Kerry V Tyrone Fodder AISF 23rd August 2015

[Aaron Boone]

Tyrone have lost their last 3 semi-finals.

[INDIANA]

I dont know what you watching Moran dominated him and only went off for fresh legs, it was telling Tyrone came back into it when he went off

He didn't dominate him at all. Moran is one of Kerry's best players and his impact on the game was negligible, Donnelly was very involved for Tyrone all day long and certainly seemed to have much more of an impact including getting on the scoresheet. You say Moran stopped Donnelly, why wouldn't it be the other way round. Moran had an extremely quiet day by his standards today.

But Kerry won

[JoG2]

I dont know what you watching Moran dominated him and only went off for fresh legs, it was telling Tyrone came back into it when he went off

He didn't dominate him at all. Moran is one of Kerry's best players and his impact on the game was negligible, Donnelly was very involved for Tyrone all day long and certainly seemed to have much more of an impact including getting on the scoresheet. You say Moran stopped Donnelly, why wouldn't it be the other way round. Moran had an extremely quiet day by his standards today.

As asked before,  what game were you watching?  Donnelly has been one of the stand out performers in the championship up until today but was quiet.  Moran handled him very well keeping him quiet and that takes some doing (and energy). 

Tyrone performed admirably with their 15 man swarm defence but don't have the quality in terms or strength and depth that Kerry do,  very few teams do. 

Morgan had a disaster but (and I wouldn't be his biggest fan by any stretch)  but Colm Cavanagh had a quare game

Very enjoyable game all in all. 

The hit on Cooper at the end was awful

[charlieTully]

I thought the Gooch was immense, intricate passes, holding the play up, reminded me of Xavi in a soccer comparison. cannot understand the criticism of him on here. donaghy adds nothing and even my 14 year old son was shouting at the telly for him to be subbed.

Brolly was spot on here though

http://gaeliclife.com/2015/08/joe-brolly-points-are-for-wimps/

[twohands!!!]

Great win. Kerry well below par and still won by 4. Will improve greatly for final.

Actually think today's game will bring them along. The Kildare game was a turkey shoot and did nothing for them. Think they will be sharper for the final. Bit silly to be writing them off just yet IMO.

Yeah, kerry will be delighted with that result. Into a final with no fanfare, some people writing them off and the Tyrone monkey off their back - a decent day's work

The Kildare game was a horrible game to come into a semi-final off.
This game by contrast is a perfect one to head into a final on -  a lot of reasonable but very few standout performances in poor conditions, against a side who are more defensive than the two sides in the other semi.

[gallsman]

This whole thing that the tackle on Gooch was definitely a red is a head scratcher for me,the angles i seen weren't conducive to forming a definite answer, hopefully the Sunday game will have a better angle.

It was late and absolutely filthy. Straight red without a shadow of a doubt.

[From the Bunker]

Good effort by Tyrone. But the better team won. Kerry were just better. Sure the Referee did not get all decision correct. That's the way! In fairness he got most things ok! Tyrone are just not good enough yet. That's just the way it is. A Black card here, a penalty there, I don't think it would have made much of a difference. There were decisions that went against Tyrone today, but not enough to say they were robbed. No more than Monaghan a couple of weeks ago could feel aggrieved. As for the quote about opening up and letting loose on Kerry. Jez, you can't be doing that, madness!

Tyrone have lost their last 3 semi-finals.

Next the media will be telling Tyrone they have a Croke Park hoodoo. We (Mayo) were told this for years, despite getting to semi finals and finals. It's a final hoodoo we have (and what a hoodoo it is).

[naka]

Tyrone have lost their last 3 semi-finals.

Thought turning of the game was the free just after the penalty
Tyrone score to draw and I fancied them to win
Had to laugh thus morning, my twelve year old arrived down to breakfast in a campa cormaic Jersey as nearest he had to a Tyrone Jersey
Mother told him he had better not be seen by me or he would be chased out of house so he changed and waited til I came in from mass to ask my permission to wear it

[twohands!!!]

I was surprised that Sheehan came on in a game like today as he has a yellow streak in him. Maher was the pick of Kerry's midfield.

It's one thing playing Sheehan in the half-forward line where he can get away with abject defending and a lack of hunger to fight for ball, but playing him in midfield is just asking for trouble. Have to wonder what the story is with Tommy Walsh given how decent he looked in his brief cameo in the Kildare game (where Sheehan was pretty much the only Kerry player to have a poor day)

[beer baron]

This whole thing that the tackle on Gooch was definitely a red is a head scratcher for me,the angles i seen weren't conducive to forming a definite answer, hopefully the Sunday game will have a better angle.

It was late and absolutely filthy. Straight red without a shadow of a doubt.

Could well be but i'll decide when i see for certain. I'm a huge Gooch fan so if it's anywhere close to a red i'd safely say i'll be saying it's a definite red.

