GaaGo

Started by gortnaleck, February 26, 2022, 08:16:59 PM

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bennydorano

Creating a Monopoly is never healthy and that looks like what they are trying to do, with an eye to maximising the price gouging no doubt. I hope RTE have the right to refuse the buy out and do so. Gaago is the devil's spawn.

dec

The GAA's expertise is in running a sport, not running a streaming platform. I would prefer if they kept a TV company involved. I watch in the US and the picture quality I get from GAAGO, although watchable, is not as good as any of the other sports streaming I watch.

RedHand88

Quote from: bennydorano on December 18, 2024, 07:26:50 PMCreating a Monopoly is never healthy and that looks like what they are trying to do, with an eye to maximising the price gouging no doubt. I hope RTE have the right to refuse the buy out and do so. Gaago is the devil's spawn.

Why?

thewobbler

In my experience, monopolies for televised sport are a rare example of monopolies benefitting consumers.

bennydorano


Quote from: thewobbler on December 18, 2024, 10:05:28 PMIn my experience, monopolies for televised sport are a rare example of monopolies benefitting consumers.

I'm struggling to think of any such example in any sport?

If GAAGO becomes the sole rights holder of GAA, we only have behind a paywall provider, how is that a benefit to anyone? Do we just have to hope they will LET a terrestrial TV provider show some matches?

thewobbler

Quote from: bennydorano on December 18, 2024, 10:54:59 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on December 18, 2024, 10:05:28 PMIn my experience, monopolies for televised sport are a rare example of monopolies benefitting consumers.

I'm struggling to think of any such example in any sport?

If GAAGO becomes the sole rights holder of GAA, we only have behind a paywall provider, how is that a benefit to anyone? Do we just have to hope they will LET a terrestrial TV provider show some matches?

It's around £500pm for our club to enjoy showing Sky TV. And yet most of the PL games in December are unavailable to us.

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I'm thinking that a paywall system is inevitable if we aspire to blanket coverage. There's just not the room/interest for free to air to cover entire championships.

Only having one paywall is much more preferable than having multiple. Even more so again if the purpose of that provider generating a profit is to reinvest it in the sport.




Armagh18

Or 0 paywalls would be ideal...

thewobbler

Quote from: Armagh18 on December 18, 2024, 11:29:21 PMOr 0 paywalls would be ideal...
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 18, 2024, 11:29:21 PMOr 0 paywalls would be ideal...

I agree.

But I'd guess (I don't have figures) that the majority of "tier 2 and below" games provided on a free to air platform, it produced in any sort of professional manner, would lose money on their broadcast.

The majority tier 1 games will - I assume - always be on free to air platforms. If we want to watch the rest of them from our living rooms, surely the least we can do is help the platform break even?

Captain Scarlet

Quote from: dec on December 18, 2024, 07:36:19 PMThe GAA's expertise is in running a sport, not running a streaming platform. I would prefer if they kept a TV company involved. I watch in the US and the picture quality I get from GAAGO, although watchable, is not as good as any of the other sports streaming I watch.

As it stands the service can be dodgy.
The TV companies are all hired in so RTÉ mostly provide the talent and they are skint so you still get some games with no real analysis.

The GAA could just hire in all these outside broadcasting crews to do it and sell on what they want just like UEFA.

I think the URC is all done by a company and the broadcaster just plugs in.

But where does all this sit with game promotion?

Also it simply wasn't true when the claims were that they didn't cherry pick games.

Say what you want when Sky came in but they were open and honest about wanting to make money and their coverage was top notch.
them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

Joeythelips

The GAA should come up with new central membership scheme. So instead of paying a membership fee each year to your club you would sign up via GAA.

There would be different types of membership packages but by being a GAA member you get the subscription to GAA Go included (if desired, cheaper version if you dont). Part of the fee goes directly to the subscribers chosen club, given clubs have large diasporas abroad this could be very beneficial financially to clubs and the GAA as a whole. For example I live abroad and have no real link to my club but if I wanted to view GAA Go and could support my old club at the same time Id be glad to do so. 

