NFL Division 1 2024

[tyrone08]

Mickey continuing his excellent record against Dublin,Kerry and Mayo

He's already beaten Kerry this season.

Was a tongue in cheek joke. Harte has a few wins in league games over those teams but zero wins against those teams in championship football in over 12 years

[Wildweasel74]

What I learned after tonight is Tyrone people more say about it than Derry ones. Am happy enough to see what else is there, and we are light, still be enough at full strength for most.

[seafoid]

The Dublin defeat that really spooked Harte was the 2011 1/4 Final defeat. The Dubs kicked 0-22 and it could have been a lot more that day.

Since that match Dublin have won 9 all Irelands in 12 years. It is obscene.
The previous number of years needed for Dublin to collect nine all Irelands was 72 years, from 1923 to 1995

[Wildweasel74]

I go one better, the 4 teams who won  all-Ireland during Dublins dominance, 3 of them won by not having to play Dublin.Only Kerry 2 yrs ago managed to beat them on their way to an All-Ireland.

[bennydorano]

Derry folk will be pondering Hartes selection this evening. He effectively raised the white flag on Friday morning when news of a weakened team started to filter through. Dublin went from odds against to odds on with the bookmakers.
Rory G would never have done that, he'd have certainly started his strongest side and roared and kicked every ball on the sideline
Harte is a canny operator for sure, but his latter tenure with Tyrone was conservative and risk averse football. Tonight really resonated.
What advantage have Derry gained from lying down? Have they learnt much? I dunno. I doubt they've learnt anything at all
They will still in all likelihood have to play Dublin again in the league final, close to a crucial Ulster championship tie V Donegal. Does he play a shadow side again with an eye on Donegal?
With hindsight, how wise was it to rush Conor Glass and the other 2 Glen lads to play Kerry 6 days after winning an all Ireland final. Harte got lucky in that none of them picked up an injury
I believe Derry need to win their next league game, otherwise they've thrown form and momentum away, and league points in Division 1 are not straight forward

A repeat League final will be a conundrum for Mickey with Donegal waiting alrite. Big mis-step 2nite. The first seeds of doubt sewn.

[seafoid]

Not looking great for Roscommon who have Kerry and Derry in their last 2 matches

[tbrick18]

Dubs have peaked too soon.
They'll fade in the white hot heat of the leinster championship.
You win  nothing in march.

If derry had won thats what would have been said of them.

Positives for derry, mcevoy in full back with mcloskey and Baker is a really good option.
Gilmore can play chb against the best of them.
Bradley not atvthe races for mf against the dubs.
Murphy had glimpses of brilliance.
Downey struggled at half back.

That's some good learnings out if the game

It's all about championship.

[Gael85]

Mickey continuing his excellent record against Dublin,Kerry and Mayo

What's his record against Mayo? Not that great from my memory.

No championship win since 08?

[Wildweasel74]

Well if Derry beat Mayo, they put even a weaker team than tonight, out.

[gallsman]

Dubs have peaked too soon.
They'll fade in the white hot heat of the leinster championship.
You win  nothing in march.

If derry had won thats what would have been said of them.

Positives for derry, mcevoy in full back with mcloskey and Baker is a really good option.
Gilmore can play chb against the best of them.
Bradley not atvthe races for mf against the dubs.
Murphy had glimpses of brilliance.
Downey struggled at half back.

That's some good learnings out if the game

It's all about championship.

Downey didn't belong in the same galaxy as Kilkenny. You normally only ever see Kilkenny finishing off handy scores because of the work he gets through and his tightly he's parked but he seemed to have all the space he needed and was happy to take advantage of it and kick some longer points.

What do Derry ones make of McFaul at the minute? Looks desperately in need of a break to me as has been flat for a while. They're not maximizing his potential in the half forward line.

[Wildweasel74]

He been playing in defence at No.6 really in the past 2 games but he's needed at 11,

[Mikhailov]

Dubs have peaked too soon.
They'll fade in the white hot heat of the leinster championship.
You win  nothing in march.

If derry had won thats what would have been said of them.

Positives for derry, mcevoy in full back with mcloskey and Baker is a really good option.
Gilmore can play chb against the best of them.
Bradley not atvthe races for mf against the dubs.
Murphy had glimpses of brilliance.
Downey struggled at half back.

That's some good learnings out if the game

It's all about championship.

Downey didn't belong in the same galaxy as Kilkenny. You normally only ever see Kilkenny finishing off handy scores because of the work he gets through and his tightly he's parked but he seemed to have all the space he needed and was happy to take advantage of it and kick some longer points.

What do Derry ones make of McFaul at the minute? Looks desperately in need of a break to me as has been flat for a while. They're not maximizing his potential in the half forward line.

Not a Derry man by any stretch of the imagination but McFaul is quality, absolute quality. The question is where to play him to get the most benefit.

Glen needed him at 6, Derry don't as McEvoy / McKinless play that role but I feel McEvoy will be needed at 3 for McKaigue possibly.

McFaul at 11 is where Derry possibly need him to have maximum effect but he needs a few weeks away as he looks exhausted at the minute which is understandable.

[Mario]

McFaul has been good recently, hit a few wides tonight but he's had a good start to the season.

The same posters saying Derry bottled it were the ones outraged that we started the league with the Glen players. Mickey has played the league to perfection imo, pressure off after 4 games and able to rest players.

Dublin showed they are a level above tonight and if we are to stand any chance of beating them we need a full side out and everyone playing well.

[Wildweasel74]

Still think they should been more enticement to the likes of Ryan Dougan, M Warnock, C Bradley, J Doherty. Where they had a more physical size to offer something to the county team. We lost P McNeil and P Cassidy this year who had abit of height of the bench. We got 5 small men on the panel and that probably 3 too many. See D Higgins on the field but not on the 26, he injured?.

[tbrick18]

Dublin fully deserved the win and the scoreline probably flattered derry a bit.

Whilst I think it was good to give players their chance, I was disappointed with how we played. There seemed to be a lack of focus and intensity.

All that being said, I'd persist with this side for the remaining games and only revert to full strength in our last league game I  prep for championship.