Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[roadsidefox]

How long outta a broken hand. 6 weeks? The way we shipping goals u need Rodgers at full bck, who i worry going to be off the pace after a ankle injury, anyway. So who goes to Midfield. Probably should be Higgins but he's only played a couple of games. McFaul the other option been out injured ages.

You'd imagine 6-8 weeks with no complications. As much as more injuries aren't ideal, Tohill's injury is not a disaster by any means.
What's McFaul's injury? When did he last play? Will he be available vs Donegal?
Will Rodgers be OK to play vs Donegal?
Lynch is ages away apparently? Any update on the severity of his injury?
What's Lachlan Murrays injury?
Paudi McGrogan still not up to full tilt, could be a bit away from that as with ACL injuries.
Cormac Murphy has made the last couple of benches, but hasn't got many minutes.
McCluskey got another operation last week, season over.
McKinless ACL season over.
Donnacha Gilmore, confirmed season over?

Would love to see a senior panel named for the championship, the same was the u20 panel was named.

All of this and we'll still have people blaming Paddy Tally if/when it doesn't go as we'd like.

[Uncle Phil]

How long outta a broken hand. 6 weeks? The way we shipping goals u need Rodgers at full bck, who i worry going to be off the pace after a ankle injury, anyway. So who goes to Midfield. Probably should be Higgins but he's only played a couple of games. McFaul the other option been out injured ages.

You'd imagine 6-8 weeks with no complications. As much as more injuries aren't ideal, Tohill's injury is not a disaster by any means.
What's McFaul's injury? When did he last play? Will he be available vs Donegal?
Will Rodgers be OK to play vs Donegal?
Lynch is ages away apparently? Any update on the severity of his injury?
What's Lachlan Murrays injury?
Paudi McGrogan still not up to full tilt, could be a bit away from that as with ACL injuries.
Cormac Murphy has made the last couple of benches, but hasn't got many minutes.
McCluskey got another operation last week, season over.
McKinless ACL season over.
Donnacha Gilmore, confirmed season over?

Would love to see a senior panel named for the championship, the same was the u20 panel was named.

All of this and we'll still have people blaming Paddy Tally if/when it doesn't go as we'd like.

Not all Tally's fault. But he's not good enough to be Derry Manager and he hasn't improved the team. Those are the facts.

[lenny]

How long outta a broken hand. 6 weeks? The way we shipping goals u need Rodgers at full bck, who i worry going to be off the pace after a ankle injury, anyway. So who goes to Midfield. Probably should be Higgins but he's only played a couple of games. McFaul the other option been out injured ages.

You'd imagine 6-8 weeks with no complications. As much as more injuries aren't ideal, Tohill's injury is not a disaster by any means.
What's McFaul's injury? When did he last play? Will he be available vs Donegal?
Will Rodgers be OK to play vs Donegal?
Lynch is ages away apparently? Any update on the severity of his injury?
What's Lachlan Murrays injury?
Paudi McGrogan still not up to full tilt, could be a bit away from that as with ACL injuries.
Cormac Murphy has made the last couple of benches, but hasn't got many minutes.
McCluskey got another operation last week, season over.
McKinless ACL season over.
Donnacha Gilmore, confirmed season over?

Would love to see a senior panel named for the championship, the same was the u20 panel was named.

All of this and we'll still have people blaming Paddy Tally if/when it doesn't go as we'd like.

Not all Tally's fault. But he's not good enough to be Derry Manager and he hasn't improved the team. Those are the facts.

You may be right but you're expressing an opinion and not a fact. To be fair to Tally I think if Gallagher had that injury list he'd have been relegated also. Tally deserves to be judged when we've a relatively injury free panel. We actually led in 3 of the games after 55 minutes but our panel wasn't strong enough to see out matches. With some players back we might have a chance to bring on decent standard subs.

[93-DY-SAM]

How long outta a broken hand. 6 weeks? The way we shipping goals u need Rodgers at full bck, who i worry going to be off the pace after a ankle injury, anyway. So who goes to Midfield. Probably should be Higgins but he's only played a couple of games. McFaul the other option been out injured ages.

You'd imagine 6-8 weeks with no complications. As much as more injuries aren't ideal, Tohill's injury is not a disaster by any means.
What's McFaul's injury? When did he last play? Will he be available vs Donegal?
Will Rodgers be OK to play vs Donegal?
Lynch is ages away apparently? Any update on the severity of his injury?
What's Lachlan Murrays injury?
Paudi McGrogan still not up to full tilt, could be a bit away from that as with ACL injuries.
Cormac Murphy has made the last couple of benches, but hasn't got many minutes.
McCluskey got another operation last week, season over.
McKinless ACL season over.
Donnacha Gilmore, confirmed season over?

Would love to see a senior panel named for the championship, the same was the u20 panel was named.

All of this and we'll still have people blaming Paddy Tally if/when it doesn't go as we'd like.

Not all Tally's fault. But he's not good enough to be Derry Manager and he hasn't improved the team. Those are the facts.

You may be right but you're expressing an opinion and not a fact. To be fair to Tally I think if Gallagher had that injury list he'd have been relegated also. Tally deserves to be judged when we've a relatively injury free panel. We actually led in 3 of the games after 55 minutes but our panel wasn't strong enough to see out matches. With some players back we might have a chance to bring on decent standard subs.

Exactly. Very hard to judge anything, given the long injury list and not having a full hand to work with. Any Derry manager would struggle with that. It would take its toll on most counties, most notably Galway, a couple of years ago, who got a pass to a degree with most of the press etc. 

