Derry Club Football & Hurling original

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lenny

Quote from: Ryan O on May 02, 2025, 05:16:42 PM
Quote from: uimhr ocht on May 01, 2025, 10:41:08 PMIf we don't win a match this season are you saying no management change needed,if that happened to  other div one team they would be gone
Ok if thats the plan, who do you suggest Derry approach? Or who do you believe would be interested?

Allowing that it must be an improvement from what they already have.
Personally I believe Gilligan will leave Armagh at the end of this season having achieved all he can l, 1 option to be approached as a coach but not management.

The county board would be extremely negligent if they weren't reviewing the management situation and making plans. Hopefully we get a good end to the season, there would be no one happier than me but the realist in me thinks we won't win a game in the group. By reviewing I don't necessarily mean a change of manager but there has to be a serious review of what has been a very poor season and strategies put in place to ensure next season is more successful. If that review leads to a change of manager or a shake up of the back room team then so be it. As I say hopefully it won't be necessary but there should be forward planning already going on.

marty34

Quote from: lenny on May 02, 2025, 11:20:46 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on May 02, 2025, 05:16:42 PM
Quote from: uimhr ocht on May 01, 2025, 10:41:08 PMIf we don't win a match this season are you saying no management change needed,if that happened to  other div one team they would be gone
Ok if thats the plan, who do you suggest Derry approach? Or who do you believe would be interested?

Allowing that it must be an improvement from what they already have.
Personally I believe Gilligan will leave Armagh at the end of this season having achieved all he can l, 1 option to be approached as a coach but not management.

The county board would be extremely negligent if they weren't reviewing the management situation and making plans. Hopefully we get a good end to the season, there would be no one happier than me but the realist in me thinks we won't win a game in the group. By reviewing I don't necessarily mean a change of manager but there has to be a serious review of what has been a very poor season and strategies put in place to ensure next season is more successful. If that review leads to a change of manager or a shake up of the back room team then so be it. As I say hopefully it won't be necessary but there should be forward planning already going on.

Can the county board review the county board?

If it's proper, the whole fiasco must be be reviewed.

How long do you go back, this year, 2 years? 

Ryan O

Quote from: lenny on May 02, 2025, 11:20:46 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on May 02, 2025, 05:16:42 PM
Quote from: uimhr ocht on May 01, 2025, 10:41:08 PMIf we don't win a match this season are you saying no management change needed,if that happened to  other div one team they would be gone
Ok if thats the plan, who do you suggest Derry approach? Or who do you believe would be interested?

Allowing that it must be an improvement from what they already have.
Personally I believe Gilligan will leave Armagh at the end of this season having achieved all he can l, 1 option to be approached as a coach but not management.

The county board would be extremely negligent if they weren't reviewing the management situation and making plans. Hopefully we get a good end to the season, there would be no one happier than me but the realist in me thinks we won't win a game in the group. By reviewing I don't necessarily mean a change of manager but there has to be a serious review of what has been a very poor season and strategies put in place to ensure next season is more successful. If that review leads to a change of manager or a shake up of the back room team then so be it. As I say hopefully it won't be necessary but there should be forward planning already going on.
Agree with that 100% but don't think the go to solution has to be to get rid of the manager especially when good managers are fairly scare.
Backroom team shake up must be considered yes but lets wait and hope.

Ryan O

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 02, 2025, 08:53:07 PMDo the soccer thing again I loved that
I think it hit the nerve, English soccer fans are welcome here its ok. just keep the noise down.

quit yo jibbajabba

Quote from: Ryan O on May 03, 2025, 09:51:11 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 02, 2025, 08:53:07 PMDo the soccer thing again I loved that
I think it hit the nerve, English soccer fans are welcome here its ok. just keep the noise down.

You didn't lads. Sorry, lad
Anyway, I wish thee a good day 😊🤝

Norm-Peterson

I was looking through the Wikipedia records and it seems the last time Derry didn't win a league or championship game in a season was 1965/66. Although you could make the point that losing Division 1 games is still better than seasons playing in lower divisions.

zapped

Quote from: marty34 on May 02, 2025, 11:46:27 PM
Quote from: lenny on May 02, 2025, 11:20:46 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on May 02, 2025, 05:16:42 PM
Quote from: uimhr ocht on May 01, 2025, 10:41:08 PMIf we don't win a match this season are you saying no management change needed,if that happened to  other div one team they would be gone
Ok if thats the plan, who do you suggest Derry approach? Or who do you believe would be interested?

Allowing that it must be an improvement from what they already have.
Personally I believe Gilligan will leave Armagh at the end of this season having achieved all he can l, 1 option to be approached as a coach but not management.

