The Future for Laois Football

Started by Junior Ex Laoistalk, July 05, 2021, 12:26:01 AM

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High Fielder

One way of stopping the gap widening though, which for us it is; every year now. A further player drain will bury us deeper and by the looks it, We're making do for our next coach. Hopeless. Absolutely hopeless

The Saint

Quote from: Smellyball on October 05, 2023, 04:10:28 PM
Quote from: The Saint on October 05, 2023, 01:20:23 PMYou know, if even half of the above posts are to be believed (about who's committing or not) then I'm going to ask the question... should we honestly consider withdrawing our Senior football team from the championship/league. And before anyone jumps down my neck.. I think A) it'd for once and for all expose the complete apathy that exists in the county at the minute, B) it'd give the county a clean start to channel a lot or all of the available funding into where its clearly needed, underage C) it'd make the GAA sit up and realise how f*cked the whole model is now.. the imbalance between the haves and have nots, the population disparity, the funding disparity, and so on. I honestly believe at some point in the next couple of years some county is going to take this drastic measure. Now, away ye go..let fly  ;D

Absolutely, I can't think  of a better way to close the gap to the top counties than just not playing  ::)

Isn't this what the players are doing? They've had enough. The last +5 years have been held together by a handful of committed long term servants coupled with the continuous cycle of new young lads coming in, getting burnt, and leaving again. Its starting to look like that scene in the great WW2 film Enemy at the Gates where the poor Russians charge the German line and get mowed down, and then another few Russians charge and pick up the dropped guns and makes another few yards before getting mowed down again, and the cycle continues.

Giovanni

Yes but the Russians eventually won that battle.

The Boy Wonder

The negativity regarding the Laois Senior Football team on this board saddens me. Yes, we are down in Division 4, hammered by Dublin in Leinster SFC and by Down in the Tailteann Cup. We have had one poster here asking should we consider withdrawing from championship and league !

Ciaran Fitzgerald famously said to his Ireland rugby teammates  "where's your f*****g pride ?" and the same applies here. The Laois Senior football team are the flagship football team in the county. Down the years young lads would dream of emulating Curly Prendergast, Barney Maher, Joe Higgins and many more. Do we really want to consider going down the same road as Kilkenny ?

Of course our pool of talent seems very shallow at present and we've had no success at underage since 2007. The structure of club football in Laois has it's shortcomings that doesn't help either. On the other hand the split season and the increased number of games gives inter-county players the opportunities to develop that were lacking previously. Many will also have the experience of playing in high-quality 3rd level competitions. We all know too that a team can be better than the sum of it's parts – no county demonstrated this better than Offaly under the late Eugene McGee.

Laois supporters have a role to play too. If you are totally demoralised then it might be better to just walk away rather than contributing to the negative background noise. Of course lads will be hesitant to commit where there is such a mood of doom and gloom surrounding the Laois Senior Football team. Now is the time that the players and new manager need our support most. Remember Offaly supporters Croke Park sit down protest in 1998 and Kildare's Newbridge or Nowhere protest in 2018. We as Laois supporters should have taken the same stance and refused to play the Dubs in Nowlan Park Kilkenny back in 2016.

Laois Abú!

High Fielder

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Our CB did nothing when Nowlan Park was foisted upon us. They've been doing very little since. Last I heard, they wouldn't even let the ladies play their final in OMP. If you're looking to fling arrows, try directing them at those whose role it is to make things better. They seek election and re-election after all

I can't accept that players won't commit because there's doom and gloom. More likely they don't want to be associated with a shit show.

As for walking away, that's just downright offensive. Every single one of us care about Laois football. We don't have to agree about everything, but we have every right to speak out when we see things we don't like. Far too much in this county is ignored or disregarded, and that has to change before any progress is made. Laois GAA is bigger than those elected to administrate it

The Saint

Quote from: The Boy Wonder on October 14, 2023, 12:19:31 PMThe negativity regarding the Laois Senior Football team on this board saddens me. Yes, we are down in Division 4, hammered by Dublin in Leinster SFC and by Down in the Tailteann Cup. We have had one poster here asking should we consider withdrawing from championship and league !

Ciaran Fitzgerald famously said to his Ireland rugby teammates  "where's your f*****g pride ?" and the same applies here. The Laois Senior football team are the flagship football team in the county. Down the years young lads would dream of emulating Curly Prendergast, Barney Maher, Joe Higgins and many more. Do we really want to consider going down the same road as Kilkenny ?

