Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[restorepride]

Considering two of the clubs who have apparently shut down have phoned my own club looking for friendlies THIS WEEKEND, am not sure how sincere the announcements actually are. And if it was the case, how much will they know by Monday?? Obviously should a player actually test positive this will change but the announcements over the last few days in most cases were just to be seen to do something in my opinion.

What 2 clubs? Zero problem naming and shaming if this is the case

How much will they know by Monday? ... There were players tested on Friday, so I'm sure they'll know by Monday.

All depends when the phone calls were made - if friendly was planned for this weekend then contact probably needed to be made by middle of the week at latest, before precautions were taken.  Clubs deserve the benefit of the doubt and there are solid enough GAA clubs involved here, very community-based, who are clearly taking no chances.  Not a call any GAA club wants to make but the right call.

[JoG2]

Considering two of the clubs who have apparently shut down have phoned my own club looking for friendlies THIS WEEKEND, am not sure how sincere the announcements actually are. And if it was the case, how much will they know by Monday?? Obviously should a player actually test positive this will change but the announcements over the last few days in most cases were just to be seen to do something in my opinion.

What 2 clubs? Zero problem naming and shaming if this is the case

How much will they know by Monday? ... There were players tested on Friday, so I'm sure they'll know by Monday.

All depends when the phone calls were made - if friendly was planned for this weekend then contact probably needed to be made by middle of the week at latest, before precautions were taken.  Clubs deserve the benefit of the doubt and there are solid enough GAA clubs involved here, very community-based, who are clearly taking no chances.  Not a call any GAA club wants to make but the right call.

I'd agree with all of this, but you would have to be living under a rock not to know Craigbane announced on Thursday and the rest who have geographical, family, work or challenge match links followed suit on Friday. The poster should clarify his post.

[Cluborcountywhynotboth]

I won't be naming and shaming clubs but both calls were made yesterday for games tomorrow. I am assuming maybe other teams let them down or whatever but am not sure on that. As for test results if you really think all those clubs players will be tested on Friday then your living in cloud cookoo land, a good few of the Limavady, Drumsurn etc... boys are probably in the sardine tin that is Grannie Annies right now as I type this.
Am not saying the clubs made the announcements out of badness or to fool anyone but I also don't think they were done as a way of making any tangible difference. Again this will change obviously if someone involved in the playing or managing side actually tests positive. 

[JoG2]

I won't be naming and shaming clubs but both calls were made yesterday for games tomorrow. I am assuming maybe other teams let them down or whatever but am not sure on that. As for test results if you really think all those clubs players will be tested on Friday then your living in cloud cookoo land, a good few of the Limavady, Drumsurn etc... boys are probably in the sardine tin that is Grannie Annies right now as I type this.
Am not saying the clubs made the announcements out of badness or to fool anyone but I also don't think they were done as a way of making any tangible difference. Again this will change obviously if someone involved in the playing or managing side actually tests positive.

I didn't say which club had players tested, but it's neither of those 2 clubs you've mentioned above. No harm to you, but unless you name the 2 clubs (either on here or as a PM) you're casting aspersions on all 10 clubs. 

[Cluborcountywhynotboth]

You didn't name any clubs either, we are talking generally about 10 clubs who have suspended activities and you said that tests would be taken on Friday and results back, I am just pointing out that of the ten clubs very very few players will take tests, if you think otherwise you are incredibly naive.
Also why would I PM you with names? are you the moral authority of Derry GAA or this board? I've said that two of the clubs who are supposedly closed asked for a friendly tomorrow after the announcements. If you don't believe that then fine but I've no obligation to name anyone to you or on this board, it's a discussion board not a court.

[restorepride]

You didn't name any clubs either, we are talking generally about 10 clubs who have suspended activities and you said that tests would be taken on Friday and results back, I am just pointing out that of the ten clubs very very few players will take tests, if you think otherwise you are incredibly naive.
Also why would I PM you with names? are you the moral authority of Derry GAA or this board? I've said that two of the clubs who are supposedly closed asked for a friendly tomorrow after the announcements. If you don't believe that then fine but I've no obligation to name anyone to you or on this board, it's a discussion board not a court.

It is hard to believe however that any club chairperson or covid officer would sanction the facilitation of a friendly while all activities are suspended and risk the backlash from families and community if infections spread.  Every community has its medically vulnerable members and in a rural setting in particular, everyone would know if a match took place.  Does not stack up for me on any level.  However if true, for the sake of public health, my advice would be to request that your club chairperson informs the Derry County Board.  The 'court' you mention might come in to play sooner rather than later if public health has been knowingly compromised. 

[toby47]

A senior player from one of the clubs has now tested positive, what is the protocol now?

