Tyrone V Monaghan AIQF 2015

Started by never kickt a ball, August 01, 2015, 08:20:10 PM

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BluestackBoy

Quote from: cadhlancian on August 09, 2015, 11:59:58 PM

(if he plays, I see Colm O'Rourke has asked for him to be banned, which will likely happen now
What the f**k right does Colm ORourke have to call for a suspension for anyone?.
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He has as much right as anyone else to speak his mind & maybe more so since that is what he is being paid to do.

Count yourself damn lucky Brolly wasn't there.
For what shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world & loses his soul.

Rodman

Quote from: phpearse on August 09, 2015, 11:47:59 PM
Some of the Tyrone lads could take a leaf out of Michael Murphy's book. Took a box to the mouth and stood his ground. There's a lot to be said about manning up in these situations and quit the messing. McCann should be seriously embarrassed with what happened yesterday. Why would a player do that? How would you even think of diving when someone touches your hair. You first reaction would be to push them away not falling to the ground. That was ridiculous and it will likely reck his head now and he won't be the same player in the next game (if he plays, I see Colm O'Rourke has asked for him to be banned, which will likely happen now). Would you not think that Sean Cavanagh would be embarrassed at this stage as well? FFS man stand up and stop acting the maggot. Sublime at times and ridiculous at other times.

I don't care how the Monaghan players behaved themselves in the last 1/4 of that game. The joy of winning at match is Croke Park soon looses it's shine when you see shite like that on TV afterwards. It doesn't have to happen, what it shows is a lack of self belief that the football ability isn't there to kill a game off that they were leading comfortably. They thought they needed to mess and feck about in the last 15 to see out the game when they could have held their head and finished the game strongly. Young team but sometimes the tone is set but the elders on the team and Cavanagh can set a bad example at times.

Well the CCCC never banned Michael Shields or Aidan O'Mahony so why would they ban McCann. Just because he is from Tyrone maybe?

ONeill

Quote from: phpearse on August 09, 2015, 11:47:59 PM
Some of the Tyrone lads could take a leaf out of Michael Murphy's book. Took a box to the mouth and stood his ground. There's a lot to be said about manning up in these situations and quit the messing. McCann should be seriously embarrassed with what happened yesterday. Why would a player do that? How would you even think of diving when someone touches your hair. You first reaction would be to push them away not falling to the ground. That was ridiculous and it will likely reck his head now and he won't be the same player in the next game (if he plays, I see Colm O'Rourke has asked for him to be banned, which will likely happen now). Would you not think that Sean Cavanagh would be embarrassed at this stage as well? FFS man stand up and stop acting the maggot. Sublime at times and ridiculous at other times.

I don't care how the Monaghan players behaved themselves in the last 1/4 of that game. The joy of winning at match is Croke Park soon looses it's shine when you see shite like that on TV afterwards. It doesn't have to happen, what it shows is a lack of self belief that the football ability isn't there to kill a game off that they were leading comfortably. They thought they needed to mess and feck about in the last 15 to see out the game when they could have held their head and finished the game strongly. Young team but sometimes the tone is set but the elders on the team and Cavanagh can set a bad example at times.

I agree with a lot of this.

I don't give a damn what other sides do. If 31 counties dived and feigned that's on their conscience. I didn't like what I saw in the last 15 mins in a Tyrone jersey. I was elated at making the semis and beating the Ulster champs but it was a niggly feeling. During the game it dawned on me that man for man we were actually a better side. Tyrone could have killed them off by playing football 15v15.

There are fine players on that Tyrone team who play football. Harte, Donnelly, McCurry, McMahon..... but there are others who are capable of acts of unmanliness at any given moment.

In terms of dragging down and defending at all costs I've no problem with. Kilkenny were as cynical as fcuk today when Waterford looked like sniffing a goal. It's trying to get others sent off or sanctioned I cannot abide.

I don't care if Monaghan did it too and The Sunday Game didn't highlight it. I don't care about the public's perception of Tyrone. I care about what I see in a Tyrone jersey.

