Armagh v Galway (Sat 11-07-15)

[Manning18]

Other than that today: the ref was shit; his umpires were lazy cnuts; and RIP the purity of Galway football - as cynical a team going with the full Tyronian repertoire of diving, feigning injury, and rugby tackles. Few more years perfecting those skills and they might even become a force again.

Absolute LOL worthy. Better more attacking team won, and yet again we hear the sour grapes when Galway beat Armagh in championship. Laughable talking about Tyrone, from the original puke football merchants in teh early 00s

Where did I say Galway didn't deserve to win? In fact, I explicitly stated in the first sentence of my post that Armagh deserved nothing from the game. But the facts are that Galway did dive (Lundy at his old tricks); they did feign injury (goalie lying down for three minutes before getting up to play on without a bother on him); and they did rugby tackle (two black cards in the last five minutes). More power to them though, if that's the way they want to go.

I'll agree with the Sice rugby tackle. I'd be going mad if it happened against us, but he's exposing a loop hole in the rules. Should be changed to a straight red for that kinda thing. The rest is nonsense. Lundy has a poor centre of gravity, a bit like bambi on ice. He has dived in the past but didnt today. O'Donoghue got a serious belt and more to his credit that he got up and carried on when probably partly concussed than cynical timewasting. Look, if you have the game essentially won with 15 mins left (6 points up), there's always going to be stuff like that. Mayo had a masterclass in killing the game vs us the last day. If anything I thought we were poor and niave at it

[tonto1888]

Congratulations to Galway. The team with the more effective tactics won. Armagh record now since new Athletics Grounds open is 11 wins and 11 losses with the rest draws as far as I can work out. They don't seem to ever get the run of the green against Galway as epitomised by a lucky enough goal today.

Galway have some nice players but still do not look convincing. Would not like to pick the winners in the next round.

Armagh have went back this year. The amount they rely on Dyas has been so obvious and missing him today and with Findon obviously not fit they were on the back foot from early on. I would also like Geexer to have a word with a couple of players to concentrate on playing rather than complaining to the referee. Forker is far 2 easy wound up and is constantly a red card in waiting. When he concentrates on football he is very good.

Last week Paudie Hughes got much abuse for giving a penalty. A number of years ago Benny Coulter said Hughes was one of the two best referees in the country. If today's referee is anything to go by he must be correct. I was too far away to give a judgement on the penalty appeal today but he was incredibly inconsistent. For example, he moved the ball up a few times for Armagh players protesting but when a Galway player kicked the ball away he refused to. The thing I hate most is that when Galway were resorting to black card tackles in the last few minutes he wouldn't let Armagh play on but insisted on getting the player booked. The black card became a benefit rather than a deterrent.

Would also say that we always profess to love at taking football. Until referees properly protect skillful players we are going nowhere. While frees are given for a light tug on a jersey Jamie Clarke can get kicked, slapped or pulled and because he usually tries to stay on his feet he rarely gets a free.

Finally, while I am still in bad form. In the week that was why was the Galway player who would not shake hands with his Armagh opponent before the game but instead hit him across the head with his forearm not booked?

Got plenty of the rub of the green in 01, when ye came close to daylight robbery. Thankfully class won through in the end that day. Galway were comfortable enough today and only became poor when they tried to close out the game, something they aren't adept or comfortable at yet. Neither team are any great shakes as yet. The line about Jamie Clarke is ironic considering the wild theatrical dive when he tried to win the penalty. I like Armagh but this sour grapes stuff is becoming tiresome after every time we beat ye in championship. As for the last paragraph, I didn't see that. i did however see a blatant punch to Tom Flynn's face near the end. Hopefully  tv camera's pick it up and the player in question gets a long ban

Full of it. Jamie Clarke diving? Blatant punch to the face? Cop yourself on and enjoy your win. Probably the last one of this year

[Manning18]

Good man, I knew you'd come round to my way of thinking. The 'poor centre of gravity' line is a good one, must remember that for future use.