[twohands!!!]

This whole thing that the tackle on Gooch was definitely a red is a head scratcher for me,the angles i seen weren't conducive to forming a definite answer, hopefully the Sunday game will have a better angle.

It was late and absolutely filthy. Straight red without a shadow of a doubt.

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/gif-ronan-mcnabb-colm-cooper/305970

Red all day long.

[Rois]

Moran was certainly not bossing midfield. He was swallowed up in possession a few times in the first half and won very little ball from kick outs as it wasn't that type of match.

I watch Moran closely because he's a colleague (different office) and paid particular attention today when I was four rows from the front on the 45 getting absolutely soaked . I fully agree with the point about being swallowed up in possession, and was disappointed to see him grab on to the ankle of the opponent who got the ball from him on not one but two of those occasions.  I actually think he was a wee bit frustrated today, though absolutely everything was going through him in the first half.  Definitely not his best day out.

But congrats to Kerry, they were not at their best and still won, though Tyrone helped them no end.  We need a free taker. 

[An Watcher]

Disappointing result as I think this game could have went either way.  Maybe kerrys experience just told in the end but Tyrone will be better for the experience.  Thought many of the big names cancelled each other out. The old free problems coming back to haunt Tyrone,  same as Donegal game. If you can't put over pressure 45s at this stage then forget about it. Great effort all the same and fair play mickey harte

[highorlow]

Re: Kerry V Tyrone Fodder AISF 23rd August 2015
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In the last 10 minutes, Kerry outscored Tyrone by 4 points I believe. It was all square with about 10 minutes to go.



Kerry were also 5 up in the 53th min and appeared home free. I don't want to spoil your argument.

When Tyrone were forced into a "chase game" they looked reasonably strong, maybe I was watching another game

[BennyHarp]

somebody here said Tyrone were the better team? seriously what are you watching? they match Kerry to the 52nd Minute then Kerry pulled away. A very debatable penalty brought them back into it when they were 5 behind and falling adrift. Its OK having runners like McCann, meyler etc but at the end of the day its Gaelic football, not running round a track all day. you still have to put the ball over the bar. Kerry half forwards and midfield could. on the day Tyrone`s did not. Moran totally eclipsed Donnelly on the midfield. Kerry were poor enough on the day but still had enough. Tyrone have come on alot this year but when 5 down they should have pushed up and attacked more

The bottom line is had Tyrone taken their chances, they would have won. That's not even taking into account the refereeing decisions that went against them.

Moran was taken off, Donnelly had far more of an influence for Tyrone than Moran had for Kerry.

Not true! When Tyrone took one Kerry pulled away! They were clearly the better team why can't the Tyronie's see that?

On Morgan it was clear he was told only as a very last resort  he should hoof it down the middle. Not everyone is Stephen Cluxton and even Cluxton looked ordinary when Donegal  sussed out his kicking strategy last year. It's not f**king easy to execute a short kickout strategy when the opposing team push up. I'd be more worried about Kerry's GK who continually kicked ball away when he had men free up to the half way line!!

I agree that Kerry were probably the better team but you have to acknowledge that Tyrone created the more goalscoring chances and goals change matches, in fact Kerry's much vaunted forward line didn't create a goalscoring chance of note. Had Bradley's gone in or McAliskey looked up, then the game would have been very different. Tyrone defending a 5 point lead, picking Kerry off, is a very different game.

Tyrone, in the main got their match ups right today but their own kick out and free kicks at crucial times especially after the penalty done for us today.

The only time I really felt we struggled was a 15 or so min period between 40 and 55ish minutes when they went 4 up. The introduction of Geaney was key here and caused us problems. The lead meant they could throw the ball around in front of the "blanket" (to the ole's of some of their crowd  ) At this point they could have run away with it but Tyrone clawed their way back into the game, a much inferior team wouldn't have been able to do that. We went level but missed a few crucial frees when we had the game going our way. Unfortunately we couldn't take the chances and Kerry could.

I feel that this is a Tyrone team that has come a long way in a short period of time. Kerry are a team who are a bit more comfortable in their own skin, who have been around for a bit longer had the experience to take the crucial scores where necessary. Tyrone play a style were they concede a lot of ball and invite the opposition on to them, this can look like they are being dominated, but look at the goal chances created and the position of the game on 62mins and I can't really say that Kerry were clearly the better team.

Well done Kerry, a good game of football and best of luck in the final.

I am very positive about next year. I'm glad Mickey is staying on though I think we need a few up grades in certain positions. Mickey O'Neill should be pushing Morgan next year. Cassidy, McGeary and Hampsey should be looking at McRory and possibly McNabbs place. Big Paudie has shown well in the past two games, I feel he could prove very effective as a target from wing half forward. Lee Brennan will be chomping at the bit for either McAliskey or McCurrys place. All in all, things look a lot more positive that they did 12 months ago.