Of course our pool of talent seems very shallow at present and we've had no success at underage since 2007. The structure of club football in Laois has it's shortcomings that doesn't help either. On the other hand the split season and the increased number of games gives inter-county players the opportunities to develop that were lacking previously. Many will also have the experience of playing in high-quality 3rd level competitions. We all know too that a team can be better than the sum of it's parts – no county demonstrated this better than Offaly under the late Eugene McGee.

Laois supporters have a role to play too. If you are totally demoralised then it might be better to just walk away rather than contributing to the negative background noise. Of course lads will be hesitant to commit where there is such a mood of doom and gloom surrounding the Laois Senior Football team. Now is the time that the players and new manager need our support most. Remember Offaly supporters Croke Park sit down protest in 1998 and Kildare's Newbridge or Nowhere protest in 2018. We as Laois supporters should have taken the same stance and refused to play the Dubs in Nowlan Park Kilkenny back in 2016.

Laois Abú!



It's not my intention to offend you but this is just pure virtue signalling. Let's all get behind the team and be good little supporters and everything will be grand. For a proud dual county we're now an embarrassment on the football side. Players not committing, being outnumbered in support at every home game for the last 5 years, that debacle vs Down on national tv and so on. I've been to probably 90% of Laois matches in the last 50 years but enough is enough. I'll stand by my previous post... channel everything and anything we have into starting from scratch with underage, see where we could get to in 5/7 years. Take the emotion or whatever out of this and answer this question for me..,what county would you hand on heart say we'd definitely beat in next years Leinster championship? But maybe you're right.. the 250 of us that go to games should sit on the middle of the pitch in OMP next time we're losing and everything will sort itself out.

Tintin84

So it looks like it's Justin McNulty announcement shortly!!!

Spiritof86


Junior Ex Laoistalk

Winners are not those who never fail, but those who never quit!

BallyroanAbu

Keep making the same mistakes, keep getting the same results.  If you point out these errors you get told you're disloyal or an idiot.  If you try to change things you are worn down by those who don't want change.  Sorry I'm not optimistic , but I don't see Laois Hurling or Football going anywhere.  If only a change of manager could sort it. 

Sometimes I feel so pissed off about it all but I genuinely think at this stage nobody really wants change.

From the Terrace

People want change, Not enough like minded people will give up their time to achieve it imo. As I've posted previously there needs to be 5-6 people go in & infiltrate the county board this has to include a couple of past players, people of stature in Laois gaa - a dempsey from Josephs, Niall Rigney for example.

The Boy Wonder

Michael Dempsey's view on the future of Laois Football

"I think there's a long way back but definitely, from my point of view, there is hope," insisted Dempsey, who managed Laois for two seasons (from 1996 to '98) and went on to enjoy unparalleled success during his 15 years alongside Brian Cody with the Kilkenny hurlers.
"Even if it means just getting 30 young players, combined with some of the other players who've been around.
"I mean, anything and everything is possible if the commitment [is there] and the environment is created for players and they have pride in wearing the jersey. We've seen it in so many other counties around the country," Dempsey expanded.
"We're not saying we're going to win an All-Ireland, but can Laois make progress? If everything is right and the players commit – and that's up to everybody to create that environment, where people are happy to be there and wear the Laois jersey. I definitely think Laois can make progress."


High Fielder

Yet wants no part of the set up. Odd that. Not that I hold it against him because I don't. But statements like that ring so hollow against the backdrop of what is unfolding in front of us. There are so many things that are possible, but how probable are they? I mean our best players are already walking away, and we have no manager.

If it is McNulty, good luck to him. I wasn't a fan first time round but the passage of time has since showed that he at least knew how football would be played at County level. I find intercounty football dead boring if I'm honest, and even worse when defensive systems are deployed by teams who do it badly. But look, good luck to whoever gets it at this stage. Even small steps won't be easy without some of your best players involved

Tony

Quote from: High Fielder on October 18, 2023, 06:46:06 AMI wasn't a fan first time round
People like you ran him out of the job, son. He was making serious progress. Was the football attractive? No, not particularily. Were we competitive? Yes. Teams like Laois have to make it ugly to be competitive. The likes of Sheehan going man on man tactics with Dublin earlier this year was madness.

I'm shocked that McNulty wants the job but fair play to him. Let's get back to being somewhat competitive and get out of Div 4. He's a likable manager, hopefully lads will be encouraged to join up with the panel.

BallyroanAbu

I'm sure he will find a love for Laois if the price is right Tony.