Armagh v Galway (Sat 11-07-15)

Started by illdecide, June 29, 2015, 04:42:15 PM

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tonto1888

Quote from: Fuzzman on July 12, 2015, 05:15:22 PM
Wow surprised by this result.
That only leaves Derry now as our most unwanted opponents in the next round.

Anyone at it or can give a brief summary.
Geezer seems to be going backwards as a manager.

Armagh were happy to concede possession up to their own 45 to the point they were running away from the Galway players who had the ball so they could get back to some imaginary line. Very strange tactics

tonto1888

Kernan and shields made a difference when they came on. I think they should have atarted

screenexile

Quote from: Manning18 on July 12, 2015, 05:34:16 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 12, 2015, 05:15:22 PM
Wow surprised by this result.
That only leaves Derry now as our most unwanted opponents in the next round.

Anyone at it or can give a brief summary.
Geezer seems to be going backwards as a manager.

Derry are the only ones you don't want? Galway would be favourites over Derry in any venue bar in Derry, where it'd be close to 50/50

On what basis do you say that??

skeog

kieran mc geeney will be disappointed dont think he will be adding to the roll of honour in armagh any time soon joe kernan may be back yet

Manning18

Quote from: screenexile on July 12, 2015, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on July 12, 2015, 05:34:16 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 12, 2015, 05:15:22 PM
Wow surprised by this result.
That only leaves Derry now as our most unwanted opponents in the next round.

Anyone at it or can give a brief summary.
Geezer seems to be going backwards as a manager.

Derry are the only ones you don't want? Galway would be favourites over Derry in any venue bar in Derry, where it'd be close to 50/50

On what basis do you say that??

On the basis that i'm able to price up games. It's not exactly difficult. Galway be around 11/10 or 6/5 in Derry, 4/6 or 8/13 at home. 1/2 home to tipp, 8/11 away. Evs home to Tyrone, 6/4 away. Feel free to pull me up on it if im way out

Throw ball

Congratulations to Galway. The team with the more effective tactics won. Armagh record now since new Athletics Grounds open is 11 wins and 11 losses with the rest draws as far as I can work out. They don't seem to ever get the run of the green against Galway as epitomised by a lucky enough goal today.

Galway have some nice players but still do not look convincing. Would not like to pick the winners in the next round.

Armagh have went back this year. The amount they rely on Dyas has been so obvious and missing him today and with Findon obviously not fit they were on the back foot from early on. I would also like Geexer to have a word with a couple of players to concentrate on playing rather than complaining to the referee. Forker is far 2 easy wound up and is constantly a red card in waiting. When he concentrates on football he is very good.

Last week Paudie Hughes got much abuse for giving a penalty. A number of years ago Benny Coulter said Hughes was one of the two best referees in the country. If today's referee is anything to go by he must be correct. I was too far away to give a judgement on the penalty appeal today but he was incredibly inconsistent. For example, he moved the ball up a few times for Armagh players protesting but when a Galway player kicked the ball away he refused to. The thing I hate most is that when Galway were resorting to black card tackles in the last few minutes he wouldn't let Armagh play on but insisted on getting the player booked. The black card became a benefit rather than a deterrent.

Would also say that we always profess to love at taking football. Until referees properly protect skillful players we are going nowhere. While frees are given for a light tug on a jersey Jamie Clarke can get kicked, slapped or pulled and because he usually tries to stay on his feet he rarely gets a free.

Finally, while I am still in bad form. In the week that was why was the Galway player who would not shake hands with his Armagh opponent before the game but instead hit him across the head with his forearm not booked?

reddgnhand

Quote from: AFS on July 12, 2015, 06:04:17 PM
Well, we got exactly what we deserved this year for the sort of football we played. The management has taken a team that were going places and castrated them. Gone is the energy and freshness of last summer, and in its place we have that tepid, rigid shit that is taking us nowhere and that no one seems to buy into. This retreat and set up a screen on your own 45 and allow the opposition come onto you strategy didn't work in a single game all year, yet we persisted with it right to the end. Time and again the opposition just ran through, over or around our screen. And that's when we weren't fouling them. Our players don't have the conditioning, nor the tackling ability, nor the discipline to pull off such a strategy. We need to go in a completely different direction next year, preferably back to something like 2014's football. If the management doesn't recognise that then they are not the people to take us forward.

Other than that today: the ref was shit; his umpires were lazy cnuts; and RIP the purity of Galway football - as cynical a team going with the full Tyronian repertoire of diving, feigning injury, and rugby tackles. Few more years perfecting those skills and they might even become a force again.

Tyrone to blame again. Well done Galway.

Manning18

Quote from: Throw ball on July 12, 2015, 06:02:59 PM
Congratulations to Galway. The team with the more effective tactics won. Armagh record now since new Athletics Grounds open is 11 wins and 11 losses with the rest draws as far as I can work out. They don't seem to ever get the run of the green against Galway as epitomised by a lucky enough goal today.

Galway have some nice players but still do not look convincing. Would not like to pick the winners in the next round.

