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marty34

Quote from: Brendan on February 22, 2025, 08:36:36 PMAw boys beyond embarrassing, literally can't get near them

Bad day for Derry GAA.

markl121

Mcnicholl experiment is surely over now

OakLeaf

Quote from: markl121 on February 22, 2025, 09:11:47 PMMcnicholl experiment is surely over now

If it's not, we need to question the manager.

Interstellar

Just what was that? How could you send a team out and perform like that? The score could have been anything Dublin wanted. Time for a major rethink on team and tactics. I'm afraid the McNichol experiment has not worked. Rogers needs to go back to midfield. Defence needs to close down the opposition. Upfront is a big problem. Playing like individuals not as a team.

screenexile

Lads that was a compete system failure! So many things wrong and so many poor performances not least our tactics on the opposition kickout.

We're miles off it!

harryR

So many passengers on that Derry team. Some players really not playing to there potential. Need to get all injuries cleared up and hopefully a few players improve their form. Out of the new players I would still give Bradley more game time, as he has done ok the first two games (other than that mistake earlier)

Mario

Quote from: jb77 on February 22, 2025, 08:53:51 PMWhen odhran gets lobbed at least it's usually out the field
I reckon he'd have saved all of those goals. Get him back asap.

OakLeaf

Quote from: harryR on February 22, 2025, 09:25:06 PMSo many passengers on that Derry team. Some players really not playing to there potential. Need to get all injuries cleared up and hopefully a few players improve their form. Out of the new players I would still give Bradley more game time, as he has done ok the first two games (other than that mistake earlier)

Id try Bradley at full back and move Mc Evoy to 6. Rodgers back to midfield. Mc Grogan and Loughlin are just back, with Clucky to come. I think we'll be competitive by the time the Donegal championship game comes around. The time for experimenting is over. We need a full side to build confidence.

Ryan O

#8573
Why is Mc Carron not getting a mention for two absolute shocking displays in last two weeks. His work ethic in a Derry jersey is a disgrace. Tohill is poor on the ball but he puts his heart amd sole into it.

We are regularly getting caught with one of our main me as 1 of the 3 forwards, Glass, Rogers, CD. This is poor game management. At one time tonight 3 up front were Glass, Mc Guigan and Paul Cassidy three big leaders reduced to 3/4mins of spectating.

Neil Mc Nicholl is miles off the standard, not a county keeper as we know but he hasn't the ability to be out the pitch either. , he isn't confident enough up the pitch to take scoring opportunities. Sure a more mobile Lynch is a far better option.
Martin Bradley i think is doing well enough from having just broke into squad. Personally would keep him there.
Tonight was the worst display from Derry in 4 years, flat, lazy, soft on ball naïve when on the ball. Lads pointing and moaning at eachother.

Stickittotheman

Quote from: Ryan O on February 22, 2025, 10:15:14 PMWhy is Mc Carron not getting a mention for two absolute shocking displays in last two weeks. His work ethic in a Derry jersey is a disgrace. Tohill is poor on the ball but he puts his heart amd sole into it.

We are regularly getting caught with one of our main me as 1 of the 3 forwards, Glass, Rogers, CD. This is poor game management. At one time tonight 3 up front were Glass, Mc Guigan and Paul Cassidy three big leaders reduced to 3/4mins of spectating.

Neil Mc Nicholl is miles off the standard, not a county keeper as we know but he hasn't the ability to be out the pitch either. , he isn't confident enough up the pitch to take scoring opportunities. Sure a more mobile Lynch is a far better option.
Martin Bradley i think is doing well enough from having just broke into squad. Personally would keep him there.
Tonight was the worst display from Derry in 4 years, flat, lazy, soft on ball naïve when on the ball. Lads pointing and moaning at eachother.

You seem to have something against McCarron might be the reason no one else has mentioned it. He gets the worst word in your mouth. I wouldn't have him on the team but he is nowhere near as bad as you make out. Agree with the rest of your post though.

Ryan O

Quote from: Stickittotheman on February 22, 2025, 10:35:28 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on February 22, 2025, 10:15:14 PMWhy is Mc Carron not getting a mention for two absolute shocking displays in last two weeks. His work ethic in a Derry jersey is a disgrace. Tohill is poor on the ball but he puts his heart amd sole into it.

