Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[theticklemister]

A few of those goals came from luck of the bounce. However at the same time, Armagh cut through us with ease.


For years we were so comfortable with 13 men back, we can't do that anymore and are being found out.

[Mario]

A few of those goals came from luck of the bounce. However at the same time, Armagh cut through us with ease.


For years we were so comfortable with 13 men back, we can't do that anymore and are being found out.

I think it's more to do with losing 3 all star defenders at the same time.

[screenexile]

Yeah we've injuries and started late etc. but I haven't seen any progression from game to game.

No kickout strategy, no visible attacking strategy (I remember a lengthy video on Twitter a while ago showing 5/6 different attacking plays we used to have where are they?) and defensively we have been absolutely crucified in most games bar Galway/Tyrone.

I hope we see some semblance of a plan against Donegal!

[Topmarks]

It's a total shambles atm. I don't believe this will be fixed any time soon either, with issues at board and management now translating to the pitch.

Let's call a spade a spade the board made an absolute mess of the off season. Truly shambolic. More worried about UTV landing up at Owenbeg and Irish news headlines than having a semblance of a plan on what direction the senior team were headed.

Mgmt brought in very late. I get it we were way behind and the new rules and injuries added to it. Having watched all 7 games it's being some of the worst displays I've seen since we're went to division 4. The Dublin game was a disgrace and the Armagh game today was worse. I have got a clue what the tactics are. Defensively a complete and utter shambles. Attack isn't functioning. Player selection has been head scratching at times. Tally has not covered himself in any glory and I can't think of anything that has improved from game to game, it's got worse rather than better since the first couple of games in the league. He mentioned we were still catching up with fitness before this game??

I am not too bothered about going to division 2 but the complete lack of spirit, fight and tactics on show is the problem and how we can even be remotely competitive against Donegal is a mystery. Some of the senior members of the team need to stand up and be counted. Some leadership is badly needed

[Stickittotheman]

That was abysmal today but fairly consistent with our league performances. Maybe you could say we have grown the squad somewhat and hopefully have Rogers, Murray and McFaul back soon. McGrogan is a brilliant player and the games will have brought him on no end. But 6 losses in 7 and a couple of real hammerings along the way tells its own story.

We have to up the intensity massively for Championship. Too passive in almost every game. Tally can hide behind injuries but many performances like today in Championship will be very dispiriting.

Also is McGuigan suspended for Donegal now or does it only apply to straight reds? He is way way off it at the minute.

[Ryan O]

I am going over well trodden ground here and after seeing the list of lads not togged out in a previous post I'm raising it again. Why is are we insisting on struggling on with Mc Carron? Christ lads the lad is completely lost. I'm fully aware I'll be jumped on as making it an individual attack but it needs called out.
You can see other players on the pitch avoiding the clear pass to him in favour of someone else. Not sure what position he was today but spend a lot time around midfield and in second have was going for kickouts close to Derry 20 yard line when we were down to 14 men. Devlin got his first start and scored 0-3,Mc Gurk last week done rightly so new men are making an impact in spells.
Have sympathy for Mc Kinless I do think he looked nervous, defence has to be anticipating a ball coming off the post and they weren't on 3 separate occasions. We missed about 1-5 in first have and then sending off. Sure it was an up hill battle before we even arrived nevermind that.

[p3427977]

What about Tohill? If Rodgers is back surely has to be him and Glass in midfield.

[Ryan O]

What about Tohill? If Rodgers is back surely has to be him and Glass in midfield.

Rogers needs to go to Full back, Mc Evoy struggling against real clinical forwards. Let him go to CHB and push forward. Rogers steadys everything around him in there.

