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Red10

Quote from: Maghera was Black on November 05, 2024, 01:52:21 PMFirst post as a long term supporter, i was drew here to see what the thoughts are on the situation the county finds itself in. The long drawn out process can only be described as farcical at this point.

We know the board reached out to the clubs (suspiciously didn't ask the clubs after Ciaran Meenagh stepped away) with the conclusion being that Gallagher was the choice of clubs along with the leadership group of players. When news of this filtered out the press jumped on it and that's when we seem to have hit the rocks it started with Gary Coleman's article in the IN, Belfast Telegraph asking women's rights groups for their opinion, Armagh fans on social media saying they will never watch or support Derry again when on tv, social media users who have no vested interest in our county or sport in general offering their 'educated' opinion on family law and legal matters. And so the board/sponsors/club Derry seems to have came to a disagreement about rehiring Gallagher, and Keenan then broke rank and made a statement to the media that Gallagher is out of the running this was apparently done without the consent of Barker.

Dating back to before Harte was appointed Keenan had said we will be only looking for experienced inter-county managers at a high level, this was also stated by players - Glass on the podcast with Niblock. Rogers and Chrissy also stated around this time what players want a name that jumps off the page and makes you sit up and take notice. The board seem to have tried with talks of Horan, O'Rourke even Jim Gavin was mention last September before the shock news that Harte got the gig.

Roll on 12 months we are no further forward, rightly or wrongly the board had the chance to fully distance themselves from Rory over a year ago and didn't do it and then again after Harte and Horse walked and didn't do it until as i said above Keenan's one sentence statement after media got wiff of a Gallagher return. We were and are playing catch up ever since. Rory's shadow hangs long over us and that has to sit with the board they either had to stick or twist with Rory and yet they didn't really want to do one or the other. By not being decisive with Gallagher we have found ourselves now being linked to rookie coaches with no experience whatsoever of Intercounty management all what Keenan said originally back last September we wouldn't do, the players want a name that stops you in your tracks and jumps off the back pages yet now we just get linked with rookies... Irish News had Doran in the hot seat and said we should be lucky as we were nothing but a D3 team. Now Johnny McBride, Paul McFlynn, Barry Dillon, Paddy Bradley, Paul McIvor, Ronan Devlin all get the Irish News rumours treatment.

The only think we really know is the management saga needs to draw to a close soon, with around 4 weeks until inter-county training can officially resume. The direction and ambition we have for the team will be for all to see with who ever takes the reigns.

Armagh fans and Gary Coleman are not the reason Gallagher didn't get the nod again. Many within Derry including a number of clubs were opposed to him coming back. Some players need to have a long hard look at themselves. Undermining anyone else who has been mentioned for the job by still showing their preference for that man.

JE23

Quote from: Red10 on November 06, 2024, 10:17:34 AM
Quote from: Maghera was Black on November 05, 2024, 01:52:21 PMFirst post as a long term supporter, i was drew here to see what the thoughts are on the situation the county finds itself in. The long drawn out process can only be described as farcical at this point.

We know the board reached out to the clubs (suspiciously didn't ask the clubs after Ciaran Meenagh stepped away) with the conclusion being that Gallagher was the choice of clubs along with the leadership group of players. When news of this filtered out the press jumped on it and that's when we seem to have hit the rocks it started with Gary Coleman's article in the IN, Belfast Telegraph asking women's rights groups for their opinion, Armagh fans on social media saying they will never watch or support Derry again when on tv, social media users who have no vested interest in our county or sport in general offering their 'educated' opinion on family law and legal matters. And so the board/sponsors/club Derry seems to have came to a disagreement about rehiring Gallagher, and Keenan then broke rank and made a statement to the media that Gallagher is out of the running this was apparently done without the consent of Barker.

Dating back to before Harte was appointed Keenan had said we will be only looking for experienced inter-county managers at a high level, this was also stated by players - Glass on the podcast with Niblock. Rogers and Chrissy also stated around this time what players want a name that jumps off the page and makes you sit up and take notice. The board seem to have tried with talks of Horan, O'Rourke even Jim Gavin was mention last September before the shock news that Harte got the gig.