We are regularly getting caught with one of our main me as 1 of the 3 forwards, Glass, Rogers, CD. This is poor game management. At one time tonight 3 up front were Glass, Mc Guigan and Paul Cassidy three big leaders reduced to 3/4mins of spectating.

Neil Mc Nicholl is miles off the standard, not a county keeper as we know but he hasn't the ability to be out the pitch either. , he isn't confident enough up the pitch to take scoring opportunities. Sure a more mobile Lynch is a far better option.
Martin Bradley i think is doing well enough from having just broke into squad. Personally would keep him there.
Tonight was the worst display from Derry in 4 years, flat, lazy, soft on ball naïve when on the ball. Lads pointing and moaning at eachother.

You seem to have something against McCarron might be the reason no one else has mentioned it. He gets the worst word in your mouth. I wouldn't have him on the team but he is nowhere near as bad as you make out. Agree with the rest of your post though.
Quote from: Stickittotheman on February 22, 2025, 10:35:28 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on February 22, 2025, 10:15:14 PMWhy is Mc Carron not getting a mention for two absolute shocking displays in last two weeks. His work ethic in a Derry jersey is a disgrace. Tohill is poor on the ball but he puts his heart amd sole into it.

We are regularly getting caught with one of our main me as 1 of the 3 forwards, Glass, Rogers, CD. This is poor game management. At one time tonight 3 up front were Glass, Mc Guigan and Paul Cassidy three big leaders reduced to 3/4mins of spectating.

Neil Mc Nicholl is miles off the standard, not a county keeper as we know but he hasn't the ability to be out the pitch either. , he isn't confident enough up the pitch to take scoring opportunities. Sure a more mobile Lynch is a far better option.
Martin Bradley i think is doing well enough from having just broke into squad. Personally would keep him there.
Tonight was the worst display from Derry in 4 years, flat, lazy, soft on ball naïve when on the ball. Lads pointing and moaning at eachother.

You seem to have something against McCarron might be the reason no one else has mentioned it. He gets the worst word in your mouth. I wouldn't have him on the team but he is nowhere near as bad as you make out. Agree with the rest of your post though.
Just think the lad is totally out of his depth. Would he make one of Glens starting 6 forwards?

ONEDerry

#8576
Quote from: Ryan O on February 22, 2025, 10:39:34 PM
Quote from: Stickittotheman on February 22, 2025, 10:35:28 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on February 22, 2025, 10:15:14 PMWhy is Mc Carron not getting a mention for two absolute shocking displays in last two weeks. His work ethic in a Derry jersey is a disgrace. Tohill is poor on the ball but he puts his heart amd sole into it.

We are regularly getting caught with one of our main me as 1 of the 3 forwards, Glass, Rogers, CD. This is poor game management. At one time tonight 3 up front were Glass, Mc Guigan and Paul Cassidy three big leaders reduced to 3/4mins of spectating.

Neil Mc Nicholl is miles off the standard, not a county keeper as we know but he hasn't the ability to be out the pitch either. , he isn't confident enough up the pitch to take scoring opportunities. Sure a more mobile Lynch is a far better option.
Martin Bradley i think is doing well enough from having just broke into squad. Personally would keep him there.
Tonight was the worst display from Derry in 4 years, flat, lazy, soft on ball naïve when on the ball. Lads pointing and moaning at eachother.

You seem to have something against McCarron might be the reason no one else has mentioned it. He gets the worst word in your mouth. I wouldn't have him on the team but he is nowhere near as bad as you make out. Agree with the rest of your post though.
Quote from: Stickittotheman on February 22, 2025, 10:35:28 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on February 22, 2025, 10:15:14 PMWhy is Mc Carron not getting a mention for two absolute shocking displays in last two weeks. His work ethic in a Derry jersey is a disgrace. Tohill is poor on the ball but he puts his heart amd sole into it.

We are regularly getting caught with one of our main me as 1 of the 3 forwards, Glass, Rogers, CD. This is poor game management. At one time tonight 3 up front were Glass, Mc Guigan and Paul Cassidy three big leaders reduced to 3/4mins of spectating.