[Cluborcountywhynotboth]

I am going over well trodden ground here and after seeing the list of lads not togged out in a previous post I'm raising it again. Why is are we insisting on struggling on with Mc Carron? Christ lads the lad is completely lost. I'm fully aware I'll be jumped on as making it an individual attack but it needs called out.
You can see other players on the pitch avoiding the clear pass to him in favour of someone else. Not sure what position he was today but spend a lot time around midfield and in second have was going for kickouts close to Derry 20 yard line when we were down to 14 men. Devlin got his first start and scored 0-3,Mc Gurk last week done rightly so new men are making an impact in spells.
Have sympathy for Mc Kinless I do think he looked nervous, defence has to be anticipating a ball coming off the post and they weren't on 3 separate occasions. We missed about 1-5 in first have and then sending off. Sure it was an up hill battle before we even arrived nevermind that.

This is the point I've been making. You are never going to unearth anyone new or progress if you keep going back to players who've already shown they aren't good enough. This was highlighted by myself and others on here before a ball was kicked about some of the 'new' players who had been added to the panel for a the season. Tohill and McCarron seem to be the main two who have lasted and now they have added McKinless. This management team seems to have very little foresight, innovation or ideas both in terms of panel building or systems and tactics tbh.

[Stickittotheman]

I am going over well trodden ground here and after seeing the list of lads not togged out in a previous post I'm raising it again. Why is are we insisting on struggling on with Mc Carron? Christ lads the lad is completely lost. I'm fully aware I'll be jumped on as making it an individual attack but it needs called out.
You can see other players on the pitch avoiding the clear pass to him in favour of someone else. Not sure what position he was today but spend a lot time around midfield and in second have was going for kickouts close to Derry 20 yard line when we were down to 14 men. Devlin got his first start and scored 0-3,Mc Gurk last week done rightly so new men are making an impact in spells.
Have sympathy for Mc Kinless I do think he looked nervous, defence has to be anticipating a ball coming off the post and they weren't on 3 separate occasions. We missed about 1-5 in first have and then sending off. Sure it was an up hill battle before we even arrived nevermind that.

McCarron was in the Sigerson team of the year. He must have something about him. It looks to me a little that he doesn't fully believe in himself at county level. I agree though he shouldn't be near starting in Championship on current form.

We might be in a bit of a transition phase ATM. Loads of injuries and to key men at that. New rules that don't suit us and a manager who came in very late. I don't think picking on individuals is the way to go if I am honest.

[Topmarks]

I am going over well trodden ground here and after seeing the list of lads not togged out in a previous post I'm raising it again. Why is are we insisting on struggling on with Mc Carron? Christ lads the lad is completely lost. I'm fully aware I'll be jumped on as making it an individual attack but it needs called out.
You can see other players on the pitch avoiding the clear pass to him in favour of someone else. Not sure what position he was today but spend a lot time around midfield and in second have was going for kickouts close to Derry 20 yard line when we were down to 14 men. Devlin got his first start and scored 0-3,Mc Gurk last week done rightly so new men are making an impact in spells.
Have sympathy for Mc Kinless I do think he looked nervous, defence has to be anticipating a ball coming off the post and they weren't on 3 separate occasions. We missed about 1-5 in first have and then sending off. Sure it was an up hill battle before we even arrived nevermind that.

McCarron was in the Sigerson team of the year. He must have something about him. It looks to me a little that he doesn't fully believe in himself at county level. I agree though he shouldn't be near starting in Championship on current form.

We might be in a bit of a transition phase ATM. Loads of injuries and to key men at that. New rules that don't suit us and a manager who came in very late. I don't think picking on individuals is the way to go if I am honest.

I am not one for calling out names but there are a few lads mentioned who should not be starting. The form of our regular starters is a real concern as well, with Shane and Ethan coming to mind. Confidence is fickle and we don't have much atm

[Ryan O]

I am going over well trodden ground here and after seeing the list of lads not togged out in a previous post I'm raising it again. Why is are we insisting on struggling on with Mc Carron? Christ lads the lad is completely lost. I'm fully aware I'll be jumped on as making it an individual attack but it needs called out.
You can see other players on the pitch avoiding the clear pass to him in favour of someone else. Not sure what position he was today but spend a lot time around midfield and in second have was going for kickouts close to Derry 20 yard line when we were down to 14 men. Devlin got his first start and scored 0-3,Mc Gurk last week done rightly so new men are making an impact in spells.
Have sympathy for Mc Kinless I do think he looked nervous, defence has to be anticipating a ball coming off the post and they weren't on 3 separate occasions. We missed about 1-5 in first have and then sending off. Sure it was an up hill battle before we even arrived nevermind that.