Im nowhere near your thinking. An Armagh fan complaining about Galway being negative and cynical. It's like a cavan man calling someone tight. @tonto : one more win than yer goodselves anyway. Same number as yer number of all irelands incidentally

[Throw ball]

Congratulations to Galway. The team with the more effective tactics won. Armagh record now since new Athletics Grounds open is 11 wins and 11 losses with the rest draws as far as I can work out. They don't seem to ever get the run of the green against Galway as epitomised by a lucky enough goal today.

Galway have some nice players but still do not look convincing. Would not like to pick the winners in the next round.

Armagh have went back this year. The amount they rely on Dyas has been so obvious and missing him today and with Findon obviously not fit they were on the back foot from early on. I would also like Geexer to have a word with a couple of players to concentrate on playing rather than complaining to the referee. Forker is far 2 easy wound up and is constantly a red card in waiting. When he concentrates on football he is very good.

Last week Paudie Hughes got much abuse for giving a penalty. A number of years ago Benny Coulter said Hughes was one of the two best referees in the country. If today's referee is anything to go by he must be correct. I was too far away to give a judgement on the penalty appeal today but he was incredibly inconsistent. For example, he moved the ball up a few times for Armagh players protesting but when a Galway player kicked the ball away he refused to. The thing I hate most is that when Galway were resorting to black card tackles in the last few minutes he wouldn't let Armagh play on but insisted on getting the player booked. The black card became a benefit rather than a deterrent.

Would also say that we always profess to love at taking football. Until referees properly protect skillful players we are going nowhere. While frees are given for a light tug on a jersey Jamie Clarke can get kicked, slapped or pulled and because he usually tries to stay on his feet he rarely gets a free.

Finally, while I am still in bad form. In the week that was why was the Galway player who would not shake hands with his Armagh opponent before the game but instead hit him across the head with his forearm not booked?

Got plenty of the rub of the green in 01, when ye came close to daylight robbery. Thankfully class won through in the end that day. Galway were comfortable enough today and only became poor when they tried to close out the game, something they aren't adept or comfortable at yet. Neither team are any great shakes as yet. The line about Jamie Clarke is ironic considering the wild theatrical dive when he tried to win the penalty. I like Armagh but this sour grapes stuff is becoming tiresome after every time we beat ye in championship. As for the last paragraph, I didn't see that. i did however see a blatant punch to Tom Flynn's face near the end. Hopefully  tv camera's pick it up and the player in question gets a long ban

Full of it. Jamie Clarke diving? Blatant punch to the face? Cop yourself on and enjoy your win. Probably the last one of this year

I will let him off with the punch in the face - although I thought it was more a push myself. I will not name the Armagh player but most Armagh supporters will guess who it was. To be fair to the Armagh player the Galway 7 stamped on him and they had a bit to a face up. When the Armagh player then run off another Galway player gave him a bit of a dunt and he lashed out. The reason I saw this is because I saw the first incident and was watching the Armagh player as his fuse was running short.

As for Clarke diving. Every Armagh supporter will tell you he is too honest in today's game.

[Throw ball]

Good man, I knew you'd come round to my way of thinking. The 'poor centre of gravity' line is a good one, must remember that for future use.

Im nowhere near your thinking. An Armagh fan complaining about Galway being negative and cynical. It's like a cavan man calling someone tight. @tonto : one more win than yer goodselves anyway. Same number as yer number of all irelands incidentally

There are non so blind as those that cannot see.

If Armagh, Tyrone or Derry used Galway's tactics today there would be phone ins about it.

[Throw ball]

Absolute LOL worthy.

