Kerry V Tyrone Fodder AISF 23rd August 2015

[nrico2006]

I don't see McCann as potentially being affected by all this negatively.  Its not as if as particular skill or aspect of his game which he uses during play has been scrutinised and resulted in his possibly changing his style of play, he will be able to go out and play his game as normal and its a very effective on at that.

[omaghjoe]

Most of the hype so far for the kerry team comes down to their big win over Kildare. I'm just not convinced that we should take that much from that game. Sundays game will be a huge step up in terms of intensity and the quality of the opposition. Kerry were able to dominate midfield,  tyrone will flood that sector with players and fight for every ball. I see the game playing out very much like last year's aif, abiet with a little more scoring threat from both sides. For me kerry''s forwards offer that little bit more particularly when it comes to scoring goals which tend to win these type of games. Saying that I'm not convinced with their back line and I feel Tyrone 's nippy forwards could potentially exploit their lack of pace. Really looking forward to it.

I see a lot of this "Tyrone will flood the midfield" talk. Surely Tyrone will do anything but that.

Their defensive structure all year has been pulling as many men inside their 45 as possible.

They are almost certain to concede Kerry's kick outs entirely and retreat behind half way. For their own kick outs as usual they will try and get someone loose in their own half. There's no way they will flood midfield.

Hard to know. They pushed up to good effect in the Sligo game but the kick outs weren't great.

The Sligo game is an irrelevance, they dont compare to Kerry in the kickout dpt or midfield dpt or pretty much anywhere else in the slightest

It will be interesting to see what they do. Most likely experiment with both and see which works best.

But I could see the most likely being Tyrone dropping back, conceding possession to short kickouts  with the intention of winning turnovers and hitting Kerry on the break...

It would force Kerry's backs into a possession game and could make Gooch on the 40 very significant....

[Stall the Bailer]

Kerry might try the Monaghan tactic from the Ulster final off moving the ball from side to side and back again to create an opening. They failed to do this against Tyrone as they tried to carry it instead. The gooch would be the best man for Kerry to implement this, and this is why I think he will play out around the middle. A man marker job out there will be needed, which could change our shape inside.

[Keane]

I agree, we won't kick anything into midfield ourselves and retreat leaving your defenders free encouraging you to take the sort kick out. If I was Kerry, I'd worry about the runs of Donnelly from midfield, I wonder who will pick him up.

Yeah I find it hard to predict the match ups.

Kerry might just let Maher on Donnelly and hope to have cover when he goes on his runs. He is a baller.

Enright on McCurry, Young on Harte, on Cavanagh. Hard to guess really.

Hard to know. They pushed up to good effect in the Sligo game but the kick outs weren't great.

Sligo have literally the worst midfield I've ever seen in Croke Park, so while you're right that Tyrone pushed up on them it was because they had the edge there that day.

I wouldn't see them trying to implement the same tactic to react to the opposite situation.

[Hereiam]

Giving Sunday to be a wet day. Tyrone like that sort of weather. 

[omaghjoe]

I agree, we won't kick anything into midfield ourselves and retreat leaving your defenders free encouraging you to take the sort kick out. If I was Kerry, I'd worry about the runs of Donnelly from midfield, I wonder who will pick him up.

Yeah I find it hard to predict the match ups.

Kerry might just let Maher on Donnelly and hope to have cover when he goes on his runs. He is a baller.

Enright on McCurry, Young on Harte, on Cavanagh. Hard to guess really.

Hard to know. They pushed up to good effect in the Sligo game but the kick outs weren't great.

Sligo have literally the worst midfield I've ever seen in Croke Park, so while you're right that Tyrone pushed up on them it was because they had the edge there that day.

I wouldn't see them trying to implement the same tactic to react to the opposite situation.

Could be wrong but is Enright not more suited to the physical player as opposed to the nippy corner forward?

I could see him picking up Sean C and Tomas picking up McCurry? or is Tomas more likely to be marshaling than concentrating on man marking?

And would Enright follow Sean out the field?

[omaghjoe]

Kerry might try the Monaghan tactic from the Ulster final off moving the ball from side to side and back again to create an opening. They failed to do this against Tyrone as they tried to carry it instead. The gooch would be the best man for Kerry to implement this, and this is why I think he will play out around the middle. A man marker job out there will be needed, which could change our shape inside.

Ha precisely! Look what happened when McGee done a manmarking job on JOD in last years final..... no big man left on the square resulting Kerry's first goal

[Keane]

Could be wrong but is Enright not more suited to the physical player as opposed to the nippy corner forward?

I could see him picking up Sean C and Tomas picking up McCurry? or is Tomas more likely to be marshaling than concentrating on man marking?

