Ewan McKenna

[quit yo jibbajabba]

He's also curious as to why us Nordies get offended with the bonfires

Contrarian seeks attention.

Becoming too predictable

[Fogarty]

Contrarians start contradicting themselves.
It's always about the hot take rather than a consistent view.

[bennydorano]

Contrarians start contradicting themselves.
It's always about the hot take rather than a consistent view.

The only man that has maintained his stances over the years is Paul Kimmage, but he's done it by realising he got his W on the Lance Armstrong scenario and offers few opinions / nails his colours to the mast anymore - bar calling people cheats /c***ts or whatever.

[Tubberman]

Contrarians start contradicting themselves.
It's always about the hot take rather than a consistent view.

The only man that has maintained his stances over the years is Paul Kimmage, but he's done it by realising he got his W on the Lance Armstrong scenario and offers few opinions / nails his colours to the mast anymore - bar calling people cheats /c***ts or whatever.

Calling Kimmage a journalist is pushing it these days. His articles are just a transcript (with PK: and XX: denoting who's speaking) of conversations with him fcking and blinding as if that makes it hard hitting and more honest.

[Saffron_sam20]

He's also curious as to why us Nordies get offended with the bonfires

Let's be honest, do any northern nationalist/ republicanas really give an eff what they put on their bonfires? They are on the way out, to be pitied more than anything. Nobody I know honestly cares what they do

[Tubberman]

He's also curious as to why us Nordies get offended with the bonfires

Let's be honest, do any northern nationalist/ republicanas really give an eff what they put on their bonfires? They are on the way out, to be pitied more than anything. Nobody I know honestly cares what they do

I'd say most people down south are confused as to why the bonfires that have insulting effigies or are dangerously tall, aren't just banned I.e. tell the organisers they have X days to take them down.
I realise that's far too simplistic, but it really shouldn't be.

[Joeythelips]

I think this is the best description of the bonfires you will find 

Trying to explain loyalist "bonfires" in the north of Ireland to an American

[Fogarty]

Contrarians start contradicting themselves.
It's always about the hot take rather than a consistent view.

The only man that has maintained his stances over the years is Paul Kimmage, but he's done it by realising he got his W on the Lance Armstrong scenario and offers few opinions / nails his colours to the mast anymore - bar calling people cheats /c***ts or whatever.

Calling Kimmage a journalist is pushing it these days. His articles are just a transcript (with PK: and XX: denoting who's speaking) of conversations with him fcking and blinding as if that makes it hard hitting and more honest.

Fair play to Kimmage. He has managed to make a career out of two hobby horses...They're all on drugs...and...It's a huge weekend for Rory McIlroy.

[twohands!!!]

I think this is the best description of the bonfires you will find 

Trying to explain loyalist "bonfires" in the north of Ireland to an American

I wonder if Sinn Fein could use environmental laws to go after the bonfires?

Basically play up the green angle and say they need to be limited because of how polluting and damaging they are to the environment?

[imtommygunn]

Safety concerns for people at the bonfires and surrounding houses as well as environmental issues are things anyone should go after (in a normal society). Shouldn't matter if sf or not. In reality they should be let do their thing but in a safe and environmentally friendly manner. (A lack of sectarianness would help but not going to happen).

[Rossfan]

Sectarianess is the whole point of course.

[imtommygunn]

Yeah. It's not feasible to take the whole thing away though.

[gallsman]

I wonder if Sinn Fein could use environmental laws to go after the bonfires?

Basically play up the green angle and say they need to be limited because of how polluting and damaging they are to the environment?

The "green angle" is precisely the reason anyone should "go after" the bonfires.

The fact you're suggesting they should "play up" the environmental disasters that are the bonfires to achieve another political goal only serves to fuel the narrative that nationalists are determined to attack and eliminate the culture of the other side and are underhanded enough to do it under the guise of something else.

[Wildweasel74]

Hardly can do that, when they are particular shy of solutions to clean up our rivers.

[DaleCooper]

Only our rivers run free...but not from slurry and potassium nitrate