Diesel, petrol, oil price watch

[Armagh18]

what is the best way to persuade governments to cut tax on fuel?

Raise it with your local TD, hold a town hall, social media is a completely free platform if they want to use that.

Blocking ambulances is just throwing the dummy out of the pram because you aren't getting your way.
Great to see people driving up the hard shoulder to get around these fools.
Looking at the protests I'm not even sure it's about the price of fuel anymore.

f**k me yeah that'll help the thing....

Did you miss the bit where tax was reduced? We can argue how much or how quickly it was happening, but they were moving on it.

Do you honestly think this is about fuel?

Tax was reduced but wtf good did it do? Diesel still over €2.20 and is on the brink of £2 in the north.

It's obviously about fuel but there's plenty more wrong with the country and fuel is the spark that can unite the vast majority.

[Rossfan]

Protest in fkn Washington and Tel Aviv then.

[Captain Scarlet]

The issue could unite the country as we all feel it in our bills, but what the breakaway groups are doing clearly divides opinions.

You won't unite people by pissing people off with lads go on solo runs. They could blockade O'Connell St, all Govt buildings and that is a solid protest that would get as much attention.

But they have no control over their own crew and they lost me when they started actively blocking bus diversions. What does that gain? You already have locked down the main street in the capital city, but people could still get around it, so they stop that. How is that going to unite people?

[RedHand88]

what is the best way to persuade governments to cut tax on fuel?

Raise it with your local TD, hold a town hall, social media is a completely free platform if they want to use that.

Blocking ambulances is just throwing the dummy out of the pram because you aren't getting your way.
Great to see people driving up the hard shoulder to get around these fools.
Looking at the protests I'm not even sure it's about the price of fuel anymore.

f**k me yeah that'll help the thing....

Did you miss the bit where tax was reduced? We can argue how much or how quickly it was happening, but they were moving on it.

Do you honestly think this is about fuel?

Tax was reduced but wtf good did it do? Diesel still over €2.20 and is on the brink of £2 in the north.

It's obviously about fuel but there's plenty more wrong with the country and fuel is the spark that can unite the vast majority.

So it's not just about fuel? What are people blocking the road over? Just any grievance they have?
This is reminiscent of the Belfast fleg protests in 2012.

[BigGreenField]

what is the best way to persuade governments to cut tax on fuel?

Raise it with your local TD, hold a town hall, social media is a completely free platform if they want to use that.

Blocking ambulances is just throwing the dummy out of the pram because you aren't getting your way.
Great to see people driving up the hard shoulder to get around these fools.
Looking at the protests I'm not even sure it's about the price of fuel anymore.

f**k me yeah that'll help the thing....

Did you miss the bit where tax was reduced? We can argue how much or how quickly it was happening, but they were moving on it.

Do you honestly think this is about fuel?

Tax was reduced but wtf good did it do? Diesel still over €2.20 and is on the brink of £2 in the north.

It's obviously about fuel but there's plenty more wrong with the country and fuel is the spark that can unite the vast majority.

So it's not just about fuel? What are people blocking the road over? Just any grievance they have?
This is reminiscent of the Belfast fleg protests in 2012.

A lot of the same dickheads and social media accounts that fanned the immigration  riots, all they want is chaos and they give less than two craps about anyones struggles with oil prices.

[Milltown Row2]

Stop annoying the public and sit outside the TD's offices and homes with your trucks and tractors and annoy them

[Baile Brigín 2]

what is the best way to persuade governments to cut tax on fuel?

Raise it with your local TD, hold a town hall, social media is a completely free platform if they want to use that.

Blocking ambulances is just throwing the dummy out of the pram because you aren't getting your way.
Great to see people driving up the hard shoulder to get around these fools.
Looking at the protests I'm not even sure it's about the price of fuel anymore.

f**k me yeah that'll help the thing....

Did you miss the bit where tax was reduced? We can argue how much or how quickly it was happening, but they were moving on it.

Do you honestly think this is about fuel?

Tax was reduced but wtf good did it do? Diesel still over €2.20 and is on the brink of £2 in the north.

It's obviously about fuel but there's plenty more wrong with the country and fuel is the spark that can unite the vast majority.

So it isn't just about fuel. It's a broader movement using fuel to agitate over a whinge list.

That's fine. But be up front.

[Baile Brigín 2]

I agree with protesting but there are a lot of chiefs on this one and there are plenty of lads going rogue and doing their own thing.

On Liveline a woman was saying how the hard shoulder down around Waterford (I think) was blocked and the protester said it wasn't and then said it shouldn't have happened. He was stopping just short of calling her a liar but he was in Dublin and could have no clue what another group have done.
The same man said he had to sleep in his tractor as it wasn't safe to leave it unattended. It cost €250,000 he told us!

