Would you manage versus your own

[trailer]

I think it is the biggest pile of virtue signalling shite. "Look how big a GAA man I am. Look I deep my love for Kilcoo goes."

I think it is an absolute pile of dung.

[toby47]

Ronan Mcguckin & Jerome Johnstone both played key roles in helping their clubs become the best club team in Ireland. Maybe their mindset, is an insight, into the thinking in both clubs. Maybe it should be commended? I don't see much wrong with it at all, especially as in both cases it had been agreed they wouldn't manage against their own club before they took roles with Ballybay/Errigal. Jerome will not be thought of any less around Ballybay. He helped win the club their first championship in 10 years and 2nd in 35 years, when he decides to move on from Ballybay, he will be remembered fondly, no doubt about it. Go to Errigal and speak to anyone about McGuckin, not a bad word spoken.

[themac_23]

I think it is the biggest pile of virtue signalling shite. "Look how big a GAA man I am. Look I deep my love for Kilcoo goes."

I think it is an absolute pile of dung.

This X2

[seafoid]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/gaelic-games/63558073

"I informed the players after the Crossmaglen game. It was emotional and I am torn"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV1XWJN3nJo

What is the big deal? If Kilcoo win the season is over.
If they don't he is back on Monday.

[yellowcard]

I understand why some people will take the opposite viewpoint but if I'm Ballybay I'm happy that he has made this decision. Some of it is simply borne out of an already inbuilt prejudice against Kilcoo and Johnson. I don't want a manager preparing for a match that isn't fully committed. And there is no doubt that Johnson can't be fully committed on Sunday given his family connections. How could he be? It's strange that the people most damning of him are neither from Kilcoo nor Ballybay where he is held in high esteem which tells you a lot.   

[JimStynes]

I think he is 110% right. He is going to upset a club one way or the other and it's a no win situation. But if it was me I definitely wouldn't want to upset my own club and rock up to the club having put his home club out of the championship. It's not soccer ffs. He still plays a big role in the club and literally most of his team are either nephews or sons. I can't believe the amount of people that are against his decision. We don't know what the agreement is between Ballybay and him either. It was maybe discussed at the start of the year that he would step aside if they meet.  There is no way I could manage against my own club.

Edit! Just read the article that he made it clear that he wouldn't manage against Kilcoo. That is on Ballybay then. If they were worried about it then they shouldn't have given him the job. He should be commended for it.

[Walter Cronc]

I think he is 110% right. He is going to upset a club one way or the other and it's a no win situation. But if it was me I definitely wouldn't want to upset my own club and rock up to the club having put his home club out of the championship. It's not soccer ffs. He still plays a big role in the club and literally most of his team are either nephews or sons. I can't believe the amount of people that are against his decision. We don't know what the agreement is between Ballybay and him either. It was maybe discussed at the start of the year that he would step aside if they meet.  There is no way I could manage against my own club.

Edit! Just read the article that he made it clear that he wouldn't manage against Kilcoo. That is on Ballybay then. If they were worried about it then they shouldn't have given him the job. He should be commended for it.

Its not soccer? Assume you mean professional sport?

[seafoid]

I think he is 110% right. He is going to upset a club one way or the other and it's a no win situation. But if it was me I definitely wouldn't want to upset my own club and rock up to the club having put his home club out of the championship. It's not soccer ffs. He still plays a big role in the club and literally most of his team are either nephews or sons. I can't believe the amount of people that are against his decision. We don't know what the agreement is between Ballybay and him either. It was maybe discussed at the start of the year that he would step aside if they meet.  There is no way I could manage against my own club.

Edit! Just read the article that he made it clear that he wouldn't manage against Kilcoo. That is on Ballybay then. If they were worried about it then they shouldn't have given him the job. He should be commended for it.

What were the chances of Ballybay meeting Kilcoo when he took the job ? Their previous title was 2012

[Milltown Row2]

If you are willing to put yourself on the market for managing up and down the country then you should also be prepared to manage against your own club, if not then don't do it, as most managers will be looking to win their championships the reality is that this could and has happened.

He'd be getting his P45, though the club did (if I'm hearing right) agree to that scenario?  Then more fool them for not having the aspirations of meeting teams like the All Ireland champions at some point

[JimStynes]

I think he is 110% right. He is going to upset a club one way or the other and it's a no win situation. But if it was me I definitely wouldn't want to upset my own club and rock up to the club having put his home club out of the championship. It's not soccer ffs. He still plays a big role in the club and literally most of his team are either nephews or sons. I can't believe the amount of people that are against his decision. We don't know what the agreement is between Ballybay and him either. It was maybe discussed at the start of the year that he would step aside if they meet.  There is no way I could manage against my own club.

Edit! Just read the article that he made it clear that he wouldn't manage against Kilcoo. That is on Ballybay then. If they were worried about it then they shouldn't have given him the job. He should be commended for it.

Its not soccer? Assume you mean professional sport?

No I mean in the sense that you don't have the emotional attachment for a soccer club that you do for a gaelic club. Sure boys transfer around the local soccer clubs every year. As I said, it's on Ballybay, he made his feelings clear when he took the job, if they weren't happy with it then they shouldn't have given him the job.

