Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[jb77]

That was the prime time for to get that team to win something, u20s will start to tail off again now with the last couple of minor teams nowhere near as strong

What are you talking about. Next years u20's were 2024 All Ireland minor champions?

Rogers, McEldowney, McGuckian, Small, Higgins all starters tonight who i believe are over the bar next year

Not one of them names mentioned anywhere near the standard of getting a county senior call up. That being said they probably will and won't be near their clubs for another 2 months!

Rogers has great potential but these players almost always take time.

Eoin McElholm was one of the stand out players at U20 in the past decade and he's taken time to come along. Tyrones previous 2024 U20 POTY, was dropped from the panel.

[GTP]

The team has good players but lacks somebody who can do something a bit different in the forward line. McGuckian played one really good pass for Dillon to get a score but other than that it was all handpass in and pop it out again. It did seem to be a team which hasn't adapted to the change in rules.
I rewatched the Tyrone goal, and I am bias but counted three instances of overcarrying in the build-up. The referee had been pretty strict on fouling until it got close, then seemed to let everything go. The same could be argued for the build up to the last Derry point.

[Uncle Phil]

Gallagher some ego

His comments weren't controversial and hard to disagree with. Also, he's well enough qualified to comment on such matters given his managerial credentials.

[Mario]

Gallagher some ego

His comments weren't controversial and hard to disagree with. Also, he's well enough qualified to comment on such matters given his managerial credentials.

A lot of his posts focus on the manager v manager battle rather than the actual teams. Says a lot about his own mindset and ego going into games. He doesn't hold back.

[Uncle Phil]

Gallagher some ego

His comments weren't controversial and hard to disagree with. Also, he's well enough qualified to comment on such matters given his managerial credentials.

A lot of his posts focus on the manager v manager battle rather than the actual teams. Says a lot about his own mindset and ego going into games. He doesn't hold back.

Notwithstanding the various reports on his personal life, on a purely GAA managerial level, I think he's brilliant. Enjoy his intensity.

[Rawhide]

Pure crap, a team playing with fear of Donegal, and that message had to have delivered by the manager in whatever what they communicated to the squad. No body taking anyone on except McGuckin, slow laborious play with no purpose. Higgins is a quality player. A coached team that took one of the best u20 forwards in Ulster out of game in any threatening way. Hopefully this is a wake up call about how not to play

Was at the game yesterday evening, the above were the comments I made on the Donegal game a few weeks ago. Make no mistake, this is the result of coaching. Literally no kicking of the ball when the space was available to kick it forward-however I could live with that if we had purpose in our attacking play, if we were structured & movement to create space to allow players to take the defender on, but no, we were so static. There simply was no evidence of coaching weaving movements that shift defenders that then allow for a space that then allows the forward to take his opposing player on. Gallaghers comments were crude, but unfortunately blunt in truth. Last years u20 team played exactly the same way.

[tbrick18]

Pure crap, a team playing with fear of Donegal, and that message had to have delivered by the manager in whatever what they communicated to the squad. No body taking anyone on except McGuckin, slow laborious play with no purpose. Higgins is a quality player. A coached team that took one of the best u20 forwards in Ulster out of game in any threatening way. Hopefully this is a wake up call about how not to play

Was at the game yesterday evening, the above were the comments I made on the Donegal game a few weeks ago. Make no mistake, this is the result of coaching. Literally no kicking of the ball when the space was available to kick it forward-however I could live with that if we had purpose in our attacking play, if we were structured & movement to create space to allow players to take the defender on, but no, we were so static. There simply was no evidence of coaching weaving movements that shift defenders that then allow for a space that then allows the forward to take his opposing player on. Gallaghers comments were crude, but unfortunately blunt in truth. Last years u20 team played exactly the same way.

The last 2 years u20s played like this and Tyrone went onto win AI's where I felt we had better players, coached to play in a way that stifled them.
It's frustrating when so many of us see the same thing but it's not being addressed.

On u20s progressing to senior - I think part of the reason this is now less likely is that there's too big a step in terms of physicality and intensity coming from u20, as opposed to u21. Strong u21 players were more likely to be equipped to step up, imo.

[Uncle Phil]

Pure crap, a team playing with fear of Donegal, and that message had to have delivered by the manager in whatever what they communicated to the squad. No body taking anyone on except McGuckin, slow laborious play with no purpose. Higgins is a quality player. A coached team that took one of the best u20 forwards in Ulster out of game in any threatening way. Hopefully this is a wake up call about how not to play

Was at the game yesterday evening, the above were the comments I made on the Donegal game a few weeks ago. Make no mistake, this is the result of coaching. Literally no kicking of the ball when the space was available to kick it forward-however I could live with that if we had purpose in our attacking play, if we were structured & movement to create space to allow players to take the defender on, but no, we were so static. There simply was no evidence of coaching weaving movements that shift defenders that then allow for a space that then allows the forward to take his opposing player on. Gallaghers comments were crude, but unfortunately blunt in truth. Last years u20 team played exactly the same way.

The last 2 years u20s played like this and Tyrone went onto win AI's where I felt we had better players, coached to play in a way that stifled them.
It's frustrating when so many of us see the same thing but it's not being addressed.

On u20s progressing to senior - I think part of the reason this is now less likely is that there's too big a step in terms of physicality and intensity coming from u20, as opposed to u21. Strong u21 players were more likely to be equipped to step up, imo.

