NFL Division 1 2024

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Wildweasel74

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Drop off In form not what it was when u were playing to September. Sure County fball be over for near all in 4/5 months

ONeill

Since the '21 AI, this is Tyrone's record in league and championship.

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I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

An Watcher


JoG2

The grass isn't always greener

Aaron Boone

Quote from: ONeill on February 21, 2024, 10:39:03 PMSince the '21 AI, this is Tyrone's record in league and championship.

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It's dreadful stats but the team still remain in Div 1.

Hindsight tells us the 2021 Sam was the last kicks of a dying scorpion, but the young guns now have to dig in deep v Mayo on Saturday.

Division 1 is the place to be, even if "blooding young lads".

seafoid

Quote from: Aaron Boone on February 22, 2024, 12:42:00 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 21, 2024, 10:39:03 PMSince the '21 AI, this is Tyrone's record in league and championship.

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It's dreadful stats but the team still remain in Div 1.

Hindsight tells us the 2021 Sam was the last kicks of a dying scorpion, but the young guns now have to dig in deep v Mayo on Saturday.

Division 1 is the place to be, even if "blooding young lads".
Tyrone would have won an all Ireland before 2021 if the dubs hadn't been financially doped by the GAA.
2021 was the last chance saloon for the team and they took it. There are a lot worse situations than D1 mediocrity. Ask Down or Meath or Cork

Ball Hopper

If Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

armaghniac

Quote from: Ball Hopper on February 22, 2024, 04:55:13 AMIf Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

and much the same pattern in 2025!
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Ball Hopper on February 22, 2024, 04:55:13 AMIf Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

Dublin look like a team just happy enough to stay up and if they get within a point or two of Kerry this weekend they'll expect to beat them come championship time.

Kerry, Derry are two above others aiming to reach the league final. Will be interesting to see what shape Derry are in come the business end of the championship, All-Ireland winning manager on board however the mileage in legs of the Glen players are sure to show by then.

JoG2

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 22, 2024, 02:19:57 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on February 22, 2024, 04:55:13 AMIf Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

Dublin look like a team just happy enough to stay up and if they get within a point or two of Kerry this weekend they'll expect to beat them come championship time.

Kerry, Derry are two above others aiming to reach the league final. Will be interesting to see what shape Derry are in come the business end of the championship, All-Ireland winning manager on board however the mileage in legs of the Glen players are sure to show by then.

Do you not think, with the setups within County teams these days this isn't factored in? These extremely well conditioned athletes do not play more than 1 game in a week, then recover.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: JoG2 on February 22, 2024, 02:51:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 22, 2024, 02:19:57 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on February 22, 2024, 04:55:13 AMIf Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

Dublin look like a team just happy enough to stay up and if they get within a point or two of Kerry this weekend they'll expect to beat them come championship time.

Kerry, Derry are two above others aiming to reach the league final. Will be interesting to see what shape Derry are in come the business end of the championship, All-Ireland winning manager on board however the mileage in legs of the Glen players are sure to show by then.

Do you not think, with the setups within County teams these days this isn't factored in? These extremely well conditioned athletes do not play more than 1 game in a week, then recover.
All conditioning in the world doesn't make amateur footballers become robots. Glen players on the go non stop for club and county in the business end of competitions the last two years.

JoG2

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 22, 2024, 02:55:13 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on February 22, 2024, 02:51:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 22, 2024, 02:19:57 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on February 22, 2024, 04:55:13 AMIf Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

Dublin look like a team just happy enough to stay up and if they get within a point or two of Kerry this weekend they'll expect to beat them come championship time.

Kerry, Derry are two above others aiming to reach the league final. Will be interesting to see what shape Derry are in come the business end of the championship, All-Ireland winning manager on board however the mileage in legs of the Glen players are sure to show by then.

Do you not think, with the setups within County teams these days this isn't factored in? These extremely well conditioned athletes do not play more than 1 game in a week, then recover.
All conditioning in the world doesn't make amateur footballers become robots. Glen players on the go non stop for club and county in the business end of competitions the last two years.

What are you on about, robots?! A game a week, they're hardly going down the coal mines

Tyrone Dreamer

How many games are the Glen lads playing in a year? It's probably less than some of the UUJ players who played Sigerson and McKenna Cup matches? I know they got a break last year after the county season so I'm assuming they played no more than 10 games in the run out of Derry? Then 5 games to win the All Ireland?

Assuming they play the national league that's 8 maximum? 3 then in ulster and another 6 to get to All Ireland final?

So if Derry got to league and All Ireland final they'll have played 32 games in a year?

Mario

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Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 22, 2024, 02:19:57 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on February 22, 2024, 04:55:13 AMIf Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

Dublin look like a team just happy enough to stay up and if they get within a point or two of Kerry this weekend they'll expect to beat them come championship time.

Kerry, Derry are two above others aiming to reach the league final. Will be interesting to see what shape Derry are in come the business end of the championship, All-Ireland winning manager on board however the mileage in legs of the Glen players are sure to show by then.
Every team goes out to win every match. Every D1 team picks the strongest team they have available to them, maybe with the exception of Dublin who have rested a couple (i think). At the start of the year if you offered any D1 manager the chance to win all league games they would take it. So i always laugh at people saying 'aiming to reach a league final' or going all out for the league', they all are until they can't.

Glen got to an AI final last year too, Derry got to a league final, won a tough ulster champ, were still playing in July and lost the AI semi because they missed too many chances. It's more likely than not Derry won't win the AI, and there will be a queue of people lining up to blame their league form but it will have nothing to do with it. Players are capable of playing once a week in 3 week blocks. Sports science is there to manage training loads.

The season has changed now and games come thick and fast, you don't have a month between champ games to work on things. I'd much rather have momentum going into ulster and the group stages than hoping we miraculously find form in June/July.

Captain Obvious

Some counties main objective is staying up in Division 1 and anything else is a bonus. Kerry and Derry bringing back the Clifford brothers and Glen players back so soon is a clear message that their objective is to win the league title and then carry that form into the championship.

Harte has joined up with Derry to win the All-Ireland title and IMO they'll likely have a better chance of achieving that feat in 2025 should Glen get an early exit from the Derry or Ulster this autumn/winter.