I lost them yesterday when they blocked the diversion routes for busses. Like you have the blockade on O'Connell St, so why then shut down all public transport?

Also these lads are mostly farming contractors, so not the poor aul farmers that they are painting themselves as. If other people were blocking roads at the height of silage season they'd drive over them!

They should encircle the Dáil and every county council in the country.

What can the councils do?

[armaghniac]

BB2, I would say blocking any and all traffic (exceptions for ambulances obviously) is a valid form of protest. Not sure how else the government will pay any heed.

Protesting is making your point in public. Blocking roads is simply coercion, they have no right whatsoever to involve third parties.

what is the best way to persuade governments to cut tax on fuel?

Vote for a party that has that a policy, if they win then they will be the government. But the majority of people do not want to cut the price of fuel in general, so you might be out of luck.

[Armagh18]

what is the best way to persuade governments to cut tax on fuel?

Raise it with your local TD, hold a town hall, social media is a completely free platform if they want to use that.

Blocking ambulances is just throwing the dummy out of the pram because you aren't getting your way.
Great to see people driving up the hard shoulder to get around these fools.
Looking at the protests I'm not even sure it's about the price of fuel anymore.

f**k me yeah that'll help the thing....

Did you miss the bit where tax was reduced? We can argue how much or how quickly it was happening, but they were moving on it.

Do you honestly think this is about fuel?

Tax was reduced but wtf good did it do? Diesel still over €2.20 and is on the brink of £2 in the north.

It's obviously about fuel but there's plenty more wrong with the country and fuel is the spark that can unite the vast majority.

So it isn't just about fuel. It's a broader movement using fuel to agitate over a whinge list.

That's fine. But be up front.

Thats some f**king take.

[Armagh18]

BB2, I would say blocking any and all traffic (exceptions for ambulances obviously) is a valid form of protest. Not sure how else the government will pay any heed.

Protesting is making your point in public. Blocking roads is simply coercion, they have no right whatsoever to involve third parties.

what is the best way to persuade governments to cut tax on fuel?

Vote for a party that has that a policy, if they win then they will be the government. But the majority of people do not want to cut the price of fuel in general, so you might be out of luck.

[/b] what?

[Louther]

If people stopped reading social media and spending time online to be told they never had it so bad and should be miserable, they might actually find they could enjoy themselves plenty.

[Baile Brigín 2]

what is the best way to persuade governments to cut tax on fuel?

Raise it with your local TD, hold a town hall, social media is a completely free platform if they want to use that.

Blocking ambulances is just throwing the dummy out of the pram because you aren't getting your way.
Great to see people driving up the hard shoulder to get around these fools.
Looking at the protests I'm not even sure it's about the price of fuel anymore.

f**k me yeah that'll help the thing....

Did you miss the bit where tax was reduced? We can argue how much or how quickly it was happening, but they were moving on it.

Do you honestly think this is about fuel?

Tax was reduced but wtf good did it do? Diesel still over €2.20 and is on the brink of £2 in the north.

It's obviously about fuel but there's plenty more wrong with the country and fuel is the spark that can unite the vast majority.

So it isn't just about fuel. It's a broader movement using fuel to agitate over a whinge list.

That's fine. But be up front.

Thats some f**king take.

You need to keep up. The tricolour mob have showed up and been let be involved. Paul Murphy got abused and chased. This is now a wishlist of garbled anger

[Baile Brigín 2]

BB2, I would say blocking any and all traffic (exceptions for ambulances obviously) is a valid form of protest. Not sure how else the government will pay any heed.

Protesting is making your point in public. Blocking roads is simply coercion, they have no right whatsoever to involve third parties.

what is the best way to persuade governments to cut tax on fuel?

Vote for a party that has that a policy, if they win then they will be the government. But the majority of people do not want to cut the price of fuel in general, so you might be out of luck.

[/b] what?

His point is obvious. FFG tax fuel. Heavily. FFG have never not been in government. If cheaper juice was a massive vote winner we would have it.

Normal folk understand the price shot up because one bunch of mad f**kers attacked another group of mad f**kers, so refusing to let ambulances fix people isn't really adding to political discourse

[tyroneStatto]

BB2, I would say blocking any and all traffic (exceptions for ambulances obviously) is a valid form of protest. Not sure how else the government will pay any heed.

Protesting is making your point in public. Blocking roads is simply coercion, they have no right whatsoever to involve third parties.

what is the best way to persuade governments to cut tax on fuel?

Vote for a party that has that a policy, if they win then they will be the government. But the majority of people do not want to cut the price of fuel in general, so you might be out of luck.

How do you work that out? Must be some amount of folk then sitting pretty with loads of disposable income.