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jmcgdoire

I'll say it again: It speaks volumes that not a single player on this team has spoken out to say they condemn RG or that they wouldnt play for him.

I think most people here and the majority of supporters are in agreement that RG should not be given that position again due to his personal issues and what that would say to all the women in Derry. If the fans can publicly say it then why cant the players?
They have heard the same things we have heard. They believe it as much as the rest of us. The difference is, they dont care. Because theyd rather play for an evil b*****d that would help them win an AI.

At this rate whether they take RG or not I dont care. Their silence speaks volume. Ive lost a lot of respect in these men and i will not be supporting them the same way i once did.

CookieMonster

Quote from: jb77 on November 07, 2024, 01:10:50 PMThis is just getting painful now

CB couldn't make a bigger balls of it if they tried. Managed to make a laughing stock of a team that were a whisker away from their first AI Final in a generation. Lack of action has made it a media circus with only themselves to blame. Absolutely no reason that Muldoon couldn't have been ratified weeks ago and a line drawn under the Gallagher saga once and for all.

Mario

Quote from: jmcgdoire on November 07, 2024, 01:11:58 PMI'll say it again: It speaks volumes that not a single player on this team has spoken out to say they condemn RG or that they wouldnt play for him.

I think most people here and the majority of supporters are in agreement that RG should not be given that position again due to his personal issues and what that would say to all the women in Derry. If the fans can publicly say it then why cant the players?
They have heard the same things we have heard. They believe it as much as the rest of us. The difference is, they dont care. Because theyd rather play for an evil b*****d that would help them win an AI.

At this rate whether they take RG or not I dont care. Their silence speaks volume. Ive lost a lot of respect in these men and i will not be supporting them the same way i once did.
Very harsh take imo. They are players and their primary concern is playing. Even if they did think this I doubt too many would want the media spotlight that would come with such a statement. They'd be front page news across Ireland.

There is also the risk RG gets back in and you are one of the players that spoke out against him and you don't play again. I didn't hear any Ulster players release statements about Paddy Jackson, or Man utd players speaking out against Greenwood, or Limerick players saying they won't play with Kyle Hayes.

jmcgdoire

No youre right, no Ulster players did speak out etc.
The point is, shouldnt they?

If I was a current Derry player who was staying selectively mute on my thoughts whether or not i would like Rory back, i wouldnt be able to look his ex-wife in the eye. Id be ashamed.

I have no doubt these lads will condemn RG privately to there wives and girlfriends and pretend they stand with all women. If you stand with all women? Speak up.

toby47

They need to grow a set of balls.

If you want Gallagher - go for him, name it, take the flack, don't hide him on a ticket behind Muldoon. Back yourself and take whatever comes with it.

If you want to rule him out, completely do it, come out and say it, tell the players it's not happening.




The problem with either of the above now is, it's probably too late. Time wasted. An unappealing job for anyone else now.

Keenan said Gallagher was ruled out in public, and other CB members want his head because it wasn't 100% agreed internally. Others on the CB saying Gallagher is the only man for the job, not even taking anyone else discussed seriously (and telling players not to either - force the Gallagher move) as well as lambasting Keenan who apparently spoke out of turn. Now it's a total mess.

imtommygunn

Exactly this. They've tainted the job by this arsing round and a lot of ones wouldn't want to touch it you'd imagine.

Should have been ruled in or out in public statement and that would have been that.

CookieMonster

Quote from: jmcgdoire on November 07, 2024, 02:11:19 PMNo youre right, no Ulster players did speak out etc.
The point is, shouldnt they?

If I was a current Derry player who was staying selectively mute on my thoughts whether or not i would like Rory back, i wouldnt be able to look his ex-wife in the eye. Id be ashamed.

I have no doubt these lads will condemn RG privately to there wives and girlfriends and pretend they stand with all women. If you stand with all women? Speak up.

I don't want to say too much and I'm not excusing anything RG has (allegedly) done but I have it on very good authority that the cycle of abuse is a factor here. Still wouldn't want him in charge of Derry.

GraceO’Malley

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Quote from: jmcgdoire on November 07, 2024, 01:11:58 PMI'll say it again: It speaks volumes that not a single player on this team has spoken out to say they condemn RG or that they wouldnt play for him.