Roll on 12 months we are no further forward, rightly or wrongly the board had the chance to fully distance themselves from Rory over a year ago and didn't do it and then again after Harte and Horse walked and didn't do it until as i said above Keenan's one sentence statement after media got wiff of a Gallagher return. We were and are playing catch up ever since. Rory's shadow hangs long over us and that has to sit with the board they either had to stick or twist with Rory and yet they didn't really want to do one or the other. By not being decisive with Gallagher we have found ourselves now being linked to rookie coaches with no experience whatsoever of Intercounty management all what Keenan said originally back last September we wouldn't do, the players want a name that stops you in your tracks and jumps off the back pages yet now we just get linked with rookies... Irish News had Doran in the hot seat and said we should be lucky as we were nothing but a D3 team. Now Johnny McBride, Paul McFlynn, Barry Dillon, Paddy Bradley, Paul McIvor, Ronan Devlin all get the Irish News rumours treatment.

The only think we really know is the management saga needs to draw to a close soon, with around 4 weeks until inter-county training can officially resume. The direction and ambition we have for the team will be for all to see with who ever takes the reigns.

Armagh fans and Gary Coleman are not the reason Gallagher didn't get the nod again. Many within Derry including a number of clubs were opposed to him coming back. Some players need to have a long hard look at themselves. Undermining anyone else who has been mentioned for the job by still showing their preference for that man.

Yes sounded like the biggest obstacle to getting RG back in was actually the incoming main sponsor not being happy about it (understandably). 

shamrocker12

Quote from: JE23 on November 06, 2024, 10:25:53 AM
Quote from: Red10 on November 06, 2024, 10:17:34 AM
Quote from: Maghera was Black on November 05, 2024, 01:52:21 PMFirst post as a long term supporter, i was drew here to see what the thoughts are on the situation the county finds itself in. The long drawn out process can only be described as farcical at this point.

We know the board reached out to the clubs (suspiciously didn't ask the clubs after Ciaran Meenagh stepped away) with the conclusion being that Gallagher was the choice of clubs along with the leadership group of players. When news of this filtered out the press jumped on it and that's when we seem to have hit the rocks it started with Gary Coleman's article in the IN, Belfast Telegraph asking women's rights groups for their opinion, Armagh fans on social media saying they will never watch or support Derry again when on tv, social media users who have no vested interest in our county or sport in general offering their 'educated' opinion on family law and legal matters. And so the board/sponsors/club Derry seems to have came to a disagreement about rehiring Gallagher, and Keenan then broke rank and made a statement to the media that Gallagher is out of the running this was apparently done without the consent of Barker.

Dating back to before Harte was appointed Keenan had said we will be only looking for experienced inter-county managers at a high level, this was also stated by players - Glass on the podcast with Niblock. Rogers and Chrissy also stated around this time what players want a name that jumps off the page and makes you sit up and take notice. The board seem to have tried with talks of Horan, O'Rourke even Jim Gavin was mention last September before the shock news that Harte got the gig.

Roll on 12 months we are no further forward, rightly or wrongly the board had the chance to fully distance themselves from Rory over a year ago and didn't do it and then again after Harte and Horse walked and didn't do it until as i said above Keenan's one sentence statement after media got wiff of a Gallagher return. We were and are playing catch up ever since. Rory's shadow hangs long over us and that has to sit with the board they either had to stick or twist with Rory and yet they didn't really want to do one or the other. By not being decisive with Gallagher we have found ourselves now being linked to rookie coaches with no experience whatsoever of Intercounty management all what Keenan said originally back last September we wouldn't do, the players want a name that stops you in your tracks and jumps off the back pages yet now we just get linked with rookies... Irish News had Doran in the hot seat and said we should be lucky as we were nothing but a D3 team. Now Johnny McBride, Paul McFlynn, Barry Dillon, Paddy Bradley, Paul McIvor, Ronan Devlin all get the Irish News rumours treatment.

The only think we really know is the management saga needs to draw to a close soon, with around 4 weeks until inter-county training can officially resume. The direction and ambition we have for the team will be for all to see with who ever takes the reigns.

