Kerry V Tyrone Fodder AISF 23rd August 2015

[reddgnhand]

What age are you stew? Must be good playing under 12 football.......

They are a gaggle that are strangling the game of football, they blacken the name of the GAA with the thuggery and knavery they get up to, in short, f**k them!

Somebody's having a bad day. Grow up.

[Estimator]

With Kerry v Derry in the minors, if its Kerry v Tyrone in the seniors, could that mean we'll see the Derry supporters cheering for Tyrone and Tyrone supporters cheering for Derry?

This happened in '95. Derry minors and Tyrone seniors played their respective Galway counterparts. A sizeable section of the Tyrone 'support' were certainly supporting the Tribesmen in the minor game. Hopefully the Tyrone support have matured since then. In fairness at that stage Tyrone had yet to win the All-Ireland, so their bitterness towards Derry was probably understandable.

[INDIANA]

If Tyrone concentrate on football they have a good chance . Kerry aren't as good as people have them at present . But they won't concentrate on football they'll bring it down to the base levels and they'll lose . Kerry will get the frees necessary to win the game by 5/6 points

Pity.

[yellowcard]

With Kerry v Derry in the minors, if its Kerry v Tyrone in the seniors, could that mean we'll see the Derry supporters cheering for Tyrone and Tyrone supporters cheering for Derry?

This happened in '95. Derry minors and Tyrone seniors played their respective Galway counterparts. A sizeable section of the Tyrone 'support' were certainly supporting the Tribesmen in the minor game. Hopefully the Tyrone support have matured since then. In fairness at that stage Tyrone had yet to win the All-Ireland, so their bitterness towards Derry was probably understandable.

I'd say you could take it as a given that this will be the case and I don't see any problem with it. It's called football tribalism.

[GJL]

If Tyrone concentrate on football they have a good chance . Kerry aren't as good as people have them at present . But they won't concentrate on football they'll bring it down to the base levels and they'll lose . Kerry will get the frees necessary to win the game by 5/6 points

Pity.

Tyrone have their faults but conceding a lot of scorable frees is not one of them. If Tyrone are to beat Kerry they will have to address a different fault. They will have to find the net.

[INDIANA]

If Tyrone concentrate on football they have a good chance . Kerry aren't as good as people have them at present . But they won't concentrate on football they'll bring it down to the base levels and they'll lose . Kerry will get the frees necessary to win the game by 5/6 points

Pity.

Tyrone have their faults but conceding a lot of scorable frees is not one of them. If Tyrone are to beat Kerry they will have to address a different fault. They will have to find the net.

They haven't faced an attack like Kerry's all season which will move them around . When they do and they start getting frustrated they'll resort to type and concede frees. They also haven't faced a midfield like Kerry which is the best midfield in the game

[tyroneman]

What age are you stew? Must be good playing under 12 football.......

They are a gaggle that are strangling the game of football, they blacken the name of the GAA with the thuggery and knavery they get up to, in short, f**k them!

Remind me which county couldn't even let a challenge match with Dublin get thrown in before starting with the thuggery?

[An Watcher]

In mickey we trust

[GJL]

If Tyrone concentrate on football they have a good chance . Kerry aren't as good as people have them at present . But they won't concentrate on football they'll bring it down to the base levels and they'll lose . Kerry will get the frees necessary to win the game by 5/6 points

Pity.

Tyrone have their faults but conceding a lot of scorable frees is not one of them. If Tyrone are to beat Kerry they will have to address a different fault. They will have to find the net.

They haven't faced an attack like Kerry's all season which will move them around . When they do and they start getting frustrated they'll resort to type and concede frees. They also haven't faced a midfield like Kerry which is the best midfield in the game

I guess time will tell. I know one thing though. Kerry would rather Monaghan won yesterday.

[INDIANA]

If Tyrone concentrate on football they have a good chance . Kerry aren't as good as people have them at present . But they won't concentrate on football they'll bring it down to the base levels and they'll lose . Kerry will get the frees necessary to win the game by 5/6 points

Pity.

Tyrone have their faults but conceding a lot of scorable frees is not one of them. If Tyrone are to beat Kerry they will have to address a different fault. They will have to find the net.

They haven't faced an attack like Kerry's all season which will move them around . When they do and they start getting frustrated they'll resort to type and concede frees. They also haven't faced a midfield like Kerry which is the best midfield in the game

I guess time will tell. I know one thing though. Kerry would rather Monaghan won yesterday.

Absolutely agree with that

[BennyHarp]

If Tyrone concentrate on football they have a good chance . Kerry aren't as good as people have them at present . But they won't concentrate on football they'll bring it down to the base levels and they'll lose . Kerry will get the frees necessary to win the game by 5/6 points

Pity.