I think most people here and the majority of supporters are in agreement that RG should not be given that position again due to his personal issues and what that would say to all the women in Derry. If the fans can publicly say it then why cant the players?
They have heard the same things we have heard. They believe it as much as the rest of us. The difference is, they dont care. Because theyd rather play for an evil b*****d that would help them win an AI.

At this rate whether they take RG or not I dont care. Their silence speaks volume. Ive lost a lot of respect in these men and i will not be supporting them the same way i once did.
I was disappointed that no other ex-player with any gravitas backed up Gary Coleman when he spoke out. Fair play to him.
Whilst I haven't necessarily expected any current players to speak out publicly, I hope some would not to return to the panel if he were involved. 
We will find out if he does.
It's unlikely players are to be in a situation to meet Nicola Gallagher. However, they have mothers, girlfriends, wives and some may even have a daughter. Those are the women they have to look in the eye. If they are happy respecting RG on a football pitch what does that say to the women in their lives? I would think far more of a man who refused to play under RG than one who climbed the steps of the Hogan Stand with him.

Wildweasel74

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Here the man was in with Donegal for 6yrs and Fermanagh 3yrs and not one word was said about this, even though it was supposed common knowledge in both counties and boards. Don't see the point going bck to RG now with all the issues in the background. I still be eying Lacey, as word from round Kilcoo, is it's his last year. As for Keenan he was chair before, and u didn't think he was that great. I wouldn't had him back in again, but seemed to move in again with Derry going well. Sort seems to do his own thing.

Uncle Phil

Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 07, 2024, 12:41:46 PMUnderstand that plans for Derry's executive committee to vote tonight on a management team containing Rory Gallagher have been shelved again, and that the proposal will not be put forward

Taken from Cahair OKane twitter. Absolute shambles

Derry EC meet monthly to review all matters, so this was always in the calendar. Also, Cahair rarely, if ever, consults Derry GAA before he tweets or publishes Irish News articles.

uimhr ocht

Who's leaking this information to the press then?Cahir o kane seems to get wind of a lot before the event occurrs,

shamrocker12

Quote from: uimhr ocht on November 07, 2024, 04:52:06 PMWho's leaking this information to the press then?Cahir o kane seems to get wind of a lot before the event occurrs,

That's exactly my question? I mentioned earlier is this being leaked from the player leadership group who it seems are at loggerheads with senior Co.board officials? Are they beginning to play their hand in forcing a move through to appoint gallagher underneath Enda in a coup against  keenan and other members of Co.board? Be interested to know what the split was in the vote that was meant to have taken place against voting RG a while back? Was it conclusive or was it pretty even with the chairman calling the final shot or what? Because no matter what way you look at this...keenan may have said he wasn't under consideration a while back but the links and rumours have not gone away and seems like up until today there was a proposal in place for tonight's executive meeting to try and ratify the appointment of Enda with RG.

Cluborcountywhynotboth

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The county board and the self appointed CEO are the main issue here as they can't seem to agree among themselves never mind nothing else (and the CEO should resign). However, involved in every step of this saga appears to be Cathair OKane and his input, how many people has he named as possible Derry managers only for them to then come out and say they have heard nothing about it. As well as obviously being a mouth piece for certain members of the county board, He is also as toxic an entity as there has been in Derry football for a long time, and has had a huge impact in the current view of the Derry job as a poison chalice.

shamrocker12

Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on November 07, 2024, 05:47:04 PMThe county board and the self appointed CEO are the main issue here as they can't seem to agree among themselves never mind nothing else (and the CEO should resign). However, involved in every step of this saga appears to be Cathair OKane and his input, how many people has he named as possible Derry managers only for them to then come out and say they have heard nothing about it. As well as obviously being a mouth piece for certain members of the county board, He is also as toxic an entity as there has been in Derry football for a long time, and has had a huge impact in the current view of the Derry job as a position chalice.

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Wildweasel74

He's went well, to outdo Brolly, who funny enough hasn't weighted in, since Hartes gone. Maybe he could tell who has the Derryish, or is one of us,to do the job. O'Kane done a good job reporting on games with the Derry post, but become nothing but a total shit stirrer since joining the Irish News in a Column piece. There's def a leak in the county board. Don't think it's players.