Neil Mc Nicholl is miles off the standard, not a county keeper as we know but he hasn't the ability to be out the pitch either. , he isn't confident enough up the pitch to take scoring opportunities. Sure a more mobile Lynch is a far better option.
Martin Bradley i think is doing well enough from having just broke into squad. Personally would keep him there.
Tonight was the worst display from Derry in 4 years, flat, lazy, soft on ball naïve when on the ball. Lads pointing and moaning at eachother.

You seem to have something against McCarron might be the reason no one else has mentioned it. He gets the worst word in your mouth. I wouldn't have him on the team but he is nowhere near as bad as you make out. Agree with the rest of your post though.
Just think the lad is totally out of his depth. Would he make one of Glens starting 6 forwards?

Some like to pick on certain players because they haven't a clue. Struggling everywhere but let's pick on someone. Obviously someone with a grudge

Bring back club football

Finding the Rory Gallagher love in very interesting.

Look at the facts.

Derry did very well in his tenure during covid times but struggled a lot before hand even given the time he had to work with the squad.

Which is no surprise really as they were in full flight when the rest of the country was in lock down.

He is undoubtedly a good coach and a good manager but the pedestal some Derry people have put him on is quite puzzling.  There's any number of people who could do as good a job of let do their work. 

His regime is McGuinness like and leaves a large degree of carnage in its wake. 

He has caused havoc in the background following his necessary removal. 

Looking at Donegal in 2024 and 2025 given the players Gallagher had at his disposal in his time there you could reasonably argue he really underachieved in his term there. They had a serious squad of players in his tenure. We won't even discuss the carnage that Aidan O'Rourke and Paddy Bradley oversaw.

Long story short, decent coach/manager but not the messiah portrayed and the longer his shadow looms in the background the worse it is for Derry gaa.  In a way I've zero sympathy for Tally. He's another one of these careeer managers/coaches. In another way I do as it's a serious mess. 

Ryan O

Quote from: ONEDerry on February 22, 2025, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on February 22, 2025, 10:39:34 PM
Quote from: Stickittotheman on February 22, 2025, 10:35:28 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on February 22, 2025, 10:15:14 PMWhy is Mc Carron not getting a mention for two absolute shocking displays in last two weeks. His work ethic in a Derry jersey is a disgrace. Tohill is poor on the ball but he puts his heart amd sole into it.

We are regularly getting caught with one of our main me as 1 of the 3 forwards, Glass, Rogers, CD. This is poor game management. At one time tonight 3 up front were Glass, Mc Guigan and Paul Cassidy three big leaders reduced to 3/4mins of spectating.

Neil Mc Nicholl is miles off the standard, not a county keeper as we know but he hasn't the ability to be out the pitch either. , he isn't confident enough up the pitch to take scoring opportunities. Sure a more mobile Lynch is a far better option.
Martin Bradley i think is doing well enough from having just broke into squad. Personally would keep him there.
Tonight was the worst display from Derry in 4 years, flat, lazy, soft on ball naïve when on the ball. Lads pointing and moaning at eachother.

You seem to have something against McCarron might be the reason no one else has mentioned it. He gets the worst word in your mouth. I wouldn't have him on the team but he is nowhere near as bad as you make out. Agree with the rest of your post though.
Quote from: Stickittotheman on February 22, 2025, 10:35:28 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on February 22, 2025, 10:15:14 PMWhy is Mc Carron not getting a mention for two absolute shocking displays in last two weeks. His work ethic in a Derry jersey is a disgrace. Tohill is poor on the ball but he puts his heart amd sole into it.

We are regularly getting caught with one of our main me as 1 of the 3 forwards, Glass, Rogers, CD. This is poor game management. At one time tonight 3 up front were Glass, Mc Guigan and Paul Cassidy three big leaders reduced to 3/4mins of spectating.

Neil Mc Nicholl is miles off the standard, not a county keeper as we know but he hasn't the ability to be out the pitch either. , he isn't confident enough up the pitch to take scoring opportunities. Sure a more mobile Lynch is a far better option.
Martin Bradley i think is doing well enough from having just broke into squad. Personally would keep him there.
Tonight was the worst display from Derry in 4 years, flat, lazy, soft on ball naïve when on the ball. Lads pointing and moaning at eachother.