The county board would be extremely negligent if they weren't reviewing the management situation and making plans. Hopefully we get a good end to the season, there would be no one happier than me but the realist in me thinks we won't win a game in the group. By reviewing I don't necessarily mean a change of manager but there has to be a serious review of what has been a very poor season and strategies put in place to ensure next season is more successful. If that review leads to a change of manager or a shake up of the back room team then so be it. As I say hopefully it won't be necessary but there should be forward planning already going on.

Can the county board review the county board?

If it's proper, the whole fiasco must be be reviewed.

How long do you go back, this year, 2 years? 
Would you be prepared to put your name forward to stand for the County Board?

Squareball71

Quote from: zapped on May 03, 2025, 03:29:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 02, 2025, 11:46:27 PM
Quote from: lenny on May 02, 2025, 11:20:46 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on May 02, 2025, 05:16:42 PM
Quote from: uimhr ocht on May 01, 2025, 10:41:08 PMIf we don't win a match this season are you saying no management change needed,if that happened to  other div one team they would be gone
Ok if thats the plan, who do you suggest Derry approach? Or who do you believe would be interested?

Allowing that it must be an improvement from what they already have.
Personally I believe Gilligan will leave Armagh at the end of this season having achieved all he can l, 1 option to be approached as a coach but not management.

The county board would be extremely negligent if they weren't reviewing the management situation and making plans. Hopefully we get a good end to the season, there would be no one happier than me but the realist in me thinks we won't win a game in the group. By reviewing I don't necessarily mean a change of manager but there has to be a serious review of what has been a very poor season and strategies put in place to ensure next season is more successful. If that review leads to a change of manager or a shake up of the back room team then so be it. As I say hopefully it won't be necessary but there should be forward planning already going on.

Can the county board review the county board?

If it's proper, the whole fiasco must be be reviewed.

How long do you go back, this year, 2 years? 
Would you be prepared to put your name forward to stand for the County Board?

I'd say you know the answer to your own question zapped.

Anyway the clubs review the County Board every year at convention and anyone can put their name forward if they think they can do a better job or maybe it's just easier to slate them on forums or social media. 

Cluborcountywhynotboth

Quote from: Squareball71 on May 03, 2025, 03:52:39 PM
Quote from: zapped on May 03, 2025, 03:29:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 02, 2025, 11:46:27 PM
Quote from: lenny on May 02, 2025, 11:20:46 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on May 02, 2025, 05:16:42 PM
Quote from: uimhr ocht on May 01, 2025, 10:41:08 PMIf we don't win a match this season are you saying no management change needed,if that happened to  other div one team they would be gone
Ok if thats the plan, who do you suggest Derry approach? Or who do you believe would be interested?

Allowing that it must be an improvement from what they already have.
Personally I believe Gilligan will leave Armagh at the end of this season having achieved all he can l, 1 option to be approached as a coach but not management.

The county board would be extremely negligent if they weren't reviewing the management situation and making plans. Hopefully we get a good end to the season, there would be no one happier than me but the realist in me thinks we won't win a game in the group. By reviewing I don't necessarily mean a change of manager but there has to be a serious review of what has been a very poor season and strategies put in place to ensure next season is more successful. If that review leads to a change of manager or a shake up of the back room team then so be it. As I say hopefully it won't be necessary but there should be forward planning already going on.

Can the county board review the county board?

If it's proper, the whole fiasco must be be reviewed.

How long do you go back, this year, 2 years? 
Would you be prepared to put your name forward to stand for the County Board?

I'd say you know the answer to your own question zapped.

Anyway the clubs review the County Board every year at convention and anyone can put their name forward if they think they can do a better job or maybe it's just easier to slate them on forums or social media. 
I don't think county board is the issue, the issue is the self appointed CEO, who created a job for himself (that he is not qualified for) when he was chair and now cannot be voted out by clubs as it is a funded post appointed by county board.

JoG2

Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on May 03, 2025, 06:51:38 PM
Quote from: Squareball71 on May 03, 2025, 03:52:39 PM
Quote from: zapped on May 03, 2025, 03:29:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 02, 2025, 11:46:27 PM
Quote from: lenny on May 02, 2025, 11:20:46 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on May 02, 2025, 05:16:42 PM
Quote from: uimhr ocht on May 01, 2025, 10:41:08 PMIf we don't win a match this season are you saying no management change needed,if that happened to  other div one team they would be gone
Ok if thats the plan, who do you suggest Derry approach? Or who do you believe would be interested?

Allowing that it must be an improvement from what they already have.
Personally I believe Gilligan will leave Armagh at the end of this season having achieved all he can l, 1 option to be approached as a coach but not management.