Armagh fans and Gary Coleman are not the reason Gallagher didn't get the nod again. Many within Derry including a number of clubs were opposed to him coming back. Some players need to have a long hard look at themselves. Undermining anyone else who has been mentioned for the job by still showing their preference for that man.

Yes sounded like the biggest obstacle to getting RG back in was actually the incoming main sponsor not being happy about it (understandably). 

That incoming sponsors home club had RG taking part in an underage coaching session not that long ago around about the time that rumours were he was getting the job. And that's a fact. Supposedly parents of the children involved weren't happy about it. So I wonder who within that club gave him the go ahead to take the session?

STREET FIGHTER

What incoming new sponsor?

Is there to be a change??

shamrocker12

Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on November 06, 2024, 01:47:39 PMWhat incoming new sponsor?

Is there to be a change??

Iv heard LCC oil was supposed to be Derrys new sponsor. But at this stage who the hell knows. Can't get a manager. Probably mess sponsorship up too  😂

LoughNeagh

Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 06, 2024, 01:55:45 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on November 06, 2024, 01:47:39 PMWhat incoming new sponsor?

Is there to be a change??

Iv heard LCC oil was supposed to be Derrys new sponsor. But at this stage who the hell knows. Can't get a manager. Probably mess sponsorship up too  😂

can't wait for the nice LCC Blue logo mixed in with the red and white...
View from the lough!

shamrocker12

Quote from: LoughNeagh on November 06, 2024, 02:05:41 PM
Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 06, 2024, 01:55:45 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on November 06, 2024, 01:47:39 PMWhat incoming new sponsor?

Is there to be a change??

Iv heard LCC oil was supposed to be Derrys new sponsor. But at this stage who the hell knows. Can't get a manager. Probably mess sponsorship up too  😂

can't wait for the nice LCC Blue logo mixed in with the red and white...

Theyl be definitely calling us Londonderry now the hoors lol although LCC do own GO as well and GO is on the ladies jerseys which has the red and white logo. Maybe they'll go down that route

Scorcher1

Tyrone away for the first game of the league. tough one to get going. what we thinking?

Wildweasel74

Tyrone away? I think nxt year a write off already to be honest. Wouldnt be worried if we get relegated, Armagh and Donegal proofed high level fball can be played from Div.2. No management set up, no new panel. Everything been left way too late. How a late manager ever gonna know any possible new players if he's saw little of them.

Uncle Phil

Would absolutely love to see Ciaran Meenagh and Marty Boyle in the Derry management team.

Several reasons why I think they would be top appointments (other than my own personal preference):

1. Both are available to my knowledge
2. Both have achieved spadefuls more than some of the ex-players being mentioned (who wouldn't even be considered if they weren't ex-players)
3. Players from the Derry minor teams have a great connection with Marty
4. Meenagh's one of the absolute top coaches in the country, and has great respect amongst current Derry players

Scorcher1


Uncle Phil

Quote from: Scorcher1 on November 06, 2024, 03:23:09 PMis meenagh not with down?

I heard he left, could be wrong... I think he should at the very least be considered for the Derry Manager role. He should have been asked to interview / been offered the job after RG left if MOR declared himself out of the running.

JohnDenver

Quote from: lenny on November 06, 2024, 08:51:00 AM
Quote from: JGDoire on November 05, 2024, 09:15:45 PMTotal shambles. I also would not be surprised to see RG in the hot seat in a couple of weeks.

He hasn't been convicted of anything, it's only a social media accusation against him. The most important job in the world has just gone to a convicted felon and rapist who secured millions of votes.

On one hand you're saying it's only social media accusation against RG, then on the other hand you repeat the rapist claim about Trump - which he hasn't been convicted of.

Surely this is speaking out of both sides of the same mouth....

Morals can't be bought.

Interstellar

Michael Murphy out of retirement for Donegal. Are there any retired Derry players worth enticing back?

lenny

Quote from: Interstellar on November 06, 2024, 03:52:59 PMMichael Murphy out of retirement for Donegal. Are there any retired Derry players worth enticing back?

Gary Coleman as long as RG isn't the manager.