Armagh have went back this year. The amount they rely on Dyas has been so obvious and missing him today and with Findon obviously not fit they were on the back foot from early on. I would also like Geexer to have a word with a couple of players to concentrate on playing rather than complaining to the referee. Forker is far 2 easy wound up and is constantly a red card in waiting. When he concentrates on football he is very good.

Last week Paudie Hughes got much abuse for giving a penalty. A number of years ago Benny Coulter said Hughes was one of the two best referees in the country. If today's referee is anything to go by he must be correct. I was too far away to give a judgement on the penalty appeal today but he was incredibly inconsistent. For example, he moved the ball up a few times for Armagh players protesting but when a Galway player kicked the ball away he refused to. The thing I hate most is that when Galway were resorting to black card tackles in the last few minutes he wouldn't let Armagh play on but insisted on getting the player booked. The black card became a benefit rather than a deterrent.

Would also say that we always profess to love at taking football. Until referees properly protect skillful players we are going nowhere. While frees are given for a light tug on a jersey Jamie Clarke can get kicked, slapped or pulled and because he usually tries to stay on his feet he rarely gets a free.

Finally, while I am still in bad form. In the week that was why was the Galway player who would not shake hands with his Armagh opponent before the game but instead hit him across the head with his forearm not booked?

Got plenty of the rub of the green in 01, when ye came close to daylight robbery. Thankfully class won through in the end that day. Galway were comfortable enough today and only became poor when they tried to close out the game, something they aren't adept or comfortable at yet. Neither team are any great shakes as yet. The line about Jamie Clarke is ironic considering the wild theatrical dive when he tried to win the penalty. I like Armagh but this sour grapes stuff is becoming tiresome after every time we beat ye in championship. As for the last paragraph, I didn't see that. i did however see a blatant punch to Tom Flynn's face near the end. Hopefully  tv camera's pick it up and the player in question gets a long ban

ONeill

I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Manning18

Quote from: AFS on July 12, 2015, 06:04:17 PM

Other than that today: the ref was shit; his umpires were lazy cnuts; and RIP the purity of Galway football - as cynical a team going with the full Tyronian repertoire of diving, feigning injury, and rugby tackles. Few more years perfecting those skills and they might even become a force again.

Absolute LOL worthy. Better more attacking team won, and yet again we hear the sour grapes when Galway beat Armagh in championship. Laughable talking about Tyrone, from the original puke football merchants in teh early 00s

Throw ball

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Quote from: Manning18 on July 12, 2015, 06:18:11 PM
Quote from: AFS on July 12, 2015, 06:04:17 PM

Other than that today: the ref was shit; his umpires were lazy cnuts; and RIP the purity of Galway football - as cynical a team going with the full Tyronian repertoire of diving, feigning injury, and rugby tackles. Few more years perfecting those skills and they might even become a force again.

Absolute LOL worthy. Better more attacking team won, and yet again we hear the sour grapes when Galway beat Armagh in championship. Laughable talking about Tyrone, from the original puke football merchants in teh early 00s

Galway were only just the better team and got a lucky enough goal. Armagh were very poor which helped them. But you may be a bit blinkered on Galway's tactics. It is also easy to say sour grapes when you are talking about the loser but if a point is right it is right.

If you want to see real defensive football then hope you draw Tyrone next day. Sure all their forwards left the panel!

Fuzzman

Tribesmen MARCH on down the road to Croker as Orangemen find their way blocked again in Spiritual capital

JP

Hard to know were to begin with that. Very anticlimatic end to season that began with alot of hope.

There wasn't a whole lot between the teams quality wise, but they got the crucial goal. We need a rethink of tactics, the retreating to the 45 yard line when you are 5/6 points down is incredibly frustrating. We are also way to slow on the attack passing horizontally giving defenses chances to set themselves up.  too many unforced errors and wrong decisions made to win the game.

One positive note is that I though Charlie Vernon was immense.

Good luck to Galway in the qualifiers, you are like ourselves, decent but not anything to write home about.

mackers

Quote from: Manning18 on July 12, 2015, 06:18:11 PM

Absolute LOL worthy.
The only LOL worthy post on this page was your comeback to Throwball saying that Armagh were NEARLY lucky in 01. Utter crap.
Armagh very poor, tactics were highly questionable. As AFS has said we played some great football last year, it wasn't there this year although the loss of Dyas was massive.
The kick outs were continually booted out to a MF that was being beaten all ends up. I thought James Morgan was the pick for Armagh. CV did rightly but made his customary error of running into a blind alley at one point. The substitutions worked well. The Galway goal came from a free that was moved up due to stupidity on Aaron Findons behalf,  frustrating. He's constantly at it along with Aidan Forker. Galway far from innocent also. Galway no 10 should have got red for dropping the knees on Jamie after the rugby tackle. That Lundy boy is a good player but is getting a reputation for diving and acting the ballix.
Keep your pecker hard and your powder dry and the world will turn.

GalwayBayBoy