Tyrone have their faults but conceding a lot of scorable frees is not one of them. If Tyrone are to beat Kerry they will have to address a different fault. They will have to find the net.

They haven't faced an attack like Kerry's all season which will move them around . When they do and they start getting frustrated they'll resort to type and concede frees. They also haven't faced a midfield like Kerry which is the best midfield in the game

Make no mistake, this is a good Kerry team but Tyrone will hold no fear of them. Their half forward is poor enough with Donnacha Walsh and O'Brien being players who are distinctly average and won't operate under the pressure applied by Tyrone. Sheehan shit the bed in 2008, he is a great ball player when given space but needs the space to operate, again, the space won't be there. Mickey came up with a plan for Gooch and Donaghy 7 years ago, they haven't got any better since then. That leaves James O'Donoghue, he worries me - let's hope he doesn't recover from injury in time!

As for the defence - an aging full back line needs to be tested. Cavanagh at 14 caused havoc yesterday, I expect more of the same. The big concern however is midfield. Kerry are very strong in that sector, I'm not sure how to counteract that. It may be the winning of the game for them.

[omagh_gael]

Think you'll see very little ball going down the middle from Morgan. There'll be a lot of short kicks and splitting/pulling their midfield out to the flanks.

Morgan's kicking yesterday was top drawer, we'll need a similar performance in a fortnight.

[reddgnhand]

With Kerry v Derry in the minors, if its Kerry v Tyrone in the seniors, could that mean we'll see the Derry supporters cheering for Tyrone and Tyrone supporters cheering for Derry?

This happened in '95. Derry minors and Tyrone seniors played their respective Galway counterparts. A sizeable section of the Tyrone 'support' were certainly supporting the Tribesmen in the minor game. Hopefully the Tyrone support have matured since then. In fairness at that stage Tyrone had yet to win the All-Ireland, so their bitterness towards Derry was probably understandable.

Absolute rubbish Tyrone got behind the Derry minors that year. The Derry manager thanked the support that they got.

[INDIANA]

If Tyrone concentrate on football they have a good chance . Kerry aren't as good as people have them at present . But they won't concentrate on football they'll bring it down to the base levels and they'll lose . Kerry will get the frees necessary to win the game by 5/6 points

Pity.

Tyrone have their faults but conceding a lot of scorable frees is not one of them. If Tyrone are to beat Kerry they will have to address a different fault. They will have to find the net.

They haven't faced an attack like Kerry's all season which will move them around . When they do and they start getting frustrated they'll resort to type and concede frees. They also haven't faced a midfield like Kerry which is the best midfield in the game

Make no mistake, this is a good Kerry team but Tyrone will hold no fear of them. Their half forward is poor enough with Donnacha Walsh and O'Brien being players who are distinctly average and won't operate under the pressure applied by Tyrone. Sheehan shit the bed in 2008, he is a great ball player when given space but needs the space to operate, again, the space won't be there. Mickey came up with a plan for Gooch and Donaghy 7 years ago, they haven't got any better since then. That leaves James O'Donoghue, he worries me - let's hope he doesn't recover from injury in time!

As for the defence - an aging full back line needs to be tested. Cavanagh at 14 caused havoc yesterday, I expect more of the same. The big concern however is midfield. Kerry are very strong in that sector, I'm not sure how to counteract that. It may be the winning of the game for them.

Midfield Benny will win Kerry the AI. I agree with your analysis and I actually have a lot of time and respect for Tyrone football. But they let themselves down so often they've become a hate figure.

I think people need to relax on Mc Cann. He's young and he did an incredibly stupid thing yesterday but he didn't shoot anybody. Did a lot of silly things when was I young too -thankfully social media didn't exist.

Unfortunately when you see Sean Cavanagh at 32 diving it's hard not to feel it'd all part of Tyrone's game-plan and because of that young Mc Cann will be lacerated on social media. But Sean should know better. Difficulty is when Sean is Tyrone manager in the future he'll train them to dive too.

[CD]

Think you'll see very little ball going down the middle from Morgan. There'll be a lot of short kicks and splitting/pulling their midfield out to the flanks.

Morgan's kicking yesterday was top drawer, we'll need a similar performance in a fortnight.

Agree with that. Kerry would absolutely clean Tyrone out in midfield but Tyrone are well versed in playing around that problem. I've a feeling both Donaghy and Gooch will start in the full forward line with possibly Walsh coming in in the second half in the half forward line for added physicality and to exploit the advantage that Kerry have. This might leave them a bit short of speed in the midfield area with Sheehan in there as well and O'Mahoney in the half back line. That's definitely an area Tyrone can exploit. The speed of Donnelly, Harte and McCann was phenomenal yesterday and instrumental in their win. McCann made so many lung bursting runs of 40 and 50 metres and the Monahghan half back line were exposed time and again.