Kerry V Cork 2pm Killarney

[Maroon Manc]

Dubious penalty!! Look at it again and you'll see JOD fouled Collins.

How exactly did JOD foul Collins

Footage here.

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/kerry-penalty-video/299735

Hughes was a fair distance from the action as Walsh had put in a very long ball after receiving a foot medium length forward foot pass.

Am I the only one who thinks Cadogan's was restricting Donaghy's jump - his other hand from the one Cadogan used to bat the ball away was pretty much on Donaghy's chest - I've given penalties for similar.

With the way Collins kinda of drags down JOD's body a bit, you can see why the mistake was made.

Collins went to catch the ball at that point look at where JOD's left arm is, he's pulling at the top half of Collins' arm causing Collins to drop the ball.

[twohands!!!]

Dubious penalty!! Look at it again and you'll see JOD fouled Collins.

How exactly did JOD foul Collins

Footage here.

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/kerry-penalty-video/299735

Hughes was a fair distance from the action as Walsh had put in a very long ball after receiving a foot medium length forward foot pass.

Am I the only one who thinks Cadogan's was restricting Donaghy's jump - his other hand from the one Cadogan used to bat the ball away was pretty much on Donaghy's chest - I've given penalties for similar.

With the way Collins kinda of drags down JOD's body a bit, you can see why the mistake was made.

Collins went to catch the ball at that point look at where JOD's left arm is, he's pulling at the top half of Collins' arm causing Collins to drop the ball.

I don't see any pulling on Collins arm - I see JOD has his hand on the ball. JOD does go down a bit easily with Collins's fairly impact into him- I wouldn't really class it as a dive - more as riding the challenge to the ground. Collins was very unlucky with his momentum - the fact that JOD had streaked away/opened up so much space from Loughrey (who I thought was utterly destroyed any time the ball came near the pair of them) really didn't help matters as it made it look very much like a situation where JOD had gotten free and the covering defender had dived in - normally in those sort of situations the defender is going to end up committing a foul.

Anyone any thought on Cadogan's challenge on Donaghy? I'm surprised more hasn't been made of it. Donaghy never stops mouthing but I do think that he falls into the category of being seen as a big man who can look after himself and defenders get a bit more leeway in terms of pulling and dragging him. It would be interesting to see how he has done in terms of being awarded penalties/frees over the course of his career.

[Maroon Manc]

Dubious penalty!! Look at it again and you'll see JOD fouled Collins.

How exactly did JOD foul Collins

Footage here.

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/kerry-penalty-video/299735

Hughes was a fair distance from the action as Walsh had put in a very long ball after receiving a foot medium length forward foot pass.

Am I the only one who thinks Cadogan's was restricting Donaghy's jump - his other hand from the one Cadogan used to bat the ball away was pretty much on Donaghy's chest - I've given penalties for similar.

With the way Collins kinda of drags down JOD's body a bit, you can see why the mistake was made.

Collins went to catch the ball at that point look at where JOD's left arm is, he's pulling at the top half of Collins' arm causing Collins to drop the ball.

I don't see any pulling on Collins arm - I see JOD has his hand on the ball. JOD does go down a bit easily with Collins's fairly impact into him- I wouldn't really class it as a dive - more as riding the challenge to the ground. Collins was very unlucky with his momentum - the fact that JOD had streaked away/opened up so much space from Loughrey (who I thought was utterly destroyed any time the ball came near the pair of them) really didn't help matters as it made it look very much like a situation where JOD had gotten free and the covering defender had dived in - normally in those sort of situations the defender is going to end up committing a foul.

Anyone any thought on Cadogan's challenge on Donaghy? I'm surprised more hasn't been made of it. Donaghy never stops mouthing but I do think that he falls into the category of being seen as a big man who can look after himself and defenders get a bit more leeway in terms of pulling and dragging him. It would be interesting to see how he has done in terms of being awarded penalties/frees over the course of his career.

Look at the movement of Collins' right arm, its not a natural movement. JOD has got his arm inside Collins' and tugs at it and then they both go to ground. Forwards have been getting away with that for years and still are.

[From the Bunker]

Have heard a lot of waffle about Donaghy and O'Donaghue being the oppressed. Both almost always get more than the benefit of the doubt on fouls and were greatly helped in this in winning an AI title last year. Both are consistently in the Referees ear, holding hands out and mouthing officials. It works for them and why would they change when it gets them closer to their goals.

[trileacman]

J'OD dived for that penalty. Arms out, appealing for a penalty he doesn't deserve is as bad as simulating a foul.