[Walter Cronc]

I think he is 110% right. He is going to upset a club one way or the other and it's a no win situation. But if it was me I definitely wouldn't want to upset my own club and rock up to the club having put his home club out of the championship. It's not soccer ffs. He still plays a big role in the club and literally most of his team are either nephews or sons. I can't believe the amount of people that are against his decision. We don't know what the agreement is between Ballybay and him either. It was maybe discussed at the start of the year that he would step aside if they meet.  There is no way I could manage against my own club.

Edit! Just read the article that he made it clear that he wouldn't manage against Kilcoo. That is on Ballybay then. If they were worried about it then they shouldn't have given him the job. He should be commended for it.

Its not soccer? Assume you mean professional sport?

No I mean in the sense that you don't have the emotional attachment for a soccer club that you do for a gaelic club. Sure boys transfer around the local soccer clubs every year. As I said, it's on Ballybay, he made his feelings clear when he took the job, if they weren't happy with it then they shouldn't have given him the job.

Ah lad stop. I'm no soccer fan but let's not assume the GAA is holier than holy!

[oakleaflad]

I think he is 110% right. He is going to upset a club one way or the other and it's a no win situation. But if it was me I definitely wouldn't want to upset my own club and rock up to the club having put his home club out of the championship. It's not soccer ffs. He still plays a big role in the club and literally most of his team are either nephews or sons. I can't believe the amount of people that are against his decision. We don't know what the agreement is between Ballybay and him either. It was maybe discussed at the start of the year that he would step aside if they meet.  There is no way I could manage against my own club.

Edit! Just read the article that he made it clear that he wouldn't manage against Kilcoo. That is on Ballybay then. If they were worried about it then they shouldn't have given him the job. He should be commended for it.

Thing is, I don't think it's 'on' anybody. I haven't seen anyone from Ballybay or Kilcoo complaining about it. It's an interesting topic to debate for sure but this one seems to be ok with the clubs involved. Should be an interesting game.

[JimStynes]

I think he is 110% right. He is going to upset a club one way or the other and it's a no win situation. But if it was me I definitely wouldn't want to upset my own club and rock up to the club having put his home club out of the championship. It's not soccer ffs. He still plays a big role in the club and literally most of his team are either nephews or sons. I can't believe the amount of people that are against his decision. We don't know what the agreement is between Ballybay and him either. It was maybe discussed at the start of the year that he would step aside if they meet.  There is no way I could manage against my own club.

Edit! Just read the article that he made it clear that he wouldn't manage against Kilcoo. That is on Ballybay then. If they were worried about it then they shouldn't have given him the job. He should be commended for it.

Its not soccer? Assume you mean professional sport?

No I mean in the sense that you don't have the emotional attachment for a soccer club that you do for a gaelic club. Sure boys transfer around the local soccer clubs every year. As I said, it's on Ballybay, he made his feelings clear when he took the job, if they weren't happy with it then they shouldn't have given him the job.

Ah lad stop. I'm no soccer fan but let's not assume the GAA is holier than holy!

What do you mean?

[trailer]

I think he is 110% right. He is going to upset a club one way or the other and it's a no win situation. But if it was me I definitely wouldn't want to upset my own club and rock up to the club having put his home club out of the championship. It's not soccer ffs. He still plays a big role in the club and literally most of his team are either nephews or sons. I can't believe the amount of people that are against his decision. We don't know what the agreement is between Ballybay and him either. It was maybe discussed at the start of the year that he would step aside if they meet.  There is no way I could manage against my own club.

Edit! Just read the article that he made it clear that he wouldn't manage against Kilcoo. That is on Ballybay then. If they were worried about it then they shouldn't have given him the job. He should be commended for it.

Its not soccer? Assume you mean professional sport?

No I mean in the sense that you don't have the emotional attachment for a soccer club that you do for a gaelic club. Sure boys transfer around the local soccer clubs every year. As I said, it's on Ballybay, he made his feelings clear when he took the job, if they weren't happy with it then they shouldn't have given him the job.

Ah lad stop. I'm no soccer fan but let's not assume the GAA is holier than holy!

What do you mean?

Is JJ getting paid do you think?

[JimStynes]

I think he is 110% right. He is going to upset a club one way or the other and it's a no win situation. But if it was me I definitely wouldn't want to upset my own club and rock up to the club having put his home club out of the championship. It's not soccer ffs. He still plays a big role in the club and literally most of his team are either nephews or sons. I can't believe the amount of people that are against his decision. We don't know what the agreement is between Ballybay and him either. It was maybe discussed at the start of the year that he would step aside if they meet.  There is no way I could manage against my own club.

Edit! Just read the article that he made it clear that he wouldn't manage against Kilcoo. That is on Ballybay then. If they were worried about it then they shouldn't have given him the job. He should be commended for it.

Its not soccer? Assume you mean professional sport?

No I mean in the sense that you don't have the emotional attachment for a soccer club that you do for a gaelic club. Sure boys transfer around the local soccer clubs every year. As I said, it's on Ballybay, he made his feelings clear when he took the job, if they weren't happy with it then they shouldn't have given him the job.

Ah lad stop. I'm no soccer fan but let's not assume the GAA is holier than holy!

What do you mean?

Is JJ getting paid do you think?

Of course. But not for the next few weeks anyway! If Ballybay weren't happy they shouldn't have given the job!