And would Enright follow Sean out the field?

Nah Enright would probably our fastest back, definitely the fastest in the FB line. When Marc was struggling on Colm O'Neill in the drawn game Enright went over and quietened him.

Do you mean Marc when you say Tomas or...? Would think McCurry would be very nippy compared to Marc. He took him to the cleaners in 12 alright but McCurry is presumably much better now while Marc is probably slower.

Mahony on Cavanagh I suppose is how they will go as Mahony would probably be the best guy to go out the field with him. The problem with that would be that Mahony has been the sweeper of choice in the last two games and been pretty smooth looking at it.

[supersarsfields]

I agree, we won't kick anything into midfield ourselves and retreat leaving your defenders free encouraging you to take the sort kick out. If I was Kerry, I'd worry about the runs of Donnelly from midfield, I wonder who will pick him up.

Yeah I find it hard to predict the match ups.

Kerry might just let Maher on Donnelly and hope to have cover when he goes on his runs. He is a baller.

Enright on McCurry, Young on Harte, on Cavanagh. Hard to guess really.

Hard to know. They pushed up to good effect in the Sligo game but the kick outs weren't great.

Sligo have literally the worst midfield I've ever seen in Croke Park, so while you're right that Tyrone pushed up on them it was because they had the edge there that day.

I wouldn't see them trying to implement the same tactic to react to the opposite situation.

Sligo were poor, but it was an obvious change of tactic to push up. I wouldn't be surprised to see it again in patches on Sunday.

[omaghjoe]

Could be wrong but is Enright not more suited to the physical player as opposed to the nippy corner forward?

I could see him picking up Sean C and Tomas picking up McCurry? or is Tomas more likely to be marshaling than concentrating on man marking?

And would Enright follow Sean out the field?

Nah Enright would probably our fastest back, definitely the fastest in the FB line. When Marc was struggling on Colm O'Neill in the drawn game Enright went over and quietened him.

Do you mean Marc when you say Tomas or...? Would think McCurry would be very nippy compared to Marc. He took him to the cleaners in 12 alright but McCurry is presumably much better now while Marc is probably slower.

Mahony on Cavanagh I suppose is how they will go as Mahony would probably be the best guy to go out the field with him. The problem with that would be that Mahony has been the sweeper of choice in the last two games and been pretty smooth looking at it.

Sorry Marc (duh) But thats my point about Enright he's good at the big physical forwards like the Cork men and I'm not really talking about straight line speed so much as agility and nippiness

Your right O'Mahoney of course would be the man for Sean C, but then would he have the legs for following him out the field? Would they likely to switch his man when he goes for a dander? Fitzmaurice would hardly do that as there would be a risk of him being unmarked.

On a side note O'Mahoney is a machine, he's a naturally inclined bigger man and to be still kicking county ball at at 35 is some goin.

[muppet]

Giving Sunday to be a wet day. Tyrone like that sort of weather. 

Yea, no need to spend money on Gel.

[Whishtup]

I agree, we won't kick anything into midfield ourselves and retreat leaving your defenders free encouraging you to take the sort kick out. If I was Kerry, I'd worry about the runs of Donnelly from midfield, I wonder who will pick him up.

Yeah I find it hard to predict the match ups.

Kerry might just let Maher on Donnelly and hope to have cover when he goes on his runs. He is a baller.

Enright on McCurry, Young on Harte, on Cavanagh. Hard to guess really.

Hard to know. They pushed up to good effect in the Sligo game but the kick outs weren't great.

Sligo have literally the worst midfield I've ever seen in Croke Park, so while you're right that Tyrone pushed up on them it was because they had the edge there that day.

I wouldn't see them trying to implement the same tactic to react to the opposite situation.

Could be wrong but is Enright not more suited to the physical player as opposed to the nippy corner forward?

I could see him picking up Sean C and Tomas picking up McCurry? or is Tomas more likely to be marshaling than concentrating on man marking?

And would Enright follow Sean out the field?

A birdy told me that's what will happen.

[Gaffer]

Giving Sunday to be a wet day. Tyrone like that sort of weather. 

  Quarter final v Dublin 2008 springs to mind!!!

That'll do OK!!!

[Teo Lurley]

Tyrone will win this by 4 points, I had a vision about it.

[omaghjoe]

Giving Sunday to be a wet day. Tyrone like that sort of weather. 

  Quarter final v Dublin 2008 springs to mind!!!

That'll do OK!!!

False alarm.....it was Daithi o'Se doing the weather trying to lull us into a false sense of security.... seriously ye couldn't watch them!