The county board would be extremely negligent if they weren't reviewing the management situation and making plans. Hopefully we get a good end to the season, there would be no one happier than me but the realist in me thinks we won't win a game in the group. By reviewing I don't necessarily mean a change of manager but there has to be a serious review of what has been a very poor season and strategies put in place to ensure next season is more successful. If that review leads to a change of manager or a shake up of the back room team then so be it. As I say hopefully it won't be necessary but there should be forward planning already going on.

Can the county board review the county board?

If it's proper, the whole fiasco must be be reviewed.

How long do you go back, this year, 2 years? 
Would you be prepared to put your name forward to stand for the County Board?

I'd say you know the answer to your own question zapped.

Anyway the clubs review the County Board every year at convention and anyone can put their name forward if they think they can do a better job or maybe it's just easier to slate them on forums or social media. 
I don't think county board is the issue, the issue is the self appointed CEO, who created a job for himself (that he is not qualified for) when he was chair and now cannot be voted out by clubs as it is a funded post appointed by county board.

In the last few years:
2 x Anglo Celts
1 x NFL title
2 x AI minor titles

All under the CEO's watch 🤔

North Man

The work for the success highlighted was carried out prior to the appointment of the 'CEO'.
Will be intresting how he sorts out Derry's referring issue particularly with his clubman leaving as referee cordinatior.

JoG2

Quote from: North Man on May 03, 2025, 10:51:47 PMThe work for the success highlighted was carried out prior to the appointment of the 'CEO'.
Will be intresting how he sorts out Derry's referring issue particularly with his clubman leaving as referee cordinatior.


When he was chair?

LoughNeagh

Quote from: JoG2 on May 03, 2025, 11:09:55 PM
Quote from: North Man on May 03, 2025, 10:51:47 PMThe work for the success highlighted was carried out prior to the appointment of the 'CEO'.
Will be intresting how he sorts out Derry's referring issue particularly with his clubman leaving as referee cordinatior.


When he was chair?

2021?
View from the lough!

tbrick18

#9223
Quote from: JoG2 on May 03, 2025, 10:17:14 PM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on May 03, 2025, 06:51:38 PM
Quote from: Squareball71 on May 03, 2025, 03:52:39 PM
Quote from: zapped on May 03, 2025, 03:29:28 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 02, 2025, 11:46:27 PM
Quote from: lenny on May 02, 2025, 11:20:46 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on May 02, 2025, 05:16:42 PM
Quote from: uimhr ocht on May 01, 2025, 10:41:08 PMIf we don't win a match this season are you saying no management change needed,if that happened to  other div one team they would be gone
Ok if thats the plan, who do you suggest Derry approach? Or who do you believe would be interested?

Allowing that it must be an improvement from what they already have.
Personally I believe Gilligan will leave Armagh at the end of this season having achieved all he can l, 1 option to be approached as a coach but not management.

The county board would be extremely negligent if they weren't reviewing the management situation and making plans. Hopefully we get a good end to the season, there would be no one happier than me but the realist in me thinks we won't win a game in the group. By reviewing I don't necessarily mean a change of manager but there has to be a serious review of what has been a very poor season and strategies put in place to ensure next season is more successful. If that review leads to a change of manager or a shake up of the back room team then so be it. As I say hopefully it won't be necessary but there should be forward planning already going on.

Can the county board review the county board?

If it's proper, the whole fiasco must be be reviewed.

How long do you go back, this year, 2 years? 
Would you be prepared to put your name forward to stand for the County Board?

I'd say you know the answer to your own question zapped.

Anyway the clubs review the County Board every year at convention and anyone can put their name forward if they think they can do a better job or maybe it's just easier to slate them on forums or social media. 
I don't think county board is the issue, the issue is the self appointed CEO, who created a job for himself (that he is not qualified for) when he was chair and now cannot be voted out by clubs as it is a funded post appointed by county board.

In the last few years:
2 x Anglo Celts
1 x NFL title
2 x AI minor titles

All under the CEO's watch 🤔


Yeah and also a financial position that other counties would be envious of.
Owenbeag paid off and a streamlining of operations making things run more efficiently.
When he came in he put a lot of things right that had been wrong for a very long time.

Ryan O

Awful ol stupid talk saying put your name forward if think can do better job, thats of no relevance to the fact that certain individuals in positions are not of the quality or qualified. The proof was there in the manager search with little to no leadership shown and blame shifted to sub committees.
Do Derry currently have a structure plan for next 5/10 years? What are the targets set to meet both on and off the pitch.

 Of course its great that the county is debt and recognition has to be given to achieving that, but whats the benefits of it?  surely that gives us more money to spend? Has primary/secondary school coaching been maximised? Can we hire more coaches to help struggling clubs/schools. There must be untapped talent somewhere.
Currently I think we are in good place but staying there has never been cracked in Derry yet.