Laois Senior Football Championship 2018

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Don Draper

Quote from: High Fielder on October 01, 2018, 12:53:32 PM
Portlaoise should never be split and nor should it be. They have a hard enough time of it at underage and there's a good reason for that
Ah the poor auld divils. Stop, me heart is bleedin for them. Shocking tough they have it. Shocking. Jaysus you'd wonder how they keep going at all at all.

High Fielder

Quote from: Don Draper on October 01, 2018, 01:28:56 PM
Quote from: High Fielder on October 01, 2018, 12:53:32 PM
Portlaoise should never be split and nor should it be. They have a hard enough time of it at underage and there's a good reason for that
Ah the poor auld divils. Stop, me heart is bleedin for them. Shocking tough they have it. Shocking. Jaysus you'd wonder how they keep going at all at all.

Not really the point I was making but sure you tend to have your own spin on things anyway

Don Draper

Quote from: High Fielder on October 01, 2018, 01:42:46 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on October 01, 2018, 01:28:56 PM
Quote from: High Fielder on October 01, 2018, 12:53:32 PM
Portlaoise should never be split and nor should it be. They have a hard enough time of it at underage and there's a good reason for that
Ah the poor auld divils. Stop, me heart is bleedin for them. Shocking tough they have it. Shocking. Jaysus you'd wonder how they keep going at all at all.

Not really the point I was making but sure you tend to have your own spin on things anyway
Well if you view your wallet as being too small for your fifty euro notes, then yea, I guess its a problem.

High Fielder


Don Draper


clonadmad

Quote from: Jd on October 01, 2018, 12:17:46 PM
I would never advocate a weakening of Portlaoise but it needs two clubs to make sure that all possible players are playing they have a population of 30k or thereabouts but only one club. I would suggest that even with one team at every level jnrC to senior that's only 80 to 90 players being catered for  that's less than .33% of the population ......even 1%of total population playing would make huge strides towards a new club at the northern end of towns. Allow for half males and say half under 40 years there are still huge numbers available. It's not up to Portlaoise to come back to the others but for other large clubs to step up a bit. Stradbally did so why can't Port Joseph's mountmellick step up too. To say we have too many clubs I'd have to disagree with. People who identify strongly with locality will go that extra bit to tog out for a local  first team but may not for an amalgamations second team. Perhaps the competition structures are wrong as I feel we have too many senior team's and not enough intermediate . Maybe 3 levels of 12 teams split in two groups would work for snr to jnr and similar smaller  groups at lower grades. Attach your placing in championship to your league status without exception eg div 1 senior div 2 intermediate and so on. Leagues would mean something and less clubs would give walkovers if relegation meant a drop in status  matches played on a set day  for a set grade every week or fortnight. We'd have a defined season and club players would be improved by playing meaningful matches instead of practice matches all over the place

Purely from a hurling viewpoint we have approached and met the county board with a proposal to have 2 national schools in the town plus portlaoise college designated as schools that we will be able to access for future  players


We also have a proposal in that we as a club will be able to access Portlaoise college sporting facilities for the use and benefit of the clonad club.

Blow-in

Quote from: clonadmad on October 01, 2018, 02:54:24 PM
Quote from: Jd on October 01, 2018, 12:17:46 PM
I would never advocate a weakening of Portlaoise but it needs two clubs to make sure that all possible players are playing they have a population of 30k or thereabouts but only one club. I would suggest that even with one team at every level jnrC to senior that's only 80 to 90 players being catered for  that's less than .33% of the population ......even 1%of total population playing would make huge strides towards a new club at the northern end of towns. Allow for half males and say half under 40 years there are still huge numbers available. It's not up to Portlaoise to come back to the others but for other large clubs to step up a bit. Stradbally did so why can't Port Joseph's mountmellick step up too. To say we have too many clubs I'd have to disagree with. People who identify strongly with locality will go that extra bit to tog out for a local  first team but may not for an amalgamations second team. Perhaps the competition structures are wrong as I feel we have too many senior team's and not enough intermediate . Maybe 3 levels of 12 teams split in two groups would work for snr to jnr and similar smaller  groups at lower grades. Attach your placing in championship to your league status without exception eg div 1 senior div 2 intermediate and so on. Leagues would mean something and less clubs would give walkovers if relegation meant a drop in status  matches played on a set day  for a set grade every week or fortnight. We'd have a defined season and club players would be improved by playing meaningful matches instead of practice matches all over the place

