong and need to be expanded as a first step.
Ibec, in its report, rightly argued that the Government should move immediately to these level-three ambitions.

[Hand of God]

Will this Russian invasion be taking place before or after the men in white coats have arrived for Banks of the Bann?

[seafoid]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/12/11/nato-chief-prepare-for-war-with-russia/The West faces war with Russia on a scale not seen since the days of "our grandparents and great-grandparents", the head of Nato warned on Thursday.

Mark Rutte, the Nato secretary-general, said Vladimir Putin had chosen the alliance as his "next target", in some of his strongest warnings yet on the prospect of war spreading across Europe.

[Milltown Row2]

With Putins interview there, you'll not need an army so I wouldn't worry about arming it..

It'll be fast and deadly .. maybe that's the new reset that's needed

[Hand of God]

With Putins interview there, you'll not need an army so I wouldn't worry about arming it..

It'll be fast and deadly .. maybe that's the new reset that's needed

Fast and deadly? Like when Americans dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

[Milltown Row2]

With Putins interview there, you'll not need an army so I wouldn't worry about arming it..

It'll be fast and deadly .. maybe that's the new reset that's needed

Fast and deadly? Like when Americans dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

I hope so, would hate to be hanging around afterwards

[Banks of the Bann]

With Putins interview there, you'll not need an army so I wouldn't worry about arming it..

It'll be fast and deadly .. maybe that's the new reset that's needed

Let me guess - let us do what we want or we will nuke you all?

Yeah that's the same sabre they've been rattling for quite a while now.

[seafoid]

A nuclear attack by Russia is unlikely. Economic attack is more likely unless we have deterrence. There is no excuse with the budget surplus.

[johnnycool]

A nuclear attack by Russia is unlikely. Economic attack is more likely unless we have deterrence. There is no excuse with the budget surplus.

We should be investing in cyber security and if necessary for defence purposes.

But back to a question asked earlier, how many jets do we need?

Having three isn't worth my arse full of warm snow, we need at least 20 and a few nuclear warheads hidden in the bogs of Offaly and to come out of the ground like in thunderbirds.

[seafoid]

A nuclear attack by Russia is unlikely. Economic attack is more likely unless we have deterrence. There is no excuse with the budget surplus.

We should be investing in cyber security and if necessary for defence purposes.

But back to a question asked earlier, how many jets do we need?

Having three isn't worth my arse full of warm snow, we need at least 20 and a few nuclear warheads hidden in the bogs of Offaly and to come out of the ground like in thunderbirds.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2025/12/12/stephen-collins-if-russia-decides-to-attack-the-eu-irelands-wide-open-back-door-may-give-it-a-way-in/?The third level of ambition put forward by the Commission included the development of a substantial mechanised component of the army. It also called for a balanced fleet of at least 12 naval ships, supported by appropriate technology, the acquisition of a squadron of combat aircraft, a joint cyber-defence command and an expansion of the Army Ranger wing to include dedicated combat helicopter assets.


https://aerocorner.com/blog/how-many-planes-squadron/TLDR – Squadrons typically include between 12 and 24 aircraft, depending on the type of aircraft and the branch of the military. Land-based squadrons with heavy aircraft may have around 12 aircraft in a squadron. However, fighter units may have 18 to 24 aircraft.

[seafoid]

Here's the link to the Commission on the Defence Forces with the number of ships and airplanes

https://www.military.ie/en/public-information/publications/report-of-the-commission-on-defence-forces/

[Banks of the Bann]

A nuclear attack by Russia is unlikely. Economic attack is more likely unless we have deterrence. There is no excuse with the budget surplus.

We should be investing in cyber security and if necessary for defence purposes.

But back to a question asked earlier, how many jets do we need?

Having three isn't worth my arse full of warm snow, we need at least 20 and a few nuclear warheads hidden in the bogs of Offaly and to come out of the ground like in thunderbirds.

Do you think that aircraft that switch off their transponders and enter Irish airspace should be intercepted?