The only LOL worthy post on this page was your comeback to Throwball saying that Armagh were NEARLY lucky in 01. Utter crap.
Armagh very poor, tactics were highly questionable. As AFS has said we played some great football last year, it wasn't there this year although the loss of Dyas was massive.
The kick outs were continually booted out to a MF that was being beaten all ends up. I thought James Morgan was the pick for Armagh. CV did rightly but made his customary error of running into a blind alley at one point. The substitutions worked well. The Galway goal came from a free that was moved up due to stupidity on Aaron Findons behalf,  frustrating. He's constantly at it along with Aidan Forker. Galway far from innocent also. Galway no 10 should have got red for dropping the knees on Jamie after the rugby tackle. That Lundy boy is a good player but is getting a reputation for diving and acting the ballix.

Think it was Ethan Rafferty that got free moved up.

[Wildweasel74]

Lundy diving, you not remember him from the club final, playacting at its worst

[Manning18]

Congratulations to Galway. The team with the more effective tactics won. Armagh record now since new Athletics Grounds open is 11 wins and 11 losses with the rest draws as far as I can work out. They don't seem to ever get the run of the green against Galway as epitomised by a lucky enough goal today.

Galway have some nice players but still do not look convincing. Would not like to pick the winners in the next round.

Armagh have went back this year. The amount they rely on Dyas has been so obvious and missing him today and with Findon obviously not fit they were on the back foot from early on. I would also like Geexer to have a word with a couple of players to concentrate on playing rather than complaining to the referee. Forker is far 2 easy wound up and is constantly a red card in waiting. When he concentrates on football he is very good.

Last week Paudie Hughes got much abuse for giving a penalty. A number of years ago Benny Coulter said Hughes was one of the two best referees in the country. If today's referee is anything to go by he must be correct. I was too far away to give a judgement on the penalty appeal today but he was incredibly inconsistent. For example, he moved the ball up a few times for Armagh players protesting but when a Galway player kicked the ball away he refused to. The thing I hate most is that when Galway were resorting to black card tackles in the last few minutes he wouldn't let Armagh play on but insisted on getting the player booked. The black card became a benefit rather than a deterrent.

Would also say that we always profess to love at taking football. Until referees properly protect skillful players we are going nowhere. While frees are given for a light tug on a jersey Jamie Clarke can get kicked, slapped or pulled and because he usually tries to stay on his feet he rarely gets a free.

Finally, while I am still in bad form. In the week that was why was the Galway player who would not shake hands with his Armagh opponent before the game but instead hit him across the head with his forearm not booked?

Got plenty of the rub of the green in 01, when ye came close to daylight robbery. Thankfully class won through in the end that day. Galway were comfortable enough today and only became poor when they tried to close out the game, something they aren't adept or comfortable at yet. Neither team are any great shakes as yet. The line about Jamie Clarke is ironic considering the wild theatrical dive when he tried to win the penalty. I like Armagh but this sour grapes stuff is becoming tiresome after every time we beat ye in championship. As for the last paragraph, I didn't see that. i did however see a blatant punch to Tom Flynn's face near the end. Hopefully  tv camera's pick it up and the player in question gets a long ban

Full of it. Jamie Clarke diving? Blatant punch to the face? Cop yourself on and enjoy your win. Probably the last one of this year

I will let him off with the punch in the face - although I thought it was more a push myself. I will not name the Armagh player but most Armagh supporters will guess who it was. To be fair to the Armagh player the Galway 7 stamped on him and they had a bit to a face up. When the Armagh player then run off another Galway player gave him a bit of a dunt and he lashed out. The reason I saw this is because I saw the first incident and was watching the Armagh player as his fuse was running short.

As for Clarke diving. Every Armagh supporter will tell you he is too honest in today's game.

I thought the penalty incident was theatrical. There was one free I def think he shouldve gotten but didnt in fairness to him

[tonto1888]

Absolute LOL worthy.

