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[tbrick18]

Personally, I wouldn't want a manager unproven at any level as a manager. I'm not sure of any other examples of where this has worked at county level. McMahon was an exceptional player and obviously has aspirations of management, but I think he needs to learn his trade before going right in at the deep end.

I wouldn't be a fan of McKaigue being part of the management set up either. He's too close to the current crop of players and his involvement in attracting Harte/Devlin to the job shows at the very least a lack of judgement. He has more experience than McMahon to be fair to him and no doubt he's driven. But his stint with Ardboe hasn't been deadly. He was a supporting member of management in St. Pats as opposed to leading them, so we just need to apply that context imo. He doesn't have that much managerial experience either.

For me it would have made perfect sense to add Meenagh + an attacking coach to Tally's backroom team.

Assuming Meenagh is going to be the choice, I hope the CB dont stick their noses too far in and instead give him the room to choose his own team - who ever that may be. If he chooses McKaigue, fair enough. But I wouldn't want the CB imposing a backroom team on any new manager.

[Mario]

Personally, I wouldn't want a manager unproven at any level as a manager. I'm not sure of any other examples of where this has worked at county level. McMahon was an exceptional player and obviously has aspirations of management, but I think he needs to learn his trade before going right in at the deep end.

I wouldn't be a fan of McKaigue being part of the management set up either. He's too close to the current crop of players and his involvement in attracting Harte/Devlin to the job shows at the very least a lack of judgement. He has more experience than McMahon to be fair to him and no doubt he's driven. But his stint with Ardboe hasn't been deadly. He was a supporting member of management in St. Pats as opposed to leading them, so we just need to apply that context imo. He doesn't have that much managerial experience either.

For me it would have made perfect sense to add Meenagh + an attacking coach to Tally's backroom team.

Assuming Meenagh is going to be the choice, I hope the CB dont stick their noses too far in and instead give him the room to choose his own team - who ever that may be. If he chooses McKaigue, fair enough. But I wouldn't want the CB imposing a backroom team on any new manager.

So you want Meenagh to have power over his own management team (which i agree with), but your first choice would have been Tally and you'd impose Meenagh on him. Put yourself in Tally's shoes, would you really want RG's former right hand man, who all the main players probably prefer, as your assistant? It would undermine your whole set up. It makes far from perfect sense to me.

[tbrick18]

Personally, I wouldn't want a manager unproven at any level as a manager. I'm not sure of any other examples of where this has worked at county level. McMahon was an exceptional player and obviously has aspirations of management, but I think he needs to learn his trade before going right in at the deep end.

I wouldn't be a fan of McKaigue being part of the management set up either. He's too close to the current crop of players and his involvement in attracting Harte/Devlin to the job shows at the very least a lack of judgement. He has more experience than McMahon to be fair to him and no doubt he's driven. But his stint with Ardboe hasn't been deadly. He was a supporting member of management in St. Pats as opposed to leading them, so we just need to apply that context imo. He doesn't have that much managerial experience either.

For me it would have made perfect sense to add Meenagh + an attacking coach to Tally's backroom team.

Assuming Meenagh is going to be the choice, I hope the CB dont stick their noses too far in and instead give him the room to choose his own team - who ever that may be. If he chooses McKaigue, fair enough. But I wouldn't want the CB imposing a backroom team on any new manager.

So you want Meenagh to have power over his own management team (which i agree with), but your first choice would have been Tally and you'd impose Meenagh on him. Put yourself in Tally's shoes, would you really want RG's former right hand man, who all the main players probably prefer, as your assistant? It would undermine your whole set up. It makes far from perfect sense to me.

To be fair - I didn't explain myself very well there and my post prob only made sense if you'd read prev posts I put up.
I'll start by saying I think Tally should have been given the chance to stay on - even though I wasn't excited by his appointment and he made some glaring mistakes, I don't think any other manager would have done any better than he did given the circumstances. And he also seemed to be trying to fix his own mistakes, and the team was improving towards the end of the season.

When the backroom team was cleared out (I don't know if that was by Tally or CB) I had hoped they would try to bring Meenagh into the backroom team. I felt this would have been something Tally himself would look to since he'd been there before, didnt seem to want the No. 1 position, doesn't live a million miles away from Tally and he did well with Derry previously. I also feel Meenagh played a huge part in the tactical approach Derry took previously, and tactically I think Tally needed help. That's the part I meant by it be making perfect sense.

To go down the road of who the players prefer, the answer there is prob still RG. But, I'd guess they'd be more than happy to have Meenagh involved in any capacity.

The crux of the point I'm trying to make is that who ever the new manager is, they should be allowed to pick their own backroom team. If it's Meenagh, and I'd be happy with that myself, I hope the CB is not trying to impose McKaigue on him.

