journalists trying to influence/lobby rule makers and disciplinary procedures.

[deiseach]

I remember having some awful thoughts about Willie Barrett after the 1998 Munster final replay. I was certainly willing to entertain some awful conspiracy theories about him.

Then I grew up.

[Bingo]

What feckin manager wouldn't stick up for his player after he got ripped down by the hair?

Stop saying this - you're making the rest of your argument look stupid. He dived.

Why? Its how I see it.

People spout lies about Tyrone all the time and then its taken as gospel.

Thats how I seen the incident, so thats how I call it.

[omaghjoe]

What feckin manager wouldn't stick up for his player after he got ripped down by the hair?

Stop saying this - you're making the rest of your argument look stupid. He dived.

Why? Its how I see it.

People spout lies about Tyrone all the time and then its taken as gospel.

Thats how I seen the incident, so thats how I call it.

Arguing can be fun. But pick a somewhat credible line of argument.

To 'rip him down by the hair' he would have to:

a) have grabbed his hair,
b) pulled it so the head was dragged immediately down with Hughes hand (McCann's head actually falls away from Hughes' hand),
c) even if the above happened, my 2 year old can withstand having her hair tugged to such an extent that she can remain on her feet.

http://giant.gfycat.com/QualifiedConcreteLabradorretriever.mp4

How do you know how much force was applied? Hughes is a big strong lad, calving holsteins and wrestling drop calves on top of all the S&C trainig.

If you dont agree with that fine, your not gonna change my mind. I dont become fixated everytime anyone says it was a hair ruffle when it clearly wasnt.

And its irrelevant to my replies I was making to ur points

[muppet]

You said he got 'he got ripped down by the hair'.

Wouldn't he have had to at least grab a hold of his hair?

What about all that gel??

Shouldn't there at least be a bit of a tug visible? Even the slightest biteen??

Hughes probably needed a tub of swarfega when he got to the dressing room.

[deiseach]

You couldn't make it up.

Actually, you could.

[omaghjoe]

You said he got 'he got ripped down by the hair'.

Wouldn't he have had to at least grab a hold of his hair?

What about all that gel??

Shouldn't there at least be a bit of a tug visible? Even the slightest biteen??

Hughes probably needed a tub of swarfega when he got to the dressing room.

He did

[Syferus]

You said he got 'he got ripped down by the hair'.

Wouldn't he have had to at least grab a hold of his hair?

What about all that gel??

Shouldn't there at least be a bit of a tug visible? Even the slightest biteen??

Hughes probably needed a tub of swarfega when he got to the dressing room.

He did

Stop digging.

[Bingo]

[deiseach]

[stew]

Tyrone are reviled throughout the Country and beyond, their leader has let this shit go on since the start of his tenure and I loathe him for it!

Armagh have a sickening penchant for starting fights before the ball is thrown in, it is embarrassing and a lot of people loathe us for that, that sais, in 45 years watching GAA I have never seen a couny so despised as Tyrone, and rightly so! They are not the only ones at this nasty shit, but they are the poster children for simulation be it diving, prentending to be hurt or getting your hair touched and writing around in agony, they will reap what they so and although I have no love for Kerry I hope they absolutely destroy these cheating bastards! For the good of the game I hope Tyrone get destroyed because they are sucking the life out of gaelic football even though they can be great at it on occasion!

[Syferus]

Anyone remember the spoof documentary series on Channel 4 in the 90's called Brass Eye?

Much of what is on this thread and a few others is showing up why satire is slowly dying.

Watch Last Week Tonight and tell me satire is dying.

[omaghjoe]

Sorry i've had another look and I will have to rephrase it was an attempted pull down.

He tried to grab his hair, it slid thru his fingers and at the same time Tiernan pulled away sharply and his momentum took him down.

There is considerable force used by Hughes look at how hard it hand bounces of Tiernan's shoulder

Have a look at it lads without your preconceptions.... it deserved a red on its own along with us other transgressions he should be looking at a lengthy ban

[omaghjoe]

Tyrone are reviled throughout the Country and beyond, their leader has let this shit go on since the start of his tenure and I loathe him for it!

Armagh have a sickening penchant for starting fights before the ball is thrown in, it is embarrassing and a lot of people loathe us for that, that sais, in 45 years watching GAA I have never seen a couny so despised as Tyrone, and rightly so! They are not the only ones at this nasty shit, but they are the poster children for simulation be it diving, prentending to be hurt or getting your hair touched and writing around in agony, they will reap what they so and although I have no love for Kerry I hope they absolutely destroy these cheating b**tards! For the good of the game I hope Tyrone get destroyed because they are sucking the life out of gaelic football even though they can be great at it on occasion!

And then we're accused of being paronoid when you point out when people have agenda....

[muppet]

Sorry i've had another look and I will have to rephrase it was an attempted pull down.

He tried to grab his hair, it slid thru his fingers and at the same time Tiernan pulled away sharply and his momentum took him down.

There is considerable force used by Hughes look at how hard it hand bounces of Tiernan's shoulder

Have a look at it lads without your preconceptions.... it deserved a red on its own along with us other transgressions he should be looking at a lengthy ban

It was a caress.

A well lubricated caress, but a caress nonetheless.

They never got to the 'attempted pull down' stage, as McCann fainted before that.

[Puckoon]

Tyrone are reviled throughout the Country and beyond, their leader has let this shit go on since the start of his tenure and I loathe him for it!

Armagh have a sickening penchant for starting fights before the ball is thrown in, it is embarrassing and a lot of people loathe us for that, that sais, in 45 years watching GAA I have never seen a couny so despised as Tyrone, and rightly so! They are not the only ones at this nasty shit, but they are the poster children for simulation be it diving, prentending to be hurt or getting your hair touched and writing around in agony, they will reap what they so and although I have no love for Kerry I hope they absolutely destroy these cheating b**tards! For the good of the game I hope Tyrone get destroyed because they are sucking the life out of gaelic football even though they can be great at it on occasion!

Stew - your posts on this topic are in simulation territory. You need an 8 week ban for bringing yourself into disrepute.