[JoG2]

You didn't name any clubs either, we are talking generally about 10 clubs who have suspended activities and you said that tests would be taken on Friday and results back, I am just pointing out that of the ten clubs very very few players will take tests, if you think otherwise you are incredibly naive.
Also why would I PM you with names? are you the moral authority of Derry GAA or this board? I've said that two of the clubs who are supposedly closed asked for a friendly tomorrow after the announcements. If you don't believe that then fine but I've no obligation to name anyone to you or on this board, it's a discussion board not a court.

Maybe because I wasn't casting doubt over 10 local clubs? If you can't name the 2 clubs, I'm calling bullsh1t .

I did indeed say players were getting tested on Friday, and that was coming direct from the players manager on Thursday.

Moral authority, really? I was asking for clarity on your very serious accusation

[rodney trotter]

A player from the Banagher has tested positive

[toby47]

A player from the Banagher has tested positive

All team mates have been tested. Any player that gets a negative test result back can continue to train.

Banagher hurlers are playing colaraine in the championship this Saturday

[Cluborcountywhynotboth]

You didn't name any clubs either, we are talking generally about 10 clubs who have suspended activities and you said that tests would be taken on Friday and results back, I am just pointing out that of the ten clubs very very few players will take tests, if you think otherwise you are incredibly naive.
Also why would I PM you with names? are you the moral authority of Derry GAA or this board? I've said that two of the clubs who are supposedly closed asked for a friendly tomorrow after the announcements. If you don't believe that then fine but I've no obligation to name anyone to you or on this board, it's a discussion board not a court.

Maybe because I wasn't casting doubt over 10 local clubs? If you can't name the 2 clubs, I'm calling bullsh1t .

I did indeed say players were getting tested on Friday, and that was coming direct from the players manager on Thursday.

Moral authority, really? I was asking for clarity on your very serious accusation

I don't doubt that some players got tested, but as I said, if you think that all players from all 10 teams got tested then that's simply naive. And if they didn't then shutting down for the weekend was pointless and just for optics as I suggested.
You are entirely entitled to think it's bulls*it it is your prerogative; I was just passing on what I heard same as you were in regards the tests.

[JoG2]

You didn't name any clubs either, we are talking generally about 10 clubs who have suspended activities and you said that tests would be taken on Friday and results back, I am just pointing out that of the ten clubs very very few players will take tests, if you think otherwise you are incredibly naive.
Also why would I PM you with names? are you the moral authority of Derry GAA or this board? I've said that two of the clubs who are supposedly closed asked for a friendly tomorrow after the announcements. If you don't believe that then fine but I've no obligation to name anyone to you or on this board, it's a discussion board not a court.

Maybe because I wasn't casting doubt over 10 local clubs? If you can't name the 2 clubs, I'm calling bullsh1t .

I did indeed say players were getting tested on Friday, and that was coming direct from the players manager on Thursday.

Moral authority, really? I was asking for clarity on your very serious accusation

I don't doubt that some players got tested, but as I said, if you think that all players from all 10 teams got tested then that's simply naive. And if they didn't then shutting down for the weekend was pointless and just for optics as I suggested.
You are entirely entitled to think it's bulls*it it is your prerogative; I was just passing on what I heard same as you were in regards the tests.

Again, I didn't say this

You heard? You stated as fact on 2 occasions that 2 clubs that had suspended activities  looked for friendlies last weekend. Now you're declaring it 2nd hand information. Loose lips, sink ships. As regards what I'd said, I was dealing in facts from the top man at the club I was speaking with re Covid testing of players etc. Definitely not going to come on hear spouting hearsay as fact during these times.

[Cluborcountywhynotboth]

Your dealing in semantics to try and suit your narrative. Your initial post said that players got tested, you didn't specify how many or how many clubs, it was only later that you narrowed it down. My whole point is that there was 10 clubs who closed, 2 looked for friendlies over the weekend and I would very very much doubt that every player from these clubs then went and got tested, the majority are now open for business again. So what was the point in the closures? Someone who had it and didn't get tested still has it 3 days later. Some clubs may have acted genuinely but mainly it was an optic exercise. If not, close for 2 weeks and demand every player gets a test.

And you were told but someone in a club, I was told by someone in a club yet mine is hearsay and yours is facts 🤔

[JoG2]

A bit like saving face, that's your words to clubs looking out for their players, members and local community.
You then mentioned 2 anonymous clubs, from the 10, that tried to arrange challenge matches whilst their committee / Covid officers had suspended activity. And you say I'm trying to suit a narrative... You're a spoofer, no harm to you

[restorepride]

A bit like saving face, that's your words to clubs looking out for their players, members and local community.
You then mentioned 2 anonymous clubs, from the 10, that tried to arrange challenge matches whilst their committee / Covid officers had suspended activity. And you say I'm trying to suit a narrative... You're a spoofer, no harm to you

I agree, clubs did the correct thing.  There are now 37 positive cases from this story, 122 people have been advised to self-isolate and 140 contacts identified.  That is the narrative, that is the point of the closures.   An "optic exercise"??  Now, that is playing with semantics.