Ghislaine Maxwell found guilty

[seafoid]

The trial only covered abuse, not sex blackmail.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/31/ghislaine-maxwells-doomed-love-drove-toxic-tale-abuse-power/ 



The intelligence angle is essential to understanding Maxwell and her activities alongside Epstein, particularly the sexual blackmail motive, which was the end goal of their procuring and abusing of minors. Intelligence agencies have used sex blackmail since at least the 40s.

[johnnycool]

The trial only covered abuse, not sex blackmail.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/31/ghislaine-maxwells-doomed-love-drove-toxic-tale-abuse-power/ 



The intelligence angle is essential to understanding Maxwell and her activities alongside Epstein, particularly the sexual blackmail motive, which was the end goal of their procuring and abusing of minors. Intelligence agencies have used sex blackmail since at least the 40s.

I genuinely believe that Mossad are in on this and used Maxwell and Epstein to snare as many US politicians, celebs etc etc to hold sway on the Israel question...

[tiempo]

The trial only covered abuse, not sex blackmail.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/31/ghislaine-maxwells-doomed-love-drove-toxic-tale-abuse-power/ 



The intelligence angle is essential to understanding Maxwell and her activities alongside Epstein, particularly the sexual blackmail motive, which was the end goal of their procuring and abusing of minors. Intelligence agencies have used sex blackmail since at least the 40s.

I genuinely believe that Mossad are in on this and used Maxwell and Epstein to snare as many US politicians, celebs etc etc to hold sway on the Israel question...

Read a good piece that the photo in Central Park showing Epstein and PA was staged by Epstein to ensure he had his hooks in PA from every conceivable angle. And as you say, who better to entrap and then use as leverage on the Israel question than the British monarchy.

[seafoid]

The trial only covered abuse, not sex blackmail.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/31/ghislaine-maxwells-doomed-love-drove-toxic-tale-abuse-power/ 



The intelligence angle is essential to understanding Maxwell and her activities alongside Epstein, particularly the sexual blackmail motive, which was the end goal of their procuring and abusing of minors. Intelligence agencies have used sex blackmail since at least the 40s.

I genuinely believe that Mossad are in on this and used Maxwell and Epstein to snare as many US politicians, celebs etc etc to hold sway on the Israel question...

I do too.
Maxwell, Epstein and Wexner, source of Epstein's fortune, were all Jewish. Maybe Epstein blackmailed Wexner.
I think so far only the surface has been skimmed.

[seafoid]

https://unherd.com/2022/01/we-all-enabled-ghislaine-maxwell/The conviction of Ghislaine Maxwell has divided feminists. I don't know any who would suggest she is innocent. But there are those who would argue she was nothing but a handmaiden, coerced and abused by Jeffrey Epstein into luring those poor girls to be raped and prostituted. Others say she is both victim and perpetrator, and that her behaviour was a direct result of being sexually abused by her father, the late Robert Maxwell.

My take is pretty straightforward. Yes, there is evidence to suggest she was abused by her father, and it is clear that Epstein had a certain level of power and control over her. But Maxwell is a woman with immense privilege and power of her own. She was not convicted for associating with Epstein, she was convicted for procuring young women into prostitution. There is nothing of the victim about Maxwell.

She was corrupted by her own power. She wasn't just a "daddy pleaser" who transferred her subservience to Epstein as a replacement for her father. She was an agent in her own downfall; she used her wealth and class superiority to outsource abuse. Maxwell had scant respect for her victims: during the trial, we heard how she would refer to the poor, barely educated, vulnerable young women as "scum". It's all grimly reminiscent of what happened during the grooming gang cases in England, where the girls were viewed as "troublesome slags" who had "chosen" a lifestyle of prostitution.

[seafoid]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/01/06/prince-andrew-has-not-ruled-pay-off-virginia-roberts-giuffre/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

The Duke of York has not ruled out making a financial settlement with his accuser in order to avoid further damaging the reputation of the Royal family, The Telegraph understands.

A potential pay-off for Virginia Roberts Giuffre could be "at least" several-million pounds and would be paid by his mother, the Queen.

If the Duke fails in his bid to get the sexual abuse case thrown out, an argument largely based on a 2009 settlement deal Ms Giuffre struck with Jeffrey Epstein, it will underline the severity of the uphill battle he would face in continuing to fight the legal action.

Those close to him privately acknowledge that the judge's comments during a "brutal" 75-minute hearing this week made very clear to which side he was leaning on the motion to dismiss.

The next step is a potentially very exposing discovery process, in which the Duke will have to give sworn testimony under oath, before a trial, scheduled for the autumn, which could land further devastating blows to his reputation, as well as that of the monarchy.