I also think RTE waste a lot of money on analysis and interviews, I think a Commentator and co-commentator are fine for each game, Clubber do this and it works reasonably well.

bennydorano

On its own GAAGO is a decent package,  for the casual fan its probably ideal, ONE of my issues with it is it's contribution to the accumulative cost of following GAA. Like a lot of GAA people I have Cairde memberships, pay my grown up kids club (& Uni) membership fees, follow the club Seniors, Bs and minors, school games and buy regular games on Armagh TV (& Club Championship passes) then there's buying kits & Tops - that is all before i even get to County games! All my own choice I freely acknowledge but still..  At a conservative estimate the GAA costs me a couple of grand per year. GAAGO is another bill at the end of the day - one that was free of charge until recently.

RedHand88

Quote from: bennydorano on December 19, 2024, 02:06:38 PMOn its own GAAGO is a decent package,  for the casual fan its probably ideal, ONE of my issues with it is it's contribution to the accumulative cost of following GAA. Like a lot of GAA people I have Cairde memberships, pay my grown up kids club (& Uni) membership fees, follow the club Seniors, Bs and minors, school games and buy regular games on Armagh TV (& Club Championship passes) then there's buying kits & Tops - that is all before i even get to County games! All my own choice I freely acknowledge but still..  At a conservative estimate the GAA costs me a couple of grand per year. GAAGO is another bill at the end of the day - one that was free of charge until recently.

But the number of games being shown now has increased. The vast majority of games shown exclusively on GAAGo were never shown until they came along.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: RedHand88 on December 19, 2024, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on December 19, 2024, 02:06:38 PMOn its own GAAGO is a decent package,  for the casual fan its probably ideal, ONE of my issues with it is it's contribution to the accumulative cost of following GAA. Like a lot of GAA people I have Cairde memberships, pay my grown up kids club (& Uni) membership fees, follow the club Seniors, Bs and minors, school games and buy regular games on Armagh TV (& Club Championship passes) then there's buying kits & Tops - that is all before i even get to County games! All my own choice I freely acknowledge but still..  At a conservative estimate the GAA costs me a couple of grand per year. GAAGO is another bill at the end of the day - one that was free of charge until recently.

But the number of games being shown now has increased. The vast majority of games shown exclusively on GAAGo were never shown until they came along.

Is it a private company? do any of the funds go back into the GAA?

I've no problems with the association with regards to the cost of things (within reason) as this (hopefully) is being used to cover the costs for things that we use or expect when we go and watch our games and the coaches at club/county and other levels that look after them need supported
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

johnnycool

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 19, 2024, 02:50:38 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on December 19, 2024, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on December 19, 2024, 02:06:38 PMOn its own GAAGO is a decent package,  for the casual fan its probably ideal, ONE of my issues with it is it's contribution to the accumulative cost of following GAA. Like a lot of GAA people I have Cairde memberships, pay my grown up kids club (& Uni) membership fees, follow the club Seniors, Bs and minors, school games and buy regular games on Armagh TV (& Club Championship passes) then there's buying kits & Tops - that is all before i even get to County games! All my own choice I freely acknowledge but still..  At a conservative estimate the GAA costs me a couple of grand per year. GAAGO is another bill at the end of the day - one that was free of charge until recently.

But the number of games being shown now has increased. The vast majority of games shown exclusively on GAAGo were never shown until they came along.

Is it a private company? do any of the funds go back into the GAA?

I've no problems with the association with regards to the cost of things (within reason) as this (hopefully) is being used to cover the costs for things that we use or expect when we go and watch our games and the coaches at club/county and other levels that look after them need supported

50% owned by the GAA so I'd expect 50% of the profit to go back into the GAA.

They've put it out to tender I believe so lets see who wants to take it up.


seafoid

Maybe the GAA have a different partner in mind.