The only LOL worthy post on this page was your comeback to Throwball saying that Armagh were NEARLY lucky in 01. Utter crap.
Armagh very poor, tactics were highly questionable. As AFS has said we played some great football last year, it wasn't there this year although the loss of Dyas was massive.
The kick outs were continually booted out to a MF that was being beaten all ends up. I thought James Morgan was the pick for Armagh. CV did rightly but made his customary error of running into a blind alley at one point. The substitutions worked well. The Galway goal came from a free that was moved up due to stupidity on Aaron Findons behalf,  frustrating. He's constantly at it along with Aidan Forker. Galway far from innocent also. Galway no 10 should have got red for dropping the knees on Jamie after the rugby tackle. That Lundy boy is a good player but is getting a reputation for diving and acting the ballix.

Think it was Ethan Rafferty that got free moved up.

The one for the goal? Was definitely findon

[tonto1888]

Good man, I knew you'd come round to my way of thinking. The 'poor centre of gravity' line is a good one, must remember that for future use.

Im nowhere near your thinking. An Armagh fan complaining about Galway being negative and cynical. It's like a cavan man calling someone tight. @tonto : one more win than yer goodselves anyway. Same number as yer number of all irelands incidentally

I was being genuine. Not having a go. I wish you luck, as I did to a few Galway boys leaving the ground today, but I don't see you beating Tyrone or Derry. Maybe if you get tipp you will win another one but not knowing much about them I couldn't say for certain

[tonto1888]

Congratulations to Galway. The team with the more effective tactics won. Armagh record now since new Athletics Grounds open is 11 wins and 11 losses with the rest draws as far as I can work out. They don't seem to ever get the run of the green against Galway as epitomised by a lucky enough goal today.

Galway have some nice players but still do not look convincing. Would not like to pick the winners in the next round.

Armagh have went back this year. The amount they rely on Dyas has been so obvious and missing him today and with Findon obviously not fit they were on the back foot from early on. I would also like Geexer to have a word with a couple of players to concentrate on playing rather than complaining to the referee. Forker is far 2 easy wound up and is constantly a red card in waiting. When he concentrates on football he is very good.

Last week Paudie Hughes got much abuse for giving a penalty. A number of years ago Benny Coulter said Hughes was one of the two best referees in the country. If today's referee is anything to go by he must be correct. I was too far away to give a judgement on the penalty appeal today but he was incredibly inconsistent. For example, he moved the ball up a few times for Armagh players protesting but when a Galway player kicked the ball away he refused to. The thing I hate most is that when Galway were resorting to black card tackles in the last few minutes he wouldn't let Armagh play on but insisted on getting the player booked. The black card became a benefit rather than a deterrent.

Would also say that we always profess to love at taking football. Until referees properly protect skillful players we are going nowhere. While frees are given for a light tug on a jersey Jamie Clarke can get kicked, slapped or pulled and because he usually tries to stay on his feet he rarely gets a free.

Finally, while I am still in bad form. In the week that was why was the Galway player who would not shake hands with his Armagh opponent before the game but instead hit him across the head with his forearm not booked?

Got plenty of the rub of the green in 01, when ye came close to daylight robbery. Thankfully class won through in the end that day. Galway were comfortable enough today and only became poor when they tried to close out the game, something they aren't adept or comfortable at yet. Neither team are any great shakes as yet. The line about Jamie Clarke is ironic considering the wild theatrical dive when he tried to win the penalty. I like Armagh but this sour grapes stuff is becoming tiresome after every time we beat ye in championship. As for the last paragraph, I didn't see that. i did however see a blatant punch to Tom Flynn's face near the end. Hopefully  tv camera's pick it up and the player in question gets a long ban

Full of it. Jamie Clarke diving? Blatant punch to the face? Cop yourself on and enjoy your win. Probably the last one of this year

I will let him off with the punch in the face - although I thought it was more a push myself. I will not name the Armagh player but most Armagh supporters will guess who it was. To be fair to the Armagh player the Galway 7 stamped on him and they had a bit to a face up. When the Armagh player then run off another Galway player gave him a bit of a dunt and he lashed out. The reason I saw this is because I saw the first incident and was watching the Armagh player as his fuse was running short.