Purely from a hurling viewpoint we have approached and met the county board with a proposal to have 2 national schools in the town plus portlaoise college designated as schools that we will be able to access for future  players


We also have a proposal in that we as a club will be able to access Portlaoise college sporting facilities for the use and benefit of the clonad club.

What the f**k has Clonad got to do with a senior Football thread

Butch Cassidy

Will Bruno miss the final? Also is Tuohy home for it?

Laoiseabu

What are the advantages of a new club in Portlaoise ? I want someone to answer

Jd

So because  Portlaoise  have huge  resources  does that mean the rest fold their tents up and leave  it to them.?? I mentioned  Port cos they have a big number  in that town too.  Are you or I gonna tell the two arles  to amalgamate? Perhaps Emo Courtwood O Dempseys and Port should all join up to create  a club half the size of Portlaoise  and maybe  they'll  catch them on the hop the odd time.  I suggested  that the bigger  towns and clubs take their youth development  a bit more seriously  and the results will come in time.  I read on laois today last week  that Courtwood  are the second smallest club population wise  in Laois........  Well through hard work at juvenile  and good management  they're  now senior,  they got three or four very talented  young fellas up and look a really good team. Why shouldn't  Port or Graigue  or even Mountmellick be capable of similar.  It's too easy to say that the resources aren't  there

Don Draper

Quote from: Laoiseabu on October 01, 2018, 08:08:16 PM
What are the advantages of a new club in Portlaoise ? I want someone to answer
Youngster will get to play gaelic games.

Laoiseabu

Quote from: Don Draper on October 01, 2018, 08:47:29 PM
Quote from: Laoiseabu on October 01, 2018, 08:08:16 PM
What are the advantages of a new club in Portlaoise ? I want someone to answer
Youngster will get to play gaelic games.
Are the youngsters interested ? Would there be enough of interest to sustain a new club?

High Fielder

Quote from: Jd on October 01, 2018, 08:41:02 PM
So because  Portlaoise  have huge  resources  does that mean the rest fold their tents up and leave  it to them.?? I mentioned  Port cos they have a big number  in that town too.  Are you or I gonna tell the two arles  to amalgamate? Perhaps Emo Courtwood O Dempseys and Port should all join up to create  a club half the size of Portlaoise  and maybe  they'll  catch them on the hop the odd time.  I suggested  that the bigger  towns and clubs take their youth development  a bit more seriously  and the results will come in time.  I read on laois today last week  that Courtwood  are the second smallest club population wise  in Laois........  Well through hard work at juvenile  and good management  they're  now senior,  they got three or four very talented  young fellas up and look a really good team. Why shouldn't  Port or Graigue  or even Mountmellick be capable of similar.  It's too easy to say that the resources aren't  there

You'll always get the odd purple patch as a small club or county and the best thing is to enjoy it while it lasts

Jd

Quote from: Laoiseabu on October 01, 2018, 08:08:16 PM
What are the advantages of a new club in Portlaoise ? I want someone to answer
[Probably  not many to the existing club  but if we want to broaden  the county  player  base then I would suggest  that a second club at the northern part of town might gather up players  who will otherwise fall through the cracks.  It's probably easier to get to agragar from O  Moore  place than it is to get out to the current  Portlaoise  pitch so a convenient  one at that end might get a few kids playing)

Don Draper

Quote from: Laoiseabu on October 01, 2018, 08:49:25 PM
Are the youngsters interested ? Would there be enough of interest to sustain a new club?
Well they sure as shit aint getting it at the moment. From speaking to a GDA some youngsters in the schools in Portlaoise dont even know what Gaelic Games are. If you're content with allowing that continue then good luck to you.