I hope against Kerry we frustrate the feck outta them, foul them where it doesn't hurt, get in their heads and throw verbals, but no diving to get others punished.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Hardy


straightred

Quote from: ONeill on August 10, 2015, 12:09:31 AM
Quote from: phpearse on August 09, 2015, 11:47:59 PM
Some of the Tyrone lads could take a leaf out of Michael Murphy's book. Took a box to the mouth and stood his ground. There's a lot to be said about manning up in these situations and quit the messing. McCann should be seriously embarrassed with what happened yesterday. Why would a player do that? How would you even think of diving when someone touches your hair. You first reaction would be to push them away not falling to the ground. That was ridiculous and it will likely reck his head now and he won't be the same player in the next game (if he plays, I see Colm O'Rourke has asked for him to be banned, which will likely happen now). Would you not think that Sean Cavanagh would be embarrassed at this stage as well? FFS man stand up and stop acting the maggot. Sublime at times and ridiculous at other times.

I don't care how the Monaghan players behaved themselves in the last 1/4 of that game. The joy of winning at match is Croke Park soon looses it's shine when you see shite like that on TV afterwards. It doesn't have to happen, what it shows is a lack of self belief that the football ability isn't there to kill a game off that they were leading comfortably. They thought they needed to mess and feck about in the last 15 to see out the game when they could have held their head and finished the game strongly. Young team but sometimes the tone is set but the elders on the team and Cavanagh can set a bad example at times.

I agree with a lot of this.

I don't give a damn what other sides do. If 31 counties dived and feigned that's on their conscience. I didn't like what I saw in the last 15 mins in a Tyrone jersey. I was elated at making the semis and beating the Ulster champs but it was a niggly feeling. During the game it dawned on me that man for man we were actually a better side. Tyrone could have killed them off by playing football 15v15.

There are fine players on that Tyrone team who play football. Harte, Donnelly, McCurry, McMahon..... but there are others who are capable of acts of unmanliness at any given moment.

In terms of dragging down and defending at all costs I've no problem with. Kilkenny were as cynical as fcuk today when Waterford looked like sniffing a goal. It's trying to get others sent off or sanctioned I cannot abide.

I don't care if Monaghan did it too and The Sunday Game didn't highlight it. I don't care about the public's perception of Tyrone. I care about what I see in a Tyrone jersey.

I hope against Kerry we frustrate the feck outta them, foul them where it doesn't hurt, get in their heads and throw verbals, but no diving to get others punished.

Interesting that you don't namecheck Cavanagh. He should be a legend of the game but there is too much baggage

ONeill

He is a legend of the game and on a par with Canavan.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

straightred

Quote from: ONeill on August 10, 2015, 01:00:17 AM
He is a legend of the game and on a par with Canavan.

In your eyes maybe but not mine. Horse of a man inside his own half but once he crosses midfield the cheating kicks in. I've obviously a higher benchmark for my legends.

ONeill

Quote from: straightred on August 10, 2015, 01:28:10 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 10, 2015, 01:00:17 AM
He is a legend of the game and on a par with Canavan.

In your eyes maybe but not mine. Horse of a man inside his own half but once he crosses midfield the cheating kicks in. I've obviously a higher benchmark for my legends.

Were you alive in 2008?
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Ohtoohtobe

Sorry I've just started reading this and don't have time to look at 49 pages. This was probably posted somewhere but just in case it wasn't, here's Aidan O'Mahony in 2008:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHuU3EdJ1NQ

Not justifying either dive. Both disgusting and the opposite of what the game should be about. But I just don't remember the same outcry over O'Mahony. Is my memory malfunctioning, or is a Tyrone fringe player a softer target than a Kerry all-star?

Syferus

Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on August 10, 2015, 03:36:56 AM
Sorry I've just started reading this and don't have time to look at 49 pages. This was probably posted somewhere but just in case it wasn't, here's Aidan O'Mahony in 2008:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHuU3EdJ1NQ

Not justifying either dive. Both disgusting and the opposite of what the game should be about. But I just don't remember the same outcry over O'Mahony. Is my memory malfunctioning, or is a Tyrone fringe player a softer target than a Kerry all-star?

Someone already linked to the massive thread on it at the time when a Tyrone poster tried to peddle the same line you are yesterday.

omaghjoe

Well watched this discussed incident again a few times there

Despite the outrage of the supposed dive I'm still fairly convinced that McCann was pulled down by the hair, he also had his legs swept from under him on his way down.

