Kerry V Tyrone Fodder AISF 23rd August 2015

[Canalman]

Being brutally honest but I don't think the Tyrone forwards are a patch on the noughties ones. Chalk and Cheese.

Kerry to win handily imo.

[Il Bomber Destro]

Being brutally honest but I don't think the Tyrone forwards are a patch on the noughties ones. Chalk and Cheese.

Kerry to win handily imo.

Our starting forward line for Sunday is better than the 08 starting forward line, IMO. There are a lot of people going to be dining out on humble pie come Sunday evening and I intend to take a good few quid off the bookies on account of them.

[BennyHarp]

It's interesting how supporters can seamlessly go from lambasting their team and management after a few losses to declaring them potential champions after a few wins. Not saying that's exactly what's happened here with Tyrone supporters but there's no doubt some have swung fairly dramatically from doom and gloom to notable optimism - such is the life of a supporter I guess.

For me, I can't see anything other than a Kerry win. I think Tyrone have some great players and some potentially great players but Kerry have more proven performers and are further down the line in their progression as a team. Harte is mimicking a system that you employ when you know your squad can't go man for man but that system is a busted flush against the best teams. With the possible exception of Monaghan, Tyrone have beaten nobody that they wouldn't beat going man for man. This weekend they'll meet a team they wouldn't beat going man of man so the 'system' will probably make it closer on the scoreboard but I expect the difference in quality will still be notable.

I reckon Tyrone are still a team in the chasing pack albeit probably the leading team in that pack. They are still short of the Kerry's of this world though and will probably lose by 3 to 5 points I think.

I think you are being a bit unfair in your first paragraph there Zulu. This isn't a Tyrone team that have fallen from nowhere into an All Ireland semi final. There's very few lads on that panel without an AI medal at some level or another and it's our 2nd AI semi final in 3 years. Yes, there's some balloons with an anti Mickey Harte agenda but most Tyrone fans have always known the talent that lies within these players having seen them at minor, U21 and club level. Perhaps at times we were frustrated that this wasn't always reflected by performances until the last few outings. I've been a fairly consistent supporter of Mickey on here, though I must admit I was worried that our progress was a bit too slow. People in Tyrone have always felt that there was potential there, it's just now it's beginning to present itself and as Rois said earlier this may a year or two too early but we are certainly moving in the right direction.

[BennyHarp]

Being brutally honest but I don't think the Tyrone forwards are a patch on the noughties ones. Chalk and Cheese.

Kerry to win handily imo.

It's a good job we aren't playing against the noughties team then. That was an outstanding team, lesser teams than those boys have won all Ireland's before and since.

[blanketattack]

Nerves starting to build now.
If you offered me a draw and a replay in Limerick I'd snap your hand off!

[From the Bunker]

Nerves starting to build now.
If you offered me a draw and a replay in Limerick I'd snap your hand off!

How about if you were leading by 5 with minutes remaining. And there was the option of a dodgy Ref waiting for you in Limerick?

[omaghjoe]

Nerves starting to build now.
If you offered me a draw and a replay in Limerick I'd snap your hand off!

How about if you were leading by 5 with minutes remaining. And there was the option of a dodgy Ref waiting for you in Limerick?

Remember tho, a dodgy ref for Kerry is one who is a used car salesman

[Zulu]

It's interesting how supporters can seamlessly go from lambasting their team and management after a few losses to declaring them potential champions after a few wins. Not saying that's exactly what's happened here with Tyrone supporters but there's no doubt some have swung fairly dramatically from doom and gloom to notable optimism - such is the life of a supporter I guess.

For me, I can't see anything other than a Kerry win. I think Tyrone have some great players and some potentially great players but Kerry have more proven performers and are further down the line in their progression as a team. Harte is mimicking a system that you employ when you know your squad can't go man for man but that system is a busted flush against the best teams. With the possible exception of Monaghan, Tyrone have beaten nobody that they wouldn't beat going man for man. This weekend they'll meet a team they wouldn't beat going man of man so the 'system' will probably make it closer on the scoreboard but I expect the difference in quality will still be notable.

I reckon Tyrone are still a team in the chasing pack albeit probably the leading team in that pack. They are still short of the Kerry's of this world though and will probably lose by 3 to 5 points I think.

I think you are being a bit unfair in your first paragraph there Zulu. This isn't a Tyrone team that have fallen from nowhere into an All Ireland semi final. There's very few lads on that panel without an AI medal at some level or another and it's our 2nd AI semi final in 3 years. Yes, there's some balloons with an anti Mickey Harte agenda but most Tyrone fans have always known the talent that lies within these players having seen them at minor, U21 and club level. Perhaps at times we were frustrated that this wasn't always reflected by performances until the last few outings. I've been a fairly consistent supporter of Mickey on here, though I must admit I was worried that our progress was a bit too slow. People in Tyrone have always felt that there was potential there, it's just now it's beginning to present itself and as Rois said earlier this may a year or two too early but we are certainly moving in the right direction.

Ah I know what you're saying Benny and it wasn't really a comment on Tyrone fans or posters rather a general comment on posts I've seen here over the years where a bad league or early exit from a provincial championship has some dismissing their team but a few qualifier wins later and they start talking about not writing off their teams chances of going all the way. Like I said, it's probably just the nature of being a supporter, you tend to read more into both defeats and victories that might be justified.

I agree though there is certainly talent in this Tyrone team and they will close the gap on the teams above them. I suspect they haven't yet though. But you're there and are have the ability to give it a good rattle so I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Best of luck to both teams and all supporters. It's a great weekend to be involved in.

[ONeill]

On RTE2 now - a bit of '03 romanticism.

[ONeill]

FFS RTE lagging. They're up til their oul tricks again.

[rrhf]

Painting  hurleys is a mighty idea

[Aaron Boone]

Any word of possible attendance? Next weekend already sold out by the Mayo fans.

[An Watcher]

I think I sense some anxiety among the Kerry fans. Imagine if they lost to Tyrone and mickey harte again at Croker. Not sure if it'll happen myself but if it's all square ten minutes into the second half I think we're in with a great shout

[Gael85]

Being brutally honest but I don't think the Tyrone forwards are a patch on the noughties ones. Chalk and Cheese.

Kerry to win handily imo.

+1

Tyrone didnt have the firepower to beat Mayo in 2013 semi final and that forward line hasn't improved much since . They don't seem to have many forwards that will raise green flags. Tyrone will make  game for 40-50 minutes then Kerry will pull away and win by 10+ . Tyrone forwards in championship have struggled against Donegal last 3 championship games, Mayo 2013 and Kerry 2012. Could see in all games never looked like winning.Tieran McCann and Mark Bradley are players for the future and hopefully they will get a couple others from 21 winning team. They had a couple powerful lads in the full forward line who might make impact next year

[Aaron Boone]

Being brutally honest but I don't think the Tyrone forwards are a patch on the noughties ones. Chalk and Cheese.

Kerry to win handily imo.

+1

Tyrone didnt have the firepower to beat Mayo in 2013 semi final and that forward line hasn't improved much since . They don't seem to have many forwards that will raise green flags. Tyrone will make  game for 40-50 minutes then Kerry will pull away and win by 10+ . Tyrone forwards in championship have struggled against Donegal last 3 championship games, Mayo 2013 and Kerry 2012. Could see in all games never looked like winning.Tieran McCann and Mark Bradley are players for the future and hopefully they will get a couple others from 21 winning team. They had a couple powerful lads in the full forward line who might make impact next year

Very well written. My optimism has reduced. I do think the u-21 AI for Tyr this year has given massive bounce in the county. Those players have no fear.