Agreed. I always felt like the age group changes on the whole, were a load of shite.

[HonDerry]

Gallagher some ego

His comments weren't controversial and hard to disagree with. Also, he's well enough qualified to comment on such matters given his managerial credentials.

A lot of his posts focus on the manager v manager battle rather than the actual teams. Says a lot about his own mindset and ego going into games. He doesn't hold back.

Notwithstanding the various reports on his personal life, on a purely GAA managerial level, I think he's brilliant. Enjoy his intensity.

Given the fact that when Gallagher was Derry manager, he didn't release u20s who were in the senior Derry panel, it sticks in the throat listening to him comment on the current setup.

Irrespective of whether his analysis has merit or not, he more than likely cost Derry at a minimum a U20 Ulster title in 2023 by not releasing Eoin McEvoy and Lachlann Murray. Murray had hardly even been used at senior level, yet was still held back.

With either of those players on the pitch, we would have beaten Down that night, and young players who might never have won anything else at county level would have had their dream come true. Would he like to go on social media and comment on that?

The post last night is just another sign of his lack of self-awareness and yes ego.

I have never seen another manager do the like of this publicly, but guess who makes it a first. A man who already has a big question mark on his moral compass.

[Uncle Phil]

Gallagher some ego

His comments weren't controversial and hard to disagree with. Also, he's well enough qualified to comment on such matters given his managerial credentials.

A lot of his posts focus on the manager v manager battle rather than the actual teams. Says a lot about his own mindset and ego going into games. He doesn't hold back.

Notwithstanding the various reports on his personal life, on a purely GAA managerial level, I think he's brilliant. Enjoy his intensity.

Given the fact that when Gallagher was Derry manager, he didn't release u20s who were in the senior Derry panel, it sticks in the throat listening to him comment on the current setup.

Irrespective of whether his analysis has merit or not, he more than likely cost Derry at a minimum a U20 Ulster title in 2023 by not releasing Eoin McEvoy and Lachlann Murray. Murray had hardly even been used at senior level, yet was still held back.

With either of those players on the pitch, we would have beaten Down that night, and young players who might never have won anything else at county level would have had their dream come true. Would he like to go on social media and comment on that?

The post last night is just another sign of his lack of self-awareness and yes ego.

Complete balls.

No harm, but he wasn't looking out for the best interests of the U20 team because he wasn't their manager! That's how it is at top level football, especially with outside managers. He made mistakes, like any manager. But it was his job to coach Derry Seniors and he did that emphatically. He was 100% the best manager Derry have had since Coleman. Delivered the county's first Ulster Title in 24 years. McKenna Cup and League Titles. All Ireland run got the whole county behind the team like we haven't seen in decades. The buzz was incredible. Players adored him. Divisive character yes, but his comments were valid and accurate. The style of play last night was outdated and dull. That comes from the system, which leaves the blame in one place only....

[Wildweasel74]

We scorex 12pts,in this day and age of attacking fball thats very poor. Zero lessons learned from the approach to the Donegal game. That 2 All-Ireland Minor teans passed by and a team who made a semi final, and we got no return out of them.

[HonDerry]

Did you miss this statement - "Irrespective of whether his analysis has merit or not"

I am saying that it is galling to listen to someone who takes time to go on social media criticising a Derry u20 setup not achieving when he prevented a previous setup from achieving their potential.

I have not commented on how good or otherwise Gallagher is as a manager, I am commenting on the neck of him to do this.

[Uncle Phil]

Did you miss this statement - "Irrespective of whether his analysis has merit or not"

I am saying that it is galling to listen to someone who takes time to go on social media criticising a Derry u20 setup not achieving when he prevented a previous setup from achieving their potential.

I have not commented on how good or otherwise Gallagher is as a manager, I am commenting on the neck of him to do this.

You should comment on his Instagram page then.

[HonDerry]

He has comments turned off.

[lenny]

Pure crap, a team playing with fear of Donegal, and that message had to have delivered by the manager in whatever what they communicated to the squad. No body taking anyone on except McGuckin, slow laborious play with no purpose. Higgins is a quality player. A coached team that took one of the best u20 forwards in Ulster out of game in any threatening way. Hopefully this is a wake up call about how not to play

Was at the game yesterday evening, the above were the comments I made on the Donegal game a few weeks ago. Make no mistake, this is the result of coaching. Literally no kicking of the ball when the space was available to kick it forward-however I could live with that if we had purpose in our attacking play, if we were structured & movement to create space to allow players to take the defender on, but no, we were so static. There simply was no evidence of coaching weaving movements that shift defenders that then allow for a space that then allows the forward to take his opposing player on. Gallaghers comments were crude, but unfortunately blunt in truth. Last years u20 team played exactly the same way.

The last 2 years u20s played like this and Tyrone went onto win AI's where I felt we had better players, coached to play in a way that stifled them.
It's frustrating when so many of us see the same thing but it's not being addressed.

On u20s progressing to senior - I think part of the reason this is now less likely is that there's too big a step in terms of physicality and intensity coming from u20, as opposed to u21. Strong u21 players were more likely to be equipped to step up, imo.

Disagree with this and we've seen it already with Donegal this year. They've regularly had 3 or 4 u20s playing on their senior team throughout the league without looking out of place, in fact they added to the team significantly and they won the league.