You seem to have something against McCarron might be the reason no one else has mentioned it. He gets the worst word in your mouth. I wouldn't have him on the team but he is nowhere near as bad as you make out. Agree with the rest of your post though.
Just think the lad is totally out of his depth. Would he make one of Glens starting 6 forwards?

Some like to pick on certain players because they haven't a clue. Struggling everywhere but let's pick on someone. Obviously someone with a grudge
Quote from: ONEDerry on February 22, 2025, 10:47:30 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on February 22, 2025, 10:39:34 PM
Quote from: Stickittotheman on February 22, 2025, 10:35:28 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on February 22, 2025, 10:15:14 PMWhy is Mc Carron not getting a mention for two absolute shocking displays in last two weeks. His work ethic in a Derry jersey is a disgrace. Tohill is poor on the ball but he puts his heart amd sole into it.

We are regularly getting caught with one of our main me as 1 of the 3 forwards, Glass, Rogers, CD. This is poor game management. At one time tonight 3 up front were Glass, Mc Guigan and Paul Cassidy three big leaders reduced to 3/4mins of spectating.

Neil Mc Nicholl is miles off the standard, not a county keeper as we know but he hasn't the ability to be out the pitch either. , he isn't confident enough up the pitch to take scoring opportunities. Sure a more mobile Lynch is a far better option.
Martin Bradley i think is doing well enough from having just broke into squad. Personally would keep him there.
Tonight was the worst display from Derry in 4 years, flat, lazy, soft on ball naïve when on the ball. Lads pointing and moaning at eachother.

You seem to have something against McCarron might be the reason no one else has mentioned it. He gets the worst word in your mouth. I wouldn't have him on the team but he is nowhere near as bad as you make out. Agree with the rest of your post though.
Quote from: Stickittotheman on February 22, 2025, 10:35:28 PM
Quote from: Ryan O on February 22, 2025, 10:15:14 PMWhy is Mc Carron not getting a mention for two absolute shocking displays in last two weeks. His work ethic in a Derry jersey is a disgrace. Tohill is poor on the ball but he puts his heart amd sole into it.

We are regularly getting caught with one of our main me as 1 of the 3 forwards, Glass, Rogers, CD. This is poor game management. At one time tonight 3 up front were Glass, Mc Guigan and Paul Cassidy three big leaders reduced to 3/4mins of spectating.

Neil Mc Nicholl is miles off the standard, not a county keeper as we know but he hasn't the ability to be out the pitch either. , he isn't confident enough up the pitch to take scoring opportunities. Sure a more mobile Lynch is a far better option.
Martin Bradley i think is doing well enough from having just broke into squad. Personally would keep him there.
Tonight was the worst display from Derry in 4 years, flat, lazy, soft on ball naïve when on the ball. Lads pointing and moaning at eachother.

You seem to have something against McCarron might be the reason no one else has mentioned it. He gets the worst word in your mouth. I wouldn't have him on the team but he is nowhere near as bad as you make out. Agree with the rest of your post though.
Just think the lad is totally out of his depth. Would he make one of Glens starting 6 forwards?

Some like to pick on certain players because they haven't a clue. Struggling everywhere but let's pick on someone. Obviously someone with a grudge
Yes I tramped down the road to Dublin to hold a grudge. You tell me who else in the last two weeks who started both games has had as little impact?  How many on that bench have got no opportunities this year at all. Look how ruthless he hooked Mc Grogan today? Don't come with some poor personal vendetta story when he's getting more than fair share of game time..

onefineday

That was horrible, we didn't seem to have a plan at all.
I don't know if it's the rules and fear of violating them, but we'd virtually no support play, no physicality, zero invention going forward and absolutely no dynamism.

We've been spoiled watching great running and support at pace over the past 5 years and now this?

Someone else pointed out that we're not handling the 3 up tactically and it's so true, Glass isolated up there a load of times, hopefully by accident and not design, to my mind he's been the heartbeat of our defence, shadowing, organising and closing down space, he can't be just standing there at midfield watching whilst others run round headlessly.

Murray definitely made a difference when he came on, but even if he'd been on from the start we were so far away it wouldn't have changed anything. Maybe we're playing possum??