NFL Division 1 2024

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Wildweasel74

Can't even see them meeting, Donegal might ping Derry,Monaghan might be favourites to beat Tyrone.

bennydorano

The league is the league and is the place for trying lads out but I thought Tyrone looked really young and inexperienced, definite whiff of a team that has a couple of years of frustration & rebuilding ahead of them.

NotedObserver

Quote from: bennydorano on February 04, 2024, 06:28:30 PMThe league is the league and is the place for trying lads out but I thought Tyrone looked really young and inexperienced, definite whiff of a team that has a couple of years of frustration & rebuilding ahead of them.

That's because they are?

Wildweasel74

They were well beat, and Derry weren't  much today, Just about average.Both teams must missed 15+pts combined, and Derry should had the ball in the net 3 times.

HiMucker

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 04, 2024, 05:47:40 PMDerry need sort out the right foot free taker, easy one missed today due to this, a man who can consistently  score 45, learn Conor McCloskey to actually shoot (He was in position to score 3 pts from close enough range)Reserve keeper nowhere near as good as Bradley from Glen as Back up.When McGuigan has a bad game he really does, no in-between. Derry still need a target man to slot in between McGuigan and Murphy.
Jesus WW you have to be one of the most negative supporters I've come across.

theticklemister

Quote from: HiMucker on February 04, 2024, 06:52:49 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 04, 2024, 05:47:40 PMDerry need sort out the right foot free taker, easy one missed today due to this, a man who can consistently  score 45, learn Conor McCloskey to actually shoot (He was in position to score 3 pts from close enough range)Reserve keeper nowhere near as good as Bradley from Glen as Back up.When McGuigan has a bad game he really does, no in-between. Derry still need a target man to slot in between McGuigan and Murphy.
Jesus WW you have to be one of the most negative supporters I've come across.

I've never said this before..........

But HiMucker is right

Wildweasel74

Not negative, can see what's in front of me!

Mario

#2587
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 04, 2024, 05:47:40 PMDerry need sort out the right foot free taker, easy one missed today due to this, a man who can consistently  score 45, learn Conor McCloskey to actually shoot (He was in position to score 3 pts from close enough range)Reserve keeper nowhere near as good as Bradley from Glen as Back up.When McGuigan has a bad game he really does, no in-between. Derry still need a target man to slot in between McGuigan and Murphy.
I'd say that's the first scoreable free McGuigan has missed this year. Toner has also hit a few from that side but doesn't always start

HiMucker

#2588
Shane McGuigan, all star footballer, probably in the top 3 forwards in the country misses a free, that he scores 19 times out of 20 and we suddenly need a left sided free taker? He's not handing that one over to anyone to hit. Plenty of boys there that could have knocked it over as well.

tbrick18

Derry cruised through that without really getting out of 2nd gear.
Conditions for shooting were awful, it was actually easier shooting into the terraced end than the changing room end, unless the ball went high. That end was fully sheltered from the wind at pitch level. So I wouldn't read much into all the wides for both teams.

The 2 canavans started that game dragging and pulling and fouling and got away with it and the umpires at the terrace end were awful.
Constantly shouting out at players. The disallowed goal was not out, man was over the end line but ball was in. I was right beside it. Goal should have stood. But our full back line totally snuffed them out.

Morgan made a terrific save from cassidy and I thought his kickouts were good, was prob in contention for tyrones best player. But in general, Tyrone were poor. None of their experienced players stood up in my opinion.

For Derry, I thought we dominated almost every position.
Mcloskey has improved since kerry.
Murphy looks a real talent. Paul cassidy much improved.
I thought Niall O had a terrific game, some work rate and tackling....mcfaul too.
We should have had about 3 more goals.

Biggest concern is injuries. Glass was hobbling. Lynch injured, looks like hamstring. Though Scullion did well when he came in. Mckinless I assume was injured too.

I'd guess another win and we'd mostly be safe, another 2 wins and should be guaranteed. So we're in a good position.
I'd like to see the Glen lads rested and I think we have enough strength in depth now to do that in the league.




NotedObserver

Thought the quality was few and far between today on both sides. Mcgrogan and Murphy's derrys stand out and Kennedy prob pick of them for Tyrone.

D canavan probably should have had 6 points with woeful shooting and although McCurry won any ball into him could tell his first game this year. Would have prob took a 6 point defeat at throw in but 2 points in 30 mins was a shocking return.

Silver hill

I thought scullion was nervous and doesn't look like a long term option as no.2. Jack Cassidy is untested at this level, has a booming kick out and is a natural footballer but a bit to go if he's going to go straight in to replace lynch in the short term.
 Niall Loughlin is a superb dead ball kicker so not sure what he's not hitting 45s and frees from the left.
Agree on clucker, needs to develop an end product on the end of all the good work he does. He gets into great positions with his pace.
Murphy was simply outstanding. A joy to see a forward looking to go direct. Scares the life out of defences. Mcfaul was good but needs to cut out the unnecessary ill discipline, cost us a couple of points today.
Tyrone's wides were horrendous, ok, derrys pressure was good on the shooters but at least 10 good point scoring chances were missed from decent positions.
Anyway, 4 points in the bag, pressure's off. Plenty to work on which is what you want.

Lamh Dhearg Alba

First half was positive enough for Tyrone. Very young team away against a settled outfit and with the wind against them, missed a couple of easy chances and all of a sudden 5 down and could easily have collapsed. Instead they worked their way back into it and the 3 point half time lead flattered Derry. Second half however was grim, totally lost their heads when the scores didn't come with the wind. You can put that down to lack of experience for sure, but it did happen a couple of times last season too which raises questions.

Overall though there are a number of very good young players who are looking like they can step up and a number of established players to come back in. Get the mix right and there's a right good team in there. Big question for me is do we have the management to pull that off.

tbrick18

Quote from: Lamh Dhearg Alba on February 04, 2024, 10:29:19 PMFirst half was positive enough for Tyrone. Very young team away against a settled outfit and with the wind against them, missed a couple of easy chances and all of a sudden 5 down and could easily have collapsed. Instead they worked their way back into it and the 3 point half time lead flattered Derry. Second half however was grim, totally lost their heads when the scores didn't come with the wind. You can put that down to lack of experience for sure, but it did happen a couple of times last season too which raises questions.

Overall though there are a number of very good young players who are looking like they can step up and a number of established players to come back in. Get the mix right and there's a right good team in there. Big question for me is do we have the management to pull that off.

Generally agree with that except for what you said about half time score.
I feel Derry could have easily been 8 or 9 ahead at half time. Took points when goals were begging.
Personally couldn't believe we were only 3 in front at half time.
Tyrone should have had a goal, good save from a shot that was saveable but a better forward would have nailed it.

Just watched the highlights and the glass goal did look deliberate. However, in real time it was a shot for a point I think and the wind caught it.

tbrick18

On a completely different note, has Sean Cavanagh had a bit of botox?