[JoG2]

Opinions are facts in Trumpland, not Derryland !!

This is the Gallagher 18 from the Ulster final '23. There's a line through those who have missed a good portion of the '25 league campaign, those retired or injured long term are left blank (for dramatic effect)

1. O Lynch
2.
3. E McEvoy
4.
5. C Doherty
6. 
7. P McGrogan
8. C Glass
9. B Rogers
10.
11. P Cassidy
12 E Doherty
13 N Toner
14 S McGuigan
15 N Loughlin
Subs:
16 C McFaul
17 L Murray
18

Gallagher trained and played a v small core group of players which would never have helped his successor. Fast forward to Tally in '25. Late appointment, no McKenna cup, a raft of injuries and not a big squad of players with senior experience. To be competing and competing well for the most part in Div 1 all things considered isn't bad and anyone with a modicum of sense sees this surely?

Clucky, Lynch, McKinless back next year with 3/4/5 additions from a v strong looking u20 side, so talk of changing the manager is absolute lunacy (premier league banter stuff)

[Uncle Phil]

Opinions are facts in Trumpland, not Derryland !!

This is the Gallagher 18 from the Ulster final '23. There's a line through those who have missed a good portion of the '25 league campaign, those retired or injured long term are left blank (for dramatic effect)

1. O Lynch
2.
3. E McEvoy
4.
5. C Doherty
6. 
7. P McGrogan
8. C Glass
9. B Rogers
10.
11. P Cassidy
12 E Doherty
13 N Toner
14 S McGuigan
15 N Loughlin
Subs:
16 C McFaul
17 L Murray
18

Gallagher trained and played a v small core group of players which would never have helped his successor. Fast forward to Tally in '25. Late appointment, no McKenna cup, a raft of injuries and not a big squad of players with senior experience. To be competing and competing well for the most part in Div 1 all things considered isn't bad and anyone with a modicum of sense sees this surely?

Clucky, Lynch, McKinless back next year with 3/4/5 additions from a v strong looking u20 side, so talk of changing the manager is absolute lunacy (premier league banter stuff)

I wouldn't class finishing last with one point, having a score difference of -44, and getting relegated as "competing well".

[THEALBION1878]

with Tohill out that likely means Rodgers (if fit ) will play midfield v Donegal. would like to have seen him in full back and McEvoy in 6 with mcgrogan moving to half back. would many agree with this?

[Mario]

with Tohill out that likely means Rodgers (if fit ) will play midfield v Donegal. would like to have seen him in full back and McEvoy in 6 with mcgrogan moving to half back. would many agree with this?

I'd go with a fb line of Bradley, Rogers and Baker and a half back line of McGrogan, McEvoy, and someone else (maybe McFaul if fit). I'd play Conor Doherty and Glass in mf.

[JoG2]

Horses for courses, I'd have Rogers out the field until Murphy comes on, but his running power will be missed, as his job will be to marshal Murphy. Bradley / McEvoy would have the physicality for Murphy. Zero chance Murphy starts imo

Baker McEvoy Bradley

McGrogan Doherty McGurk (have McFaul in the front 6)

     Rogers Glass

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Rogers takes Murphy wherever he is on the field... hopefully he can retire him a second time!!

[Ryan O]

      Mc Kinless
Baker   Rogers  Bradley
Doherty  Mc Evoy   Mc Grogan
      Glass  Higgins
Cassidy   Mc Faul  Doherty
Toner  Mc Guigan Murray

Loughlin not starting but early 2nd half sub, Mc Gurk and Caolan Devlin to follow half way through second half. No faith lads, Donegal are no world beaters.

[Mario]

Mc Kinless
Baker   Rogers  Bradley
Doherty  Mc Evoy   Mc Grogan
      Glass  Higgins
Cassidy   Mc Faul  Doherty
Toner  Mc Guigan Murray

Loughlin not starting but early 2nd half sub, Mc Gurk and Caolan Devlin to follow half way through second half. No faith lads, Donegal are no world beaters.

When you see a 15 like that, you think there's a chance—but you know three will likely be injured, we'll concede a disastrous goal, pick up a red card, or collapse in the last 10 minutes. At this point, you almost expect it. It's the complete opposite of two years ago, when you could count on a flawless performance every time.

[Ryan O]

Mc Kinless
Baker   Rogers  Bradley
Doherty  Mc Evoy   Mc Grogan
      Glass  Higgins
Cassidy   Mc Faul  Doherty
Toner  Mc Guigan Murray

Loughlin not starting but early 2nd half sub, Mc Gurk and Caolan Devlin to follow half way through second half. No faith lads, Donegal are no world beaters.

When you see a 15 like that, you think there's a chance—but you know three will likely be injured, we'll concede a disastrous goal, pick up a red card, or collapse in the last 10 minutes. At this point, you almost expect it. It's the complete opposite of two years ago, when you could count on a flawless performance every time.

I'm forever a realistic optimist and I'll hang my hat on we aren't far away.
Although Paddy Power have shifted us from 12/1 to 22/1 for All Ireland. 15/2 for Ulster worth a sneaky 20

[roadsidefox]

For what it's worth, my team for Donegal would be:

McKinless /

Baker / Rogers / Bradley
McEvoy / McGrogan / McGurk

Glass / C Doherty

E Doherty / McFaul / P Cassidy
Murray / McGuigan / Loughlin

Niall Toner unlucky to miss out, but a great option off the bench - where he has played some of his best football. 

[Estimator]

Irish News reporting this morning that Rogers will miss the Donegal game. So there's another gap that needs filled.