[tiempo]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/01/06/prince-andrew-has-not-ruled-pay-off-virginia-roberts-giuffre/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

The Duke of York has not ruled out making a financial settlement with his accuser in order to avoid further damaging the reputation of the Royal family, The Telegraph understands.

A potential pay-off for Virginia Roberts Giuffre could be "at least" several-million pounds and would be paid by his mother, the Queen.

If the Duke fails in his bid to get the sexual abuse case thrown out, an argument largely based on a 2009 settlement deal Ms Giuffre struck with Jeffrey Epstein, it will underline the severity of the uphill battle he would face in continuing to fight the legal action.

Those close to him privately acknowledge that the judge's comments during a "brutal" 75-minute hearing this week made very clear to which side he was leaning on the motion to dismiss.

The next step is a potentially very exposing discovery process, in which the Duke will have to give sworn testimony under oath, before a trial, scheduled for the autumn, which could land further devastating blows to his reputation, as well as that of the monarchy.

They're fucked either way and good enough for them too. Go to court get convicted and its the beginning of the end for the British monarchy, pay the lass off and it'll be read as an admission of guilt, same road, the direction of travel is set for these scumbags. When QEII pops her clogs it'll slowly unravel to dissolution, unless the Great British public are prepared to endorse a Pedo family as head of state, wouldn't put it past them.

[JoG2]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/01/06/prince-andrew-has-not-ruled-pay-off-virginia-roberts-giuffre/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

The Duke of York has not ruled out making a financial settlement with his accuser in order to avoid further damaging the reputation of the Royal family, The Telegraph understands.

A potential pay-off for Virginia Roberts Giuffre could be "at least" several-million pounds and would be paid by his mother, the Queen.

If the Duke fails in his bid to get the sexual abuse case thrown out, an argument largely based on a 2009 settlement deal Ms Giuffre struck with Jeffrey Epstein, it will underline the severity of the uphill battle he would face in continuing to fight the legal action.

Those close to him privately acknowledge that the judge's comments during a "brutal" 75-minute hearing this week made very clear to which side he was leaning on the motion to dismiss.

The next step is a potentially very exposing discovery process, in which the Duke will have to give sworn testimony under oath, before a trial, scheduled for the autumn, which could land further devastating blows to his reputation, as well as that of the monarchy.

Their minions, the ordinary working British taxpayer

[yellowcard]

From following the trial, Maxwell came across as just a horrible person with very few redeeeming features. Being brought up into a life of privilege she appeared to think that the rules didn't apply to her. In terms of Prince Andrew and the rumours of a multi million pound pay off from the Queen, well what's a few million to buy protection when you are worth £350m. The media and establishment will be semi-complicit if he is allowed to avoid the trial that any other normal citizen would ordinarily face.

[whitey]

Maxwell verdict could very well be thrown out

Looks like a juror may not have been honest on the questionnaire

[seafoid]

Maxwell verdict could very well be thrown out

Looks like a juror may not have been honest on the questionnaire

A new jury of ordinary people would also find her guilty, surely

[nrico2006]

https://unherd.com/2022/01/we-all-enabled-ghislaine-maxwell/The conviction of Ghislaine Maxwell has divided feminists. I don't know any who would suggest she is innocent. But there are those who would argue she was nothing but a handmaiden, coerced and abused by Jeffrey Epstein into luring those poor girls to be raped and prostituted. Others say she is both victim and perpetrator, and that her behaviour was a direct result of being sexually abused by her father, the late Robert Maxwell.

My take is pretty straightforward. Yes, there is evidence to suggest she was abused by her father, and it is clear that Epstein had a certain level of power and control over her. But Maxwell is a woman with immense privilege and power of her own. She was not convicted for associating with Epstein, she was convicted for procuring young women into prostitution. There is nothing of the victim about Maxwell.

She was corrupted by her own power. She wasn't just a "daddy pleaser" who transferred her subservience to Epstein as a replacement for her father. She was an agent in her own downfall; she used her wealth and class superiority to outsource abuse. Maxwell had scant respect for her victims: during the trial, we heard how she would refer to the poor, barely educated, vulnerable young women as "scum". It's all grimly reminiscent of what happened during the grooming gang cases in England, where the girls were viewed as "troublesome slags" who had "chosen" a lifestyle of prostitution.

What evidence is there to suggest she was abused by her father?

[whitey]

Maxwell verdict could very well be thrown out

Looks like a juror may not have been honest on the questionnaire

A new jury of ordinary people would also find her guilty, surely

I wouldn't bet on that happening

[David McKeown]

Maxwell verdict could very well be thrown out

Looks like a juror may not have been honest on the questionnaire

A new jury of ordinary people would also find her guilty, surely

I wouldn't bet on that happening

Issues on double jeaporardy may also arise.

[Wildweasel74]

Probable retrial with same result, juror could could under pressure due to conflicting interest