CB need to move quickly though otherwise we're into another mess.

[93-DY-SAM]

Personally, I wouldn't want a manager unproven at any level as a manager. I'm not sure of any other examples of where this has worked at county level. McMahon was an exceptional player and obviously has aspirations of management, but I think he needs to learn his trade before going right in at the deep end.

I wouldn't be a fan of McKaigue being part of the management set up either. He's too close to the current crop of players and his involvement in attracting Harte/Devlin to the job shows at the very least a lack of judgement. He has more experience than McMahon to be fair to him and no doubt he's driven. But his stint with Ardboe hasn't been deadly. He was a supporting member of management in St. Pats as opposed to leading them, so we just need to apply that context imo. He doesn't have that much managerial experience either.

For me it would have made perfect sense to add Meenagh + an attacking coach to Tally's backroom team.

Assuming Meenagh is going to be the choice, I hope the CB dont stick their noses too far in and instead give him the room to choose his own team - who ever that may be. If he chooses McKaigue, fair enough. But I wouldn't want the CB imposing a backroom team on any new manager.

So you want Meenagh to have power over his own management team (which i agree with), but your first choice would have been Tally and you'd impose Meenagh on him. Put yourself in Tally's shoes, would you really want RG's former right hand man, who all the main players probably prefer, as your assistant? It would undermine your whole set up. It makes far from perfect sense to me.

To be fair - I didn't explain myself very well there and my post prob only made sense if you'd read prev posts I put up.
I'll start by saying I think Tally should have been given the chance to stay on - even though I wasn't excited by his appointment and he made some glaring mistakes, I don't think any other manager would have done any better than he did given the circumstances. And he also seemed to be trying to fix his own mistakes, and the team was improving towards the end of the season.

When the backroom team was cleared out (I don't know if that was by Tally or CB) I had hoped they would try to bring Meenagh into the backroom team. I felt this would have been something Tally himself would look to since he'd been there before, didnt seem to want the No. 1 position, doesn't live a million miles away from Tally and he did well with Derry previously. I also feel Meenagh played a huge part in the tactical approach Derry took previously, and tactically I think Tally needed help. That's the part I meant by it be making perfect sense.

To go down the road of who the players prefer, the answer there is prob still RG. But, I'd guess they'd be more than happy to have Meenagh involved in any capacity.

The crux of the point I'm trying to make is that who ever the new manager is, they should be allowed to pick their own backroom team. If it's Meenagh, and I'd be happy with that myself, I hope the CB is not trying to impose McKaigue on him.

CB need to move quickly though otherwise we're into another mess.

If Ciaran does get the job it needs to be on a 3 year term and with the condition the county board let him get on with it on his own terms. The man needs a chance to develop things his way. These things take time regardless of what has gone before.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Cahair says Meenagh this week

[jb77]

Pleased with that but we need to give the man his years to develop the thing..

[tbrick18]

Cahair says Meenagh this week

Good stuff.
Wouldn't have picked mckaigue, but also didn't know he'd worked with meenagh before, so might work well.

[doh827]

Cahair says Meenagh this week

Good stuff.
Wouldn't have picked mckaigue, but also didn't know he'd worked with meenagh before, so might work well.

Where did they work with each other?

[tbrick18]

Cahair says Meenagh this week

Good stuff.
Wouldn't have picked mckaigue, but also didn't know he'd worked with meenagh before, so might work well.

Where did they work with each other?

Loughmacrory according to Cahair.

[STREET FIGHTER]

Was it not Martin Boyle (former Derry Minor Manager) with CM at Loughmacrory?

[tbrick18]

Was it not Martin Boyle (former Derry Minor Manager) with CM at Loughmacrory?

According to Cahair McKaigue was with him in 2022 at loughmacrory.
Is Marty Boyle not the current loughmacrory manager?

[Ghost+Tommy]

O Kane is to Mc Kaigue like CNN is to trump,his mouthpiece

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

Cahair says Meenagh this week

Good stuff.
Wouldn't have picked mckaigue, but also didn't know he'd worked with meenagh before, so might work well.

Bit of a glow down, according to my kids.

[zapped]

O Kane is to Mc Kaigue like CNN is to trump,his mouthpiece

Think you might have your American news agencies mixed up. Trump calls CNN 'fake news'

[Bring back club football]

McKaigue was in the lough in 2022.

He then jumped ship to Ardboe for the 2022 and then 2023 season as he is mates with the horse Devlin and wanted to entice him to Derry. 

He has latched on to Ardboe minors this season in the hope they might win something to massage his CV. They could very  well do as they've a very good team.

A lot of people round Ardboe are apparently hoping he gets the Derry job so they get rid of him once and for all.