As for Clarke diving. Every Armagh supporter will tell you he is too honest in today's game.

If we are thinking of the same incident them a push is what it was at most. I do think Clarke does not get anywhere near as many frees as he should het

[GalwayBayBoy]

Good man, I knew you'd come round to my way of thinking. The 'poor centre of gravity' line is a good one, must remember that for future use.

Im nowhere near your thinking. An Armagh fan complaining about Galway being negative and cynical. It's like a cavan man calling someone tight. @tonto : one more win than yer goodselves anyway. Same number as yer number of all irelands incidentally

I was being genuine. Not having a go. I wish you luck, as I did to a few Galway boys leaving the ground today, but I don't see you beating Tyrone or Derry. Maybe if you get tipp you will win another one but not knowing much about them I couldn't say for certain

Sure Galway always beat Derry. Everyone knows that. 

Well I'm being slightly facetious but I don't think there's anyone in the draw that Galway would be scared of. And I'd say the same from the other teams perspective as well.

[tonto1888]

Good man, I knew you'd come round to my way of thinking. The 'poor centre of gravity' line is a good one, must remember that for future use.

Im nowhere near your thinking. An Armagh fan complaining about Galway being negative and cynical. It's like a cavan man calling someone tight. @tonto : one more win than yer goodselves anyway. Same number as yer number of all irelands incidentally

I was being genuine. Not having a go. I wish you luck, as I did to a few Galway boys leaving the ground today, but I don't see you beating Tyrone or Derry. Maybe if you get tipp you will win another one but not knowing much about them I couldn't say for certain

Sure Galway always beat Derry. Everyone knows that. 

Well I'm being slightly facetious but I don't think there's anyone in the draw that Galway would be scared of. And I'd say the same from the other teams perspective as well.

I quite like Galway, always have. I'd rather you got through than either Derry or Tyrone I just think they'd have too much for you. That said, you're probably right in what you say

[An Fhairche Abu]

Galway are no great shakes but honestly Armagh need to look at themselves as to the result today, I thought ye were woeful altogether, a patently inferior team to Galway on the day, only reason there wasn't a greater margin was that we totally went out of the game ourselves with poor shots at goal and a large number of errors in the last 20 minutes, not many of which were due to anything good from Armagh to cause it either.

Tactically McGeeney had Armagh setup the exact same way at 1 point down and 7 points down, mental stuff, Armagh looked a way better team last year.

Gough had little control of the game, loads of off the ball stuff on both sides, for me it was a red for the incident on Tom Flynn. Will have to see the peno incident on the Sunday Game, I've seen them given though. 

[tyroneman]

Good man, I knew you'd come round to my way of thinking. The 'poor centre of gravity' line is a good one, must remember that for future use.

Im nowhere near your thinking. An Armagh fan complaining about Galway being negative and cynical. It's like a cavan man calling someone tight. @tonto : one more win than yer goodselves anyway. Same number as yer number of all irelands incidentally

There are non so blind as those that cannot see.

If Armagh, Tyrone or Derry used Galway's tactics today there would be phone ins about it.

I don't want to bang on about this much more because it detracts the most concerning issue of the day (Armagh's utter shiteness), but this is exactly why I tried to highlight some of Galway's shenanigans today. Tyrone got roasted in the aftermath of the U21 final for behaviour that wasn't much worse than the norm these days. Yet certain other sides can get up to as bad and worse without a mention, presumably because bringing it up doesn't fit too well with neat narrative propagated by lazier elements of the media since Spillane started oozing about puke football. An excellent example of this phenomenon exists in the RTE online match report of this game. This is how the two injury time rugby tackles were reported:

'but Galway defended with determination, at the cost of black card dismissals for Sice and Sweeney, and they held out to progress.'

Armagh, Tyrone, Donegal, etc. = cynical
Galway, Kerry, Dublin, etc. = determined

An excellent point. I'm 100% sure an aul dirty Ulster team would be hauled over the coals for that 'determination'