I presume Hughes will be getting a lengthy ban for this and his body slam of Colm C.

I can attest to his innocence on Richie Donnelly tho. That was his brother, didnt look accidental either. How Ciaran Hughes stayed on the pitch is nothing short of a miracle, he was completely out of control throughout and the nonsense at the end could have been averted if he had got the black card he deserved instead of young Meyler

muppet

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 09, 2015, 11:25:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 09, 2015, 11:16:35 PM
I've just seen a clip on the Sunday Game of the Monaghan keeper going down like a bag of shite for nothing.

Exactly. Here's a link to it via twitter.
https://twitter.com/mickd85/status/630388222263185408?s=09

Yip, almost as pathetic as the other dive.
MWWSI 2017

Maguire01

Quote from: omaghjoe on August 10, 2015, 05:28:41 AM
Well watched this discussed incident again a few times there

Despite the outrage of the supposed dive I'm still fairly convinced that McCann was pulled down by the hair, he also had his legs swept from under him on his way down.


I presume Hughes will be getting a lengthy ban for this and his body slam of Colm C.

I can attest to his innocence on Richie Donnelly tho. That was his brother, didnt look accidental either. How Ciaran Hughes stayed on the pitch is nothing short of a miracle, he was completely out of control throughout and the nonsense at the end could have been averted if he had got the black card he deserved instead of young Meyler
It's amazing what you can see when you put your mind to it.

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: Syferus on August 10, 2015, 03:59:15 AM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on August 10, 2015, 03:36:56 AM
Sorry I've just started reading this and don't have time to look at 49 pages. This was probably posted somewhere but just in case it wasn't, here's Aidan O'Mahony in 2008:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHuU3EdJ1NQ

Not justifying either dive. Both disgusting and the opposite of what the game should be about. But I just don't remember the same outcry over O'Mahony. Is my memory malfunctioning, or is a Tyrone fringe player a softer target than a Kerry all-star?

Were Kerry dragged through the mud due to an action of one of their players? Was it claimed that it was systematic in that county and exemplary of how they behave?

Was it f**k and there's a litany of historic events that shows Kerry have absolutely no qualms about engaging in the dark arts when they want to, the media just decide to ignore this and add no attachement to it.
Someone already linked to the massive thread on it at the time when a Tyrone poster tried to peddle the same line you are yesterday.

lenny

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 07:46:20 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 10, 2015, 03:59:15 AM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on August 10, 2015, 03:36:56 AM
Sorry I've just started reading this and don't have time to look at 49 pages. This was probably posted somewhere but just in case it wasn't, here's Aidan O'Mahony in 2008:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHuU3EdJ1NQ

Not justifying either dive. Both disgusting and the opposite of what the game should be about. But I just don't remember the same outcry over O'Mahony. Is my memory malfunctioning, or is a Tyrone fringe player a softer target than a Kerry all-star?

Were Kerry dragged through the mud due to an action of one of their players? Was it claimed that it was systematic in that county and exemplary of how they behave?

Was it f**k and there's a litany of historic events that shows Kerry have absolutely no qualms about engaging in the dark arts when they want to, the media just decide to ignore this and add no attachement to it.
Someone already linked to the massive thread on it at the time when a Tyrone poster tried to peddle the same line you are yesterday.

The big difference is that every Kerry person I heard/read commenting on O'Mahoney condemned him and said they were ashamed of his actions. Every tyrone person justifies mccanns actions by saying we're not the only teamwho dive. Other counties have shame, tyrone don't seem to do shame no matter how low their players stoop. Mccann is only copying the actions of players he looked up a few years ago when he was a teenager. Tyrone people  who say there is an agenda against them should ask themselves why this is. From a personal point of view I always used to like tyrone. i had total respect for Eugene mckenna and Art mcrory and supported them in 86, 95 and 96. When harte took over tyrone turned into the most hateful team in the country with all players seemingly coached in the dark arts. If you look at the posters who contribute on here it seems that evey time tyrone play a new county they leave a mark and that becomes a new group of people who hate tyrone. Personally I don't hate them but I hate the way they play football under Harte.