McCarron was in the Sigerson team of the year. He must have something about him. It looks to me a little that he doesn't fully believe in himself at county level. I agree though he shouldn't be near starting in Championship on current form.

We might be in a bit of a transition phase ATM. Loads of injuries and to key men at that. New rules that don't suit us and a manager who came in very late. I don't think picking on individuals is the way to go if I am honest.

He's not good enough and shouldn't be there, the games played on front of our eyes. Say what you see.

This isn't underage sport and there's no room for passengers.

[Ball]

I am going over well trodden ground here and after seeing the list of lads not togged out in a previous post I'm raising it again. Why is are we insisting on struggling on with Mc Carron? Christ lads the lad is completely lost. I'm fully aware I'll be jumped on as making it an individual attack but it needs called out.
You can see other players on the pitch avoiding the clear pass to him in favour of someone else. Not sure what position he was today but spend a lot time around midfield and in second have was going for kickouts close to Derry 20 yard line when we were down to 14 men. Devlin got his first start and scored 0-3,Mc Gurk last week done rightly so new men are making an impact in spells.
Have sympathy for Mc Kinless I do think he looked nervous, defence has to be anticipating a ball coming off the post and they weren't on 3 separate occasions. We missed about 1-5 in first have and then sending off. Sure it was an up hill battle before we even arrived nevermind that.

McCarron was in the Sigerson team of the year. He must have something about him. It looks to me a little that he doesn't fully believe in himself at county level. I agree though he shouldn't be near starting in Championship on current form.

We might be in a bit of a transition phase ATM. Loads of injuries and to key men at that. New rules that don't suit us and a manager who came in very late. I don't think picking on individuals is the way to go if I am honest.

He's not good enough and shouldn't be there, the games played on front of our eyes. Say what you see.

This isn't underage sport and there's no room for passengers.

Have to agree re: McCarron and Tohill

In fairness to management both lads werent there last year and were worth a go to see if they improved or would improve under different management.

Tohill has done a bit of a job but McCarron looks lost at this level still as someone said.

On Ben McKinless, who else were management to go for? Thought hed a decent club campaign. Scullion is heading to Oz apparently, maybe Conlann Bradley? Jack Scullion and Jack Cassidy both off kicking pigskins. Oran Hartin never pushed on, think Karl Campbell still U20.

Is it showing now how we have failed to develop players after underage? Huge amount have struggled to bridge the gap.

[Wildweasel74]

Funny u picked out McCarron, not that he was great. But  some of our senior are lucky the bench is so light as they wouldn't get starting, and are playing like they know there nobody to replace them. Glass the only player they have past 2 games. He's had a good league outside of the Dublin game. How do u go from a well oiled machine 2yrs ago to this. Irish Star said during the week Derry went into total meltdown. Goes to show the influence managers have on teams. Leaking goals like confetti. Even when Derry set up in defence, very few players are picking up any men. I thought we could go no lower than the Dublin game.was wrong, Tally totalled out of his depth. Derry county board gonna take most of the blame, especially the process and delays about appointing a manager.

[Wildweasel74]

Tohill might have abit to offer of the bench, am not totally lost on him but at his size he need be taking 5 or 6 clean catches  and on the start/restart, be fisting the ball Glass direction on the sideline, the throw ups go anywhere. McKinless probably only had 2 training sessions, so kick out tactics are non existent at the minute. Does need take blame for the last 2 goals.