Best referee in Ireland?

Started by yellowcard, August 31, 2015, 12:41:02 PM

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AZOffaly

Quote from: mrhardyannual on September 02, 2015, 11:08:07 AM
One of the problems is that the pool is too small and the continued use of a "select" band of refs tends to exaccerbate the problem as players know how to play them. Its hard to believe that a football county like Galway does not have a top class ref since Ml Curley. Mayo have not had an All Ireland ref since PJ McGrath. Roscommon? Cork and Kerry are under-represented too though with Kerry in the semis almost annually it might be hard to progress.
The group of refs we have range from average to good. they are under constant analysis by assessors and are often second guessed by these guys who have all the time in the world to make decisions. this leads to refs reffing to protect their rating rather than going by their instincts.
Finally the media play a huge part in this. In nearly every game he refs Marty Duffy will blow while there is action out the field and award a 13m free for holding in the full forward line. this happens irregardless of whither the forward in question was even going to make a play for the ball. The media nearly wet themselseves at his vision and the resulting score often has a crucial bearing on a game. Have you ever seen a ref blow a free for off the ball holding of a defender?

Why would a forward hold a defender, off the ball?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 01:33:36 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on September 02, 2015, 11:08:07 AM
One of the problems is that the pool is too small and the continued use of a "select" band of refs tends to exaccerbate the problem as players know how to play them. Its hard to believe that a football county like Galway does not have a top class ref since Ml Curley. Mayo have not had an All Ireland ref since PJ McGrath. Roscommon? Cork and Kerry are under-represented too though with Kerry in the semis almost annually it might be hard to progress.
The group of refs we have range from average to good. they are under constant analysis by assessors and are often second guessed by these guys who have all the time in the world to make decisions. this leads to refs reffing to protect their rating rather than going by their instincts.
Finally the media play a huge part in this. In nearly every game he refs Marty Duffy will blow while there is action out the field and award a 13m free for holding in the full forward line. this happens irregardless of whither the forward in question was even going to make a play for the ball. The media nearly wet themselseves at his vision and the resulting score often has a crucial bearing on a game. Have you ever seen a ref blow a free for off the ball holding of a defender?

Why would a forward hold a defender, off the ball?

I know this is a daft post... if he or a club man or county play from his county was being held off the ball while trying to make a run for space to collect the ball he'd be having a fit!!! Posters coming on giving off about referees while not know the rules themselves, couldn't make it up!! Next
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Rudi

Cillian O Connor, did a good job last week. Kept himself on the field after that elbow swing (that was a red card) and got the best player in the country sent off after "Leroy" (ffs)  battered the head off him. He failed to send off Copper, McMahon and O Sullivan. Maybe this weekend. O Connor is worth watching this wend.

mrhardyannual

Many forwards keep a grip on defender until ball is being played. A sharp tug backwards on the jersey and a dash forward will usually give an advantage. This has nothing to do with knowledge of playing rule, ... just simple observation of whats happening on the field.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: mrhardyannual on September 03, 2015, 05:28:09 PM
Many forwards keep a grip on defender until ball is being played. A sharp tug backwards on the jersey and a dash forward will usually give an advantage. This has nothing to do with knowledge of playing rule, ... just simple observation of whats happening on the field.

And that's a foul too, and when referee sees it its called... Why anyone thinks holding a jersey be he forward or back isn't a foul is thick... But only, and only when the referee sees it, not the supporters in the crowd or ones watching the replays on tv... Referee gets one look
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muppet

Quote from: Rudi on September 03, 2015, 09:29:07 AM
Cillian O Connor, did a good job last week. Kept himself on the field after that elbow swing (that was a red card) and got the best player in the country sent off after "Leroy" (ffs)  battered the head off him. He failed to send off Copper, McMahon and O Sullivan. Maybe this weekend. O Connor is worth watching this wend.

Rudi, go back to Notre Dame.  :D
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Dinny Breen

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yellowcard

Kinsella reffed that game very well, didn't make it all about himself and used common sense.

Jinxy

Excellent display by Eddie.
Everyone was on their best behaviour though, it must be said.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

muppet

Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 05, 2015, 08:35:30 PM
Mr Kinsella was superb today.

Yea I thought he had a good game, especially considering the pressure around the fixture.
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the goal was on

Players yes were more disciplined but Eddie helps that as he seems to explain decisions and talk to players. No arrogance as opposed to others whose dictatorship style promotes revolt among players! David goldrick and Eddie best performers this year

theticklemister

was dreading today when kinsella got the gig, but he was excellent.

Thought joe mcquillan was good last week too but.

orangeman

A lot easier reffed when teams are going out to play. But Eddie did do well.

Main Street

Eddie Kinsella did vey good today but it was an infinitely easier game to ref than last weeks, therefore  I reckon McQuillan excelled last week, Coldrick and Geogh are also excellent refs.
Even Marty has his good moments.

Of course, if somebody is demanding perfection or demanding that the ref decides everything the way they think it should be decided or just magnifies the enormity of the injustice  everytime such and such a ref  has made a poor decision against their team,  then we have cráp refs who haven't got a clue and we have amongst us  the most perfect fans who know exactly what should be decided at any given time in a game, in a nanosecond.