[dublin7]

Kerrigan I think it was tackled JOD in the corner in the 1st half and he went down holding his face like he'd been hit by Conor McGregor even though he was barely touched. Fair play to Brolly for pointing it out.

I played in defence all my career and if a ref gave a penalty decision like that against me I'd be going mad.  Have to fancy Kerry for the replay. More room for improvement than Cork. Kerry had the worst defensive record in the league and they were all over the place yesterday.For all the talk of their bench yesterday all the experience was in the midfielders/forwards. Didnt have quality defender to come on and OSe struggled with the pace of the game. Will probably cost them later on in the year

[StephenC]

Riding the challenge to the ground 

[twohands!!!]

Riding the challenge to the ground 

It's not quite a dive....

[JoG2]

The Dubs and the Tymoanies are obsessed with the Kingdom

[Sidney]

Anybody know what will happen as regards TV coverage of the Cork-Kerry replay?

As far as I know Sky have rights to two qualifiers being shown on July 18th which will be Fermanagh v Roscommon and Longford v Kildare.

Given that the Cork-Kerry replay is a 7pm start, you would think this means it's being lined up for live TV coverage. Sky, you would presume, will push to replace one of their scheduled live qualifier matches with live Cork-Kerry coverage.

However there appears to be a problem here on two fronts.

i) Sky do not appear to have rights to show a provincial final exclusively live.
ii) If RTE want to show the Cork-Kerry replay live, Sky will surely object given that their 7pm qualifier match would be upstaged by a far more attractive live match directly clashing with it on RTE.

Will the Cork-Kerry replay be shown live at all, one wonders? If Sky get the rights, there will be a Liveline furore over it given that every provincial final since 1998 has been shown live on free to air TV (the Clare-Waterford replay in 1998 was the last not to be shown live, from my memory). If it's not shown at all, there will be an even bigger Liveline furore.

Surely the obvious thing to do was to have it throw in at 2:30 or 3pm and have it live on RTE, thus avoiding a clash? Perhaps the match will be brought forward when this issue is considered?

A 7pm start in Killarney is also disastrous for anybody wanting to travel by train. Irish Rail, comically, is advertising "great value return fares" for this match, however the last train out of Killarney is 7:38pm.

[Throw ball]

If I am not mistaken the Fermanagh v Roscommon and Longford v Kildare matches are this weekend.

[omagh_gael]

The mid afternoon slot is unworkable as the killarney marathon is on that day according to newstalk this evening.

[Rossfan]

If I am not mistaken the Fermanagh v Roscommon and Longford v Kildare matches are this weekend.

Correct. 3B games on that weekend between the 4 winners of 2B.
Did Sky show last year's Connacht Final?? - 

[macdanger2]

Just watched the match there now - thought that the penalty looked like a penalty in real time but only because JOD pulled the defenders arm into him as he fell. Depending on where you're from, you can call it cuteness or cheating.

Thought the first possible black card incident (where cadogan was fouled) was a banker. Donaghy's one less so imo

Kerry look like they have more room for improvement.

[lenny]

Anybody know what will happen as regards TV coverage of the Cork-Kerry replay?

As far as I know Sky have rights to two qualifiers being shown on July 18th which will be Fermanagh v Roscommon and Longford v Kildare.

Given that the Cork-Kerry replay is a 7pm start, you would think this means it's being lined up for live TV coverage. Sky, you would presume, will push to replace one of their scheduled live qualifier matches with live Cork-Kerry coverage.

However there appears to be a problem here on two fronts.

i) Sky do not appear to have rights to show a provincial final exclusively live.
ii) If RTE want to show the Cork-Kerry replay live, Sky will surely object given that their 7pm qualifier match would be upstaged by a far more attractive live match directly clashing with it on RTE.

Will the Cork-Kerry replay be shown live at all, one wonders? If Sky get the rights, there will be a Liveline furore over it given that every provincial final since 1998 has been shown live on free to air TV (the Clare-Waterford replay in 1998 was the last not to be shown live, from my memory). If it's not shown at all, there will be an even bigger Liveline furore.

Surely the obvious thing to do was to have it throw in at 2:30 or 3pm and have it live on RTE, thus avoiding a clash? Perhaps the match will be brought forward when this issue is considered?

A 7pm start in Killarney is also disastrous for anybody wanting to travel by train. Irish Rail, comically, is advertising "great value return fares" for this match, however the last train out of Killarney is 7:38pm.

It'll probably be deferred